Well, if he would have refused to stopped committing adultery, then I believe that his life would have been cut very, very short. Yet I still believe that he would be saved in the end. Here is why:
Well then you directly disagree with God as he says adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Your saying we can live in adultery and still receive heaven. Now who should I believe here?
Gal 5:Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Mat 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Mat 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
Your saying an adulterer can be saved, and a defiled man can enter heaven. This clearly is a contradiction no matter how you put the icing on the cake.
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. - 2 Corinthians 5:10 (KJB)
Great passage. Do you think when we receive the things done in the body that are evil, we will receive a reward, or God's wrath?
The Bible Already tells you:
Eph 2 says when we live fulfilling the flesh we were by nature the children of wrath.
Gal tells us what we reap we sow, if sow in the flesh, we reap the flesh.
You say we can live after the flesh, and still receive eternal life.
Yet you say the unfaithful servant was never saved. Why? because he lived in sin, which as grandpa said showed no faith. So if sin showed no faith, and he was never saved because of it, then how come we can live in adultery and still be saved?
Can you clear that up?
If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.- 1 Corinthians 3:14-17. (KJB)
This is a commonly misinterpreted chapter. You people love to run to this as if it's saying, are works fo evil, are going to burn up, but we will still be saved.
That is so far from what is being disccused here. The context is evangelsim. Paul is speaking to them about their work, their "work" meaning their convertes they helped to convert.
So some of our work, will not make it, as some will return to sin. Yet we will not suffer because they did not make it. This chapter is speaking about adding to the foundation of Christ, i.e. his body, his temple, which is made up of people.
Notice:
1Co 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. <-----here is the context, Paul planted the seed, Apollos watered (baptized) but God did the adding to the body (the increase) see Acts 2:47 "and the Lord added to the church..." yet Peter planted.
1Co 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.<----the teacher, the immerser are not anything without God giving the increase
1Co 3:8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. <----what is the planting, and watering? So what is the labor? Evangelism
1Co 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. <---keeping in context, how are they building on the foundation? By planting and watering --- again evangelism
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire(see 1 PET 4:12); and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. <----now do you think the context just all of a sudden changed into works meaning our sins we live in?
Your saying the work here is not connected to the labor in the above passages speaking of planting and watering?
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. <---rewarded according to our works Converts, better bear fruit huh? John 15:1-f.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.<---You will suffer loss because you work on this indivual was in vain, as he is going to be punished. Yet you are not going to be punished for his mistakes.
Now I remember you saying something about keeping things in context. Lets see if you practice what you preach.
This is the context, by how you tried to explain Hebrews in your last post, I am sure you dont get this, but you need to study and stop just throwing in things that are so far out of context the passage left my Bible!
That second question is a good one indeed. And I must give Grandpa his just dues, because he nailed it right on the head.
Not really. See my response to him, and his definition of faith is wrong.
Now for me to answer your question: I believe the unprofitable servant was unsaved and that he was never saved to begin with because of two reasons:
1) He received the same punishment as the unbelievers just as you aptly pointed out.
I asked this just to show motive. You are saying you dont believe he was ever saved because YOU dont like the punishment he received.
So is that an honest reason to reject Christ warnings, and say they dont apply to us, because you dont like the ending?
2) Just because someone is a steward, does not mean that that person is saved. Remember it rains on the just and the unjust. And every man is a steward one way or another
wrong again.
The text does not call him a almost servant, a false servant, a pretend servant, it simply says he was a servant.
If one is called a servant, you should assume he was just that.
As far as we know he was faithful up until the time his Lord left. Because then is when he thought the evil thought "my Lord delays his coming".
So then it says "he began" to live in sin. "Began" implies the time when he started doing the sin.
So nothing in the text is there for me to assume he was never saved.
Secondly, if he was never saved because he received the punishment as the unbelievers, my next question to you is.....
Why did the unfaithful servant receive the same punishment as UN-believers? Did his living in sin upon his Lords return have anything to do with that?
And also, what in the text warrants the conclusion he was never saved? If you say the punishment, then you admit, you believe this ONLY because of the punishment he received, and that is not a valid reason to assume or teach, it does not apply to us.