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lydever91

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Do you normally make unwarranted assumptions about others, or did you just make a special exception in this case?
Your just not a thinker are you? I made a special exception due to the fact that I suppose the best way to put it is that the intelligence level isn't there for you to of have realized mine was a reply to the original unwarranted assumption that you made previously to my response. But hey that's just facts and logic talk, in your mind you probably don't see it that way. I would tell you to go away but I can tell you have no desire to and nothing better to do kill threads, disrupt progress, and try to muddy up the truth. you and dcon should start your own thread.
 
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Oh Boy You are a twister of words and a false accuser.
#1 you came in here off topic arguing with the other inspired ones, just because of non-related remark about about Joesphus that had nothing to do with what we were talking about.
#2Show me where I blessed and cursed anyone, you can't. So you have to twist the scripture to say that if I respectfully decline to discuss a topic thats not in the Bible means I cursed them.
I'm starting to think there are demons working through you. You didn't come to this thread to defend 70 Ad, you could of started your own thread about it, you came to participate in chaotic communication. This is not your first post, you've been here for years! You've been arguing with that guy without any real dialogue for years! Are you kidding me? Just go away!
Then you come back and act like my thread was to argue, LoL
Get thee behind me satan
Go back and read page one and then pay attention to my first post to you....and you must be dense if you think I was defending 70 A.D.......I suggest you slow down and read each post before you bloviate......serious!
 

lydever91

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Go back and read page one and then pay attention to my first post to you....and you must be dense if you think I was defending 70 A.D.......I suggest you slow down and read each post before you bloviate......serious!
Don't care what you were rambling on about, start your own thread.
 

Hevosmies

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And from the posts of yours that I have to skip past to get to ones with a clue, reveals it's a basic daily miracle you are able to tie your own shoe laces..
Be glad God blessed you with the internet and living on another continent so you dont gotta be running ya mouth to my face boy. You can do it conveniently from across the globe!

I do in fact tie my own shoe laces believe it or not. But I only do it ONCE per pair of shoes, I tie them in a way that I can just put em on without needing to tie them each time
 

Angela53510

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Oh Boy You are a twister of words and a false accuser.
#1 you came in here off topic arguing with the other inspired ones, just because of non-related remark about about Joesphus that had nothing to do with what we were talking about.
#2Show me where I blessed and cursed anyone, you can't. So you have to twist the scripture to say that if I respectfully decline to discuss a topic thats not in the Bible means I cursed them.
I'm starting to think there are demons working through you. You didn't come to this thread to defend 70 Ad, you could of started your own thread about it, you came to participate in chaotic communication. This is not your first post, you've been here for years! You've been arguing with that guy without any real dialogue for years! Are you kidding me? Just go away!
Then you come back and act like my thread was to argue, LoL
Get thee behind me satan
You really should get to know people, before you start ranting and attacking long term members, who have built a reputation by being Biblical, kind, caring, but also use their God-given talents to help people.

Dino is one of those people!

By the way, you have been so busy being angry at Dino for no apparent reason, that you forgot to admit you were wrong with the nonsense about inspired numbers, devised during the 3rd century. Do you even have a clue what the Council of Nivea was about? It was to stop the spread of Arianism. It was about Christology. Nothing to do with inspiration of numerology at all. Just google it, or pick up a book on Christian history.

Still waiting you retraction of that garbage, to say nothing of numerology to prove God's Word? God doesn't need your whacked out, unscriptural, unhistorical made up lies to defend the Bible, by the way.

I have some background in math, but we also have a math professor who lives and understands math. Perhaps he can untangle your wrong notions about biblical numerology,
 

lydever91

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Naaaaa...I will just keep posting in this one..........so......how long till the end......?
I could tell a quite fascinating math equation but why? If you think I can make things like 666 X 216.216216216..... equaling 144,000 and the last mention of the Sea of Galilee being Joshua 13:27 in the OT, if you think I could make those things up then I don't think you have enough sense to take heed. Even though I would te tell you straight forward I am not date setting and you can make what you want of the numbers, you would still accuse me of false prophecy."


. You'll probably say "blah blah blah no man knows the day nor hour".
I'll say "but we can know the season and it doesn't say anything about not knowing the year and if you want to get real technical Jesus never says or implies that at some point it will be revealed by the Father through Jesus.
You'll say"blah blah blah I speak for God and you are wrong".
and your whole argument will be based on something along those lines and you will never able to actually look at how impossible it would to make those equations up and discuss it in a productive way.

I think a subscribers only video should be made to properly present a topic that should be taken so seriously. Feels a little like casting it before swine if I were to answer you right away.
 

lydever91

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You really should get to know people, before you start ranting and attacking long term members, who have built a reputation by being Biblical, kind, caring, but also use their God-given talents to help people.

Dino is one of those people!

By the way, you have been so busy being angry at Dino for no apparent reason, that you forgot to admit you were wrong with the nonsense about inspired numbers, devised during the 3rd century. Do you even have a clue what the Council of Nivea was about? It was to stop the spread of Arianism. It was about Christology. Nothing to do with inspiration of numerology at all. Just google it, or pick up a book on Christian history.

