Endtime Warning

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7seasrekeyed

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#41
I don't know about wars of the Jews but I keep running into wars of the posters here :whistle:
 

Hevosmies

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#42
I don't know about wars of the Jews but I keep running into wars of the posters here :whistle:
Its a war no doubt. I just wish I could PURGE the Ad70 babble from eschatology circles, in fact I feel like we are past the rapture-mania now, and preterism is becoming the new pop-prophecy thing. WE ALL KNOW what happened in AD70, the temple was destroyed, the city was dumpstered, YES we get it.
Unfortunately: Doesn't match Matthew 24 END TIMES description since Jesus did NOT return. Does not match WORST TIME EVER description given by Jesus. (Unless those days be shortened NO FLESH would survive) <- WASNT EVEN CLOSE in 70AD
 

JaumeJ

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#43
Some of the clowns are genuinely contributing from the heart. All of us, I for one, do err and need the input of others on what we post, even if it is Josephus whom I do not read nor recommend but in a forum there is a strong tendency to respond to the last post, even if it is off OP.

Longsuffering and/ or patience is needed much of the time, so pray I exercise what I say here also. All blessings in Jesus, Yeshua, amen.
 

lydever91

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#44
Some of the clowns are genuinely contributing from the heart. All of us, I for one, do err and need the input of others on what we post, even if it is Josephus whom I do not read nor recommend but in a forum there is a strong tendency to respond to the last post, even if it is off OP.

Longsuffering and/ or patience is needed much of the time, so pray I exercise what I say here also. All blessings in Jesus, Yeshua, amen.
Yeah contributing from the heart is a bad idea, wicked above all things who can know it. Justifying the behavior greases the slippery slope, I see a ton of nonsense, sorry, blessings
 

JaumeJ

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Yeah contributing from the heart is a bad idea, wicked above all things who can know it. Justifying the behavior greases the slippery slope, I see a ton of nonsense, sorry, blessings

Oh boy, are you thinkingin terms of all things beautiful?

The hearts to which I concern are in Jesus Christ, Yeshua...…...all should now this is inclusive in the meaning of the post. But…..you are absolutely right about the wicked hearts of man….God bless you..l

Ignore the nonsense, it is never good for anyone...
 

Angela53510

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#46
So it is NOT a warning but an encouragement to "keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ".
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I may disagree with you on some aspects of eschatology, but you have hit the nail on the head with this.

My only question is, "Why don't more people understand that the return of Jesus is not something to be warned about, but a time when believers be afraid, but will rejoice to see him, face to face. (I guess non-believers need to be warned?!)

"Dear friends, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet been revealed. We know that whenever it is revealed we will be like him, because we will see him just as he is." 1 John 3:2

" For now we see in a mirror indirectly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know in part, but then I will know fully, just as I have been fully known." 1 Cor. 13:12
 

Angela53510

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#47
I take it you've never read His story, it's called the Bible.

I take it you watch crazy internet dispensationalist madmen on the internet a lot.

Try reading the Bible, on your own, without these ridiculous videos, which are all out of context and twisting verses.

Josephus was the historian for the Romans and Jews of the first century. Of course he often write to please his Roman masters. But he is also a recorder of events in the first century. I would read and learn much from Josephus, anytime over uneducated, hysterical end times preachers like your OP!
 
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obedienttogod

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Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Find out why! :unsure:


I ALREADY REPLIED TO YOUR OTHER THREAD CONCERNING THIS EXACT VIDEO... SO I AM COPYING/PASTING MY POST ALSO ONTO THIS THREAD:


My specialized job deals with mathematical formations from calculus, trigonometry, geometry, scientific, and the various formulas. But this type of mathematics, to which this person in the video is doing by multiplying the chapter to verse, and then taking the answer and searching the entire Bible for like matches. And when a match of the exact number is found, especially in every example I saw from BOTH VIDEOS, it all related to the end time prophecies of Daniel and Revelation. So, I have a feeling about something that goes all the way back to the Nicene Council, and the discussion of which Books to keep and which Books to omit from the Canon. I am going to take these numbers from the Book of Psalms (on my own study), and apply them also to missing Books like that of Jasher and especially Enoch (since we know Christ quoted Enoch and Jude (brother of Yeshua) uses Enoch in his 1 page Book)(plus Enoch chapter 1 states the same thing as both Daniel and Revelation).

And if I find exact matches like I figured out how this person from the video was doing his math, and then cross examination, in either Jasher or especially Enoch... it would definitely prove to me what I had expected from that Council all along.

But more importantly, one of the greatest mathematician of all time "Galileo" claimed, "Mathematics is the Alphabet by which God wrote the Universe with," definitely applies to how God used the Nicene Council to be inspired, by how they chose to Chapter the Books and number the verses, so it could be possible to create this mathematical formula of Chapter times verse...and then cross examine the answer to matches throughout the Bible.

I want to shout and praise God, it's nice to see a new mathematical formula. In Job, God said He stretched a line (tape measure) to measure the universe. So I have always been aware of God's ability in mathematics. But this new formula just reveals an even DEEPER CREATIVE side of God, I was totally unaware of. I am literally tickled pink over this!!

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO PRAISE YOU YAHWEH!!
 
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obedienttogod

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#49
Let me just add this:


The NICENE COUNCIL, who took these letters, notes, scribblings and created NUMERICAL chapters and NUMERICAL verses HAD NO IDEA why they were doing as such. They just knew that was keeping current to how Book formations were done at that time. But it definitely was INSPIRED BY GOD when you can literally use that as a MATHEMATICAL FORMULA.

This to me is like witnessing a MIRACLE from viewpoint of the mathematical world.

