Eternal Security - Most dangerous words ever preached: Once saved, always saved.
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I almost had to laugh when I saw your reply. It is rather pathetic. Very few people want to have their beliefs tested. Personally, I thank God for it. If a person is sincere with the handling of Scripture, it is good as Believers, to have our understanding tested. But, it does little good to keep having to swat off humanistic concepts.
After all, those on the chat, can't even agree that the Scriptures only teach two groups, All Mankind falls into only one of these:
1) You are either God's or the Devil's.
2) You are either Spiritual or natural.
3) You are either a believer or an unbeliever.
4) You are either saved or unsaved.
5) You are either in the faith or out.
6) You are either in the truth or in the lie.
7) You are either found or lost.
8) You are either a sheep or a goat.
8) You are either elect or non-elect.
9) You are either a new creation or an old one.
10 You either love God or hate Him.
Since we can't agree on these basic teachings, then it is pretty futile trying to come to a meeting of the minds. Reminds me of this:
Isa 1:18a Come now, and let us reason together, saith Jehovah:.......
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Without Faith in Jesus Christ and Him Crucified, there is no maturing of the Christian (they are not in the faith - and there is no fruit being produced - John 15:5). The maturing Christian who is growing in Christ not only just say all of my hope is in Christ but is learning to allow all of their hope to be in Christ. Luke 9:23-24
The Believer is either operating under the "Law of Moses" (dependent upon self and their self-sufficiency, which is sin - 99.9999% who say they are Christian fall under this form of godliness according to Matthew 7:14) or operating under the New Covenant "The Law of the Spirit (Holy Spirit) of Life in Christ Jesus (by Grace through Faith in Christ and Him Crucified" Romans 8:2). This maturing Christians has one eye on the soon-coming "Judgement Seat of Christ (knowing that we will stand before our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ)!"
The Believer is either operating under the "Law of Moses" (dependent upon self and their self-sufficiency, which is sin - 99.9999% who say they are Christian fall under this form of godliness according to Matthew 7:14) or operating under the New Covenant "The Law of the Spirit (Holy Spirit) of Life in Christ Jesus (by Grace through Faith in Christ and Him Crucified" Romans 8:2). This maturing Christians has one eye on the soon-coming "Judgement Seat of Christ (knowing that we will stand before our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ)!"
Paul warns the Believer, he said, "For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, (the) sin (nature) revived, and I died (failed God by sinning, using the flesh) (Romans 7:9)."