Still waiting you retraction of that garbage, to say nothing of numerology to prove God's Word? God doesn't need your whacked out, unscriptural, unhistorical made up lies to defend the Bible, by the way.

I have some background in math, but we also have a math professor who lives and understands math. Perhaps he can untangle your wrong notions about biblical numerology,
No thanks LoL and No thanks LoL
 
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I could tell a quite fascinating math equation but why? If you think I can make things like 666 X 216.216216216..... equaling 144,000 and the last mention of the Sea of Galilee being Joshua 13:27 in the OT, if you think I could make those things up then I don't think you have enough sense to take heed. Even though I would te tell you straight forward I am not date setting and you can make what you want of the numbers, you would still accuse me of false prophecy."


. You'll probably say "blah blah blah no man knows the day nor hour".
I'll say "but we can know the season and it doesn't anything about not knowing the year and if you want to get real technical Jesus never says or implies that at some point it will be revealed by the Father through Jesus.
You'll say"blah blah blah I speak for God and you are wrong".
and your whole argument will be based on something along those lines and you will never able to actually look at how impossible it would to make those equations up and discuss it in a productive way.

I think a subscribers only video should be made to properly present a topic that should be taken so seriously. Feels a little like casting it before swine if I were to answer you right away.
Can I say in all honesty.......My first post,which you red x'ed, was in support and at the same time in opposition to those which try and say the end came and went in 70 A.D........many of them QUOTE from Josephus.....so.....You began to rail and accuse me and that is exactly why I poured some heat on you......

NOW....if you think can biblical engage me without mouthing we can easily discuss the word........I personally believe we are very close to the end of the age.....I do not buy that there is a 7 year period left....I personally believe that Daniel tells us that there is exactly 1335 days left when it kicks off.....I believe the first 1185 days of the 70th week (7 year period) was fulfilled during the ministry of JESUS....

What is your view?
 

Angela53510

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No thanks LoL and No thanks LoL
God does not like those who are unwilling to admit there errors, especially one as egarious as you made. He also likes humble people, rather than people with unbiblical notions, who present them like the truth and that they know everything, and are full of pride.

But not to worry, I promise to point out the errors of your ways in a lot more places. Keep up the utter nonsense, it's like a fun puzzle for me to debunk!
 

lydever91

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Can I say in all honesty.......My first post,which you red x'ed, was in support and at the same time in opposition to those which try and say the end came and went in 70 A.D........many of them QUOTE from Josephus.....so.....You began to rail and accuse me and that is exactly why I poured some heat on you......

NOW....if you think can biblical engage me without mouthing we can easily discuss the word........I personally believe we are very close to the end of the age.....I do not buy that there is a 7 year period left....I personally believe that Daniel tells us that there is exactly 1335 da+ys left when it kicks off.....I believe the first 1185 days of the 70th week (7 year period) was fulfilled during the ministry of JESUS....

What is your view?
Oh I can easily engage without mouthing and I can easily put things in order to Tell the truth when I need to, I have no problem with that. I have no idea what you envision what this "kick-off" looks like. I'll say I believe you are wrong no matter what you believe because you are looking at it wrong and you have locked yourself into numbers by thinking you have it figured out. Again I have no idea what in your mind what event officially starts the tribulation? Could there be a false start? The seven trumpets don't get blown until the seventh seal is open. So tell me how do you know if the tribulation has officially started? I think me and you probably have a very different idea about what the tribulation is. I think you are, like most people, are looking at it backwards. Lets say the very end, Jesus' return was to take place in 2029. Most people base their numbers on the beginning of the Trib instead of the ending point. So for the sake of argument, God the Father chose 2029.
If that was the correct year then according to your understanding it would start in 2025 and if it were a 7 year, then it would start in 2022. See that's the inherent problem, basing the end of the tribulation off of the beggining instead basing it off the end to find the beginning. If God did chose 2029 do you think 2022 is just going to be a normal year? What happens between 2022 and 2025 could affect whether a person even makes it to the final 1335 days? Right, can you tell me what defining moment starts the trib? We should start there to be on the same page.
 

lydever91

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God does not like those who are unwilling to admit there errors, especially one as egarious as you made. He also likes humble people, rather than people with unbiblical notions, who present them like the truth and that they know everything, and are full of pride.

But not to worry, I promise to point out the errors of your ways in a lot more places. Keep up the utter nonsense, it's like a fun puzzle for me to debunk!
Great, it will be like the muslim that sets forth to prove the Bible wrong and then gets converted. Theres no errors in the math. Lol
 

Dino246

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Your just not a thinker are you? I made a special exception due to the fact that I suppose the best way to put it is that the intelligence level isn't there for you to of have realized mine was a reply to the original unwarranted assumption that you made previously to my response. But hey that's just facts and logic talk, in your mind you probably don't see it that way. I would tell you to go away but I can tell you have no desire to and nothing better to do kill threads, disrupt progress, and try to muddy up the truth. you and dcon should start your own thread.
I'm chuckling as I read this... I can see several grammatical errors in your post. They undermine your point quite thoroughly.

