Exposing one of satan's lies with Truth. Gods commandments are still valid today till the earth passes away.

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Budman

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Ultimateprepper, you're simply another egotist that comes to Christian boards as the ultimate "teacher" and demand we all fall in line with whatever you say, as if you personally are the final authority. And if anyone disagrees, you thunder out that we are "disagreeing with God's word", and start throwing out "begone" like confetti.

You have all the markings of a cult leader. No questions, no disagreements - just OBEY.

I predict your time here at CC will be brief.
 
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Ultimateprepper, you're simply another egotist that comes to Christian boards as the ultimate "teacher" and demand we all fall in line with whatever you say, as if you personally are the final authority. And if anyone disagrees, you thunder out that we are "disagreeing with God's word", and start throwing out "begone" like confetti.

You have all the markings of a cult leader. No questions, no disagreements - just OBEY.

I predict your time here at CC will be brief.
You cant refute Gods Word envy begone no fruits.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

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From G3346; transposition, that is, transferral (to heaven), disestablishment (of a law): - change, removing, translation.


Same word used here:

Heb 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Clarke:

There is made of necessity a change also of the law - The very essence of the Levitical law consisting in its sacrificial offerings; and as these could not confer perfection, could not reconcile God to man, purify the unholy heart, nor open the kingdom of heaven to the souls of men, consequently it must be abolished, according to the order of God himself; for he said, Sacrifice and offering, and burnt-offering, and sacrifice for sin, he would not; see Psa_40:6, Psa_40:7, compared with Heb_10:5-10, and with Psa_110:4, where it is evident God designed to change both the law and the priesthood, and to introduce Jesus as the only Priest and Sacrifice, and to substitute the Gospel system for that of the Levitical institutions.

So since we know the law was changed, let's go back to what Christ said:

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Not even a "period" from the law could be removed or changed until "heaven and earth pass". The law did change and in a quite a large way thus we know that heaven and earth did pass away at the cross. This of course is a reference to a heaven and earth age passing not the actual Heaven or Earth disappearing or being replaced.
Where Jesus also said by his mouth, "it is finished".
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Spirit of truth begone strife there is no light in you and you bring no fruits.
Yeah I see that. I agree, that is exactly what that passage says about you.

thank you for agreeing
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.
Galatians 5:1‭-‬4 ESV

"You, who would be justified by the law have fallen from grace".
Some enough.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Quoted straight from Gods word the truth your not here to learn go back to your ways of flesh begone no fruits.
The pharisee quoted right from God’s word

it was proven they knew the letter, but they had no comprehension of what it actually said

anyone can copy and paste Gods word. It does not mean they know it
 
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(Rom. 8:2) For the law of the spirit of life in Christ has freed me from the law ( held captive in flesh without spirit) of sin and death.
Yep

the law of sin and death

the same law your trying to push down our throats and demand we follow
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” But if you bite and devour one another, watch out that you are not consumed by one another.
Galatians 5:14‭-‬15 ESV

The whole law, fulfilled in one word, love your neighbor as yourself.

But if you note and devour one another, watch out that you are not consumed.

I think it is clear by the statements that there are some biters here, by his pronouncements of begone and no fruit, and no spirit, and other false accusations against brothers who have rightly divided the word.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
Galatians 5:22‭-‬26 ESV

These are the signs of those who are led by the spirit.
We see who is lead by the spirit when these signs are exhibited. Not by pharisetical figure pointing like the Roman priests of old.
 
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One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.”
Romans 14:5‭-‬6‭, ‬10‭-‬11 ESV

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.
Colossians 2:16‭-‬17 ESV

Or a Sabbath.

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.
Colossians 2:20‭-‬23 ESV
 

Grandpa

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Probably 99% of all people who work at the 10 commandments and claim Christianity say that the Lord got rid of "ceremonial" law but kept the 10 commandments for everyone to work at.

The Lord said not One jot or tittle would fall from the Law until all was fulfilled.

Wouldn't the "ceremonial" law be considered jots and tittles?

Wouldn't the book of the law be considered jots and tittles?


Certainly the 10 commandments were considered part of the law.


So, if the Lord has given you rest from the "ceremonial" law and from the book of the law, then He has given you rest from ALL the Law of sin and death.

The Lord didn't fulfill SOME of the Law and leave some for you to fulfill. He says that it will be ALL or nothing.



If a person THINKS its the Holy Spirit that has shown them that Christians are still under the 10 commandments then there is only one explanation. And that is the 10 commandments haven't led that person to Christ yet. Once it has, that person receives Rest in Christ and realizes that the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus frees them from the law of sin and death. The OP doesn't realize this yet because he hasn't received this yet.
 

Dino246

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I might take this guy more seriously if he could string together a clear, coherent, properly-punctuated sentence. ;)
 
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If you disagree with gods word your led by false doctrines. Begone no fruits your not here to learn your here to promote discord.
No, my brother, I’m not here to promote discord but rather to learn and teach. We’re saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, and His grace is sufficient. I know you know that.

One should desire to live righteously to the glory of God but it is He who saves us and sustains us by His love and grace. Our salvation can not be lost.

On another note, usually when people begin threads by stating they’re right because they’re being led by the Holy Spirit and if you disagree with them you’re wrong, such people are simply pushing an agenda which is actually contrary to God’s Truth.

In conclusion, I can relate to you regarding post number 59 because I’ve been there. Here’s the secret; remove yourself from the equation and always make it all about God, this way you will not be bothered by comments you deem slanderous.

On edit: I just read @Dino post 61 and he shares valuable wisdom. As have many others here in this thread.
 
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They didn't write like we did in ancient times DoDo
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you have very 'childishly' insulted others, not responded in Love -
your credibility with us, (hub and myself) is highly questionable,
due to your violating the Scripture, 'Speak the Truth in Love'...
 
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