I have not been this excited about breaking the entire Bible down (this time based upon mathematics), since I was a child looking at the presents under the Christmas Tree.

IMA LOVING IT BABY!!
 

Hevosmies

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Oy vey. The verse and chapter numbers are inspired?

Not sure about that.
 

Dino246

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Oy vey. The verse and chapter numbers are inspired?

Not sure about that.
That's funny... considering they didn't appear until several hundred years after the Nicene Council.
 
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obedienttogod

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Does not matter when the NUMERICS were added to the Books of the Bible, what is significant, is if the Holy Spirit could inspire sheep herders to write about their God, the Holy Spirit could have also dictated when a chapter began and which verses fell in that chapter. If God can speak everything into existence, if every concept about the Bible is a guiding point for our own personal lives, then even the numbers used in the chapters and verses can also been a part of god's plan in it's mathematics.

Example, I see most of you use the Book of Hebrews to pinpoint certain aspects of your arguments. But anyone worth a dime labelled as a biblical scholar and student of the WORD, knows Paul did not write it and it was written well past the 3rd century as an outline of the Bible. It happened to be popular around the time of the Council and was added to the Canon, while actual Books were omitted.
 
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obedienttogod

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Oy vey. The verse and chapter numbers are inspired?

Not sure about that.

And from the posts of yours that I have to skip past to get to ones with a clue, reveals it's a basic daily miracle you are able to tie your own shoe laces..
 

Angela53510

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#54
Let me just add this:


The NICENE COUNCIL, who took these letters, notes, scribblings and created NUMERICAL chapters and NUMERICAL verses HAD NO IDEA why they were doing as such. They just knew that was keeping current to how Book formations were done at that time. But it definitely was INSPIRED BY GOD when you can literally use that as a MATHEMATICAL FORMULA.

This to me is like witnessing a MIRACLE from viewpoint of the mathematical world.

I have not been this excited about breaking the entire Bible down (this time based upon mathematics), since I was a child looking at the presents under the Christmas Tree.

IMA LOVING IT BABY!!
No, you are completely wrong! Where do you get this nonsense from? The chapters and verses were added in the 13th and 15th centuries respectively.

Chapters:
"Archbishop Stephen Langton and Cardinal Hugo de Sancto Caro developed different schemas for systematic division of the Bible in the early 13th century. It is the system of Archbishop Langton on which the modern chapter divisions are based."

Verses:
"Robert Estienne created an alternate numbering in his 1551 edition of the Greek New Testament[17] which was also used in his 1553 publication of the Bible in French. Estienne's system of division was widely adopted, and it is this system which is found in almost all modern Bibles. Estienne produced a 1555 Vulgate that is the first Bible to include the verse numbers integrated into the text. Before this work, they were printed in the margins.[16]

The first English New Testament to use the verse divisions was a 1557 translation by William Whittingham (c. 1524–1579). The first Bible in English to use both chapters and verses was the Geneva Bible published shortly afterwards in 1560. These verse divisions soon gained acceptance as a standard way to notate verses, and have since been used in nearly all English Bibles and the vast majority of those in other languages."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapters_and_verses_of_the_Bible

If you can't get simple things like this right, how are we supposed to believe anything you write?
 

Dino246

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And from the posts of yours that I have to skip past to get to ones with a clue, reveals it's a basic daily miracle you are able to tie your own shoe laces..
Personal insults aren't necessary. It's best to keep such opinions to yourself, as they only reflect on you.
 

Dino246

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Does not matter when the NUMERICS were added to the Books of the Bible, what is significant, is if the Holy Spirit could inspire sheep herders to write about their God, the Holy Spirit could have also dictated when a chapter began and which verses fell in that chapter. If God can speak everything into existence, if every concept about the Bible is a guiding point for our own personal lives, then even the numbers used in the chapters and verses can also been a part of god's plan in it's mathematics.

Example, I see most of you use the Book of Hebrews to pinpoint certain aspects of your arguments. But anyone worth a dime labelled as a biblical scholar and student of the WORD, knows Paul did not write it and it was written well past the 3rd century as an outline of the Bible. It happened to be popular around the time of the Council and was added to the Canon, while actual Books were omitted.
It's quite inconsistent that you believe in the inspiration of verse and chapter numbering, but reject the accepted canon of Scripture.
 

lydever91

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To argue and post videos.......he blesses in one post and then mouths in the next....who knows...
Oh Boy You are a twister of words and a false accuser.
#1 you came in here off topic arguing with the other inspired ones, just because of non-related remark about about Joesphus that had nothing to do with what we were talking about.
#2Show me where I blessed and cursed anyone, you can't. So you have to twist the scripture to say that if I respectfully decline to discuss a topic thats not in the Bible means I cursed them.
I'm starting to think there are demons working through you. You didn't come to this thread to defend 70 Ad, you could of started your own thread about it, you came to participate in chaotic communication. This is not your first post, you've been here for years! You've been arguing with that guy without any real dialogue for years! Are you kidding me? Just go away!
Then you come back and act like my thread was to argue, LoL
Get thee behind me satan
 

lydever91

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Oh Boy You are a twister of words and a false accuser.
#1 you came in here off topic arguing with the other inspired ones, just because of non-related remark about about Joesphus that had nothing to do with what we were talking about.
#2Show me where I blessed and cursed anyone, you can't. So you have to twist the scripture to say that if I respectfully decline to discuss a topic thats not in the Bible means I cursed them.
I'm starting to think there are demons working through you. You didn't come to this thread to defend 70 Ad, you could of started your own thread about it, you came to participate in chaotic communication. This is not your first post, you've been here for years! You've been arguing with that guy without any real dialogue for years! Are you kidding me? Just go away!
Then you come back and act like my thread was to argue, LoL
Get thee behind me satan