You seem to need a friendly suggestion as well: just discuss; don't insult. You can ignore it if that's your preference, but it only reflects on you. You'll be banned soon enough if you can't be civil.
 

lydever91

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I'm chuckling as I read this... I can see several grammatical errors in your post. They undermine your point quite thoroughly.

You seem to need a friendly suggestion as well: just discuss; don't insult. You can ignore it if that's your preference, but it only reflects on you. You'll be banned soon enough if you can't be civil.
I made a special exception for you with the grammatical errors, now find something better to do.
 
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obedienttogod

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No, you are completely wrong! Where do you get this nonsense from? The chapters and verses were added in the 13th and 15th centuries respectively.

Chapters:
"Archbishop Stephen Langton and Cardinal Hugo de Sancto Caro developed different schemas for systematic division of the Bible in the early 13th century. It is the system of Archbishop Langton on which the modern chapter divisions are based."

Verses:
"Robert Estienne created an alternate numbering in his 1551 edition of the Greek New Testament[17] which was also used in his 1553 publication of the Bible in French. Estienne's system of division was widely adopted, and it is this system which is found in almost all modern Bibles. Estienne produced a 1555 Vulgate that is the first Bible to include the verse numbers integrated into the text. Before this work, they were printed in the margins.[16]

The first English New Testament to use the verse divisions was a 1557 translation by William Whittingham (c. 1524–1579). The first Bible in English to use both chapters and verses was the Geneva Bible published shortly afterwards in 1560. These verse divisions soon gained acceptance as a standard way to notate verses, and have since been used in nearly all English Bibles and the vast majority of those in other languages."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapters_and_verses_of_the_Bible

If you can't get simple things like this right, how are we supposed to believe anything you write?


I was wrong and did not research like I should have!!
 
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obedienttogod

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It's quite inconsistent that you believe in the inspiration of verse and chapter numbering, but reject the accepted canon of Scripture.


I only reject it based on the fact that Paul did not write the Book of Hebrews, not that whoever wrote it in the 3rd century was not inspired. But until there is a definitive author, and we can examine the life of that author, there is no reason to accept someone's personal outline of the Bible as actually inspired. Granted it is eloquently written (unlike Paul's writings or anything else we have actually read within the Bible), but eloquence and inspired are far from being defined as the same.
 
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obedienttogod

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Be glad God blessed you with the internet and living on another continent so you dont gotta be running ya mouth to my face boy. You can do it conveniently from across the globe!

I do in fact tie my own shoe laces believe it or not. But I only do it ONCE per pair of shoes, I tie them in a way that I can just put em on without needing to tie them each time

First off, this site is for those who believe in God, and based upon that alone, I apologize!!

Secondly, I don't care how bad you think you are, and the internet has nothing to do with how I commented towards you. And to believe God blessed me to be from a different continent like it gives you some advantage, is as asinine as it gets. I can already discern that your training wasn't government subsidized at all :)

And smart move on the shoe laces!!
 
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obedienttogod

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No, you are completely wrong! Where do you get this nonsense from? The chapters and verses were added in the 13th and 15th centuries respectively.

Chapters:
"Archbishop Stephen Langton and Cardinal Hugo de Sancto Caro developed different schemas for systematic division of the Bible in the early 13th century. It is the system of Archbishop Langton on which the modern chapter divisions are based."

Verses:
"Robert Estienne created an alternate numbering in his 1551 edition of the Greek New Testament[17] which was also used in his 1553 publication of the Bible in French. Estienne's system of division was widely adopted, and it is this system which is found in almost all modern Bibles. Estienne produced a 1555 Vulgate that is the first Bible to include the verse numbers integrated into the text. Before this work, they were printed in the margins.[16]

The first English New Testament to use the verse divisions was a 1557 translation by William Whittingham (c. 1524–1579). The first Bible in English to use both chapters and verses was the Geneva Bible published shortly afterwards in 1560. These verse divisions soon gained acceptance as a standard way to notate verses, and have since been used in nearly all English Bibles and the vast majority of those in other languages."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapters_and_verses_of_the_Bible

If you can't get simple things like this right, how are we supposed to believe anything you write?


I simply did not research, and was wrong by giving any answer towards who applied the numerics to the chapters and verses.

But I do not believe it takes anything away from how you can times chapter number by verse number and research based upon the answer. And the reason I believe as such, is because each time the person from the video cross examined what he discovered, the meaning of what was discovered, did in fact relate to the original verse to begin with.
 

Hevosmies

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I can already discern that your training wasn't government subsidized at all :)
Im not American, we dont do private education here. In other countries public education isnt a bad thing, its only in america that its frowned upon because the requirements are so low to pass, but even that is better than no education at all!

And another insult. You arent living up to your nickname here too well, always insulting people, ive seen you insult a bunch of people on here.

Maybe come back with a different name or quit taking jabs at people through the internet?