Ezekiel Temple vision, Ezekiel 40-48, a millennial temple?

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His next temple on mount Zion will be His coming millennial temple on the earth

A tribulation temple .... no .... there is no temple of His today and there will not be [Revelation 11:2]

"Not one stone" He has said as He speaks about the time of the end of this present age

The orthodox want one .... but will not build either before or during the coming tribulation when Israel is under siege by the Muslim states of the Middle East [Jeremiah 30; Zechariah 12; 14; Matthew 24:15-16; Luke 21:20-36]
 

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His next temple on mount Zion will be His coming millennial temple on the earth

A tribulation temple .... no .... there is no temple of His today and there will not be [Revelation 11:2]

"Not one stone" He has said as He speaks about the time of the end of this present age

The orthodox want one .... but will not build either before or during the coming tribulation when Israel is under siege by the Muslim states of the Middle East [Jeremiah 30; Zechariah 12; 14; Matthew 24:15-16; Luke 21:20-36]
OK, then when does this happen?

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

There is only ONE Holy Place...

Exo 26:33 And thou shalt hang up the vail under the taches, that thou mayest bring in thither within the vail the ark of the testimony: and the vail shall divide unto you between the holy place and the most holy.

It is outside of the Holy of Holies. There will be an AoD stand there just as it did when Antiochus IV reared up the statue of Jupiter Olympus there in 168BC.
 

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I have news for you, that is what you think we believe, and you are wrong.

The Bride of Christ is made up of O.T. Saints, Church-age Saints, and Tribulation Saints.
The O.T. Saints and Church-age Saints, will attend the Wedding of the Lamb in OUR resurrected glorified bodies, only those still alive when HE stops short of the Earth to call out his BRIDE, will not die, but their bodies will be changed to glorified bodies in the Twinkling of the Eye. The whole calling out of the Bride happens SO FAST that it is compared as lightning flashes from East to the West. The Tribulation Saints also attend the WEEK OF YEARS Wedding in the New Jerusalem in Heaven, as they arrive throughout the Tribulation period after they are behead, and will attend the Wedding in their born again human spirits, signified by them ALSO being given white robes to wear, but they do not receive their resurrected bodies until immediately after HE SETS FOOT ON EARTH AGAIN, TAKING HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE AS KING OF THE WORLD, RULING FROM DAVID'S THRONE.

The JEWS were promised a PHYSICAL COVENANT, whereby the Descendants of ISRAEL will physically inherit the LAND OF CANAAN, throughout the entire Kingdom of Christ. That is why the 144,000 are to be SEALED from Harm in their Mortal Bodies. The Week of Years between the beginning of the Wedding of the LAMB and the Second Coming of Christ to be KING OF THE WORLD; MOST CERTAINLY IS THE 70TH WEEK OF DANIEL, NOT a continuance of the Church-age.

YES there will be MANY who turn to Christ during that SEVEN YEAR period but EVEN THE ELDER of the Church that JOHN was talking to, DID NOT REFER TO THEM AS PART OF THE CHURCH. He just referred to them as "These are they who come out of the Great Tribulation"; hence the term "Tribulation Saints". EVERY ONE OF THEM WILL BE BEHEADED AT THE ORDERS OF THE ANTICHRIST, BUT THEY ARE STILL PART OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST.

FACT: The Calling Out of the Bride happens SO FAST it is compared to lightning flashing East to West.

FACT: The Second Coming of Christ seven years later HAPPENS
SO SLOW that all the Armies of the World have time to gather
to make WAR against CHRIST in "the Jezreel Valley", also known as "Armageddon Valley" or the "Valley of Megiddo" or "the Valley of Jehoshaphat".

NOTICE: How you were taught lies about what we teach and believe, just to turn you against what we believe. Who is the author of all
lies ?

If you want more details supported with ALL Scriptures, go to my recent Thread: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/95283-calling-out-bride-go-wedding-lamb-23.html because I see NO POINT in Repeating everything here.
John saw himself with his readers, his companions, in the tribulation and the kingdom of Christ...
[SUP]9 [/SUP]I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ,

The Church was subject to tribulation since when Cain killed Abel. Noah felt the persecution from the worldly generation of his day who mocked him. The Catholic church persecuted Reformers unto death, even Calvin stood by and approved of the murder of a man for "so called blasphemy". The Church of always had to deal with tribulation from the very beginning. The "tribulation saints" is not a biblical term or idea of some separate "group" of future Christians.
 
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"Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

There is only ONE Holy Place"


And it is mount Zion [Jerusalem]

Satan's beast in the little horn of Daniel's visions will sit in a temple of "his god" that the Muslims claim is "Allah"

Paul understood the relationship between a pagan temple and the associated "god" .... the Muslims tell that this "god" is "Allah"

This temple is already on the mount today ..... and the world's attention is being focused upon this very thing as we speak

.... the abomination of desolation is there ..... and not supposed to be

These are the days that the Lord, His prophets, and His apostles all point to
 
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Not all of them do. There are many Orthodox Jews against it.

The last poll taken said 48% of the Jews want to see a temple rebuilt.
 
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"Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

There is only ONE Holy Place"


And it is mount Zion [Jerusalem]

Satan's beast in the little horn of Daniel's visions will sit in a temple of "his god" that the Muslims claim is "Allah"

Paul understood the relationship between a pagan temple and the associated "god" .... the Muslims tell that this "god" is "Allah"

This temple is already on the mount today ..... and the world's attention is being focused upon this very thing as we speak

.... the abomination of desolation is there ..... and not supposed to be

These are the days that the Lord, His prophets, and His apostles all point to

That is a twist on scripture, for the AOD has to be an abomination of our God's temple.
Not the walking in and claiming to be God in a temple that is not dedicated to Him. He has to stand in the Holy of Holies in a temple dedicated to Him in order for it to be an abomination to Him.
 
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Makes no difference what the "Jews" want see .... it is not going to happen until the end of the tribulation when they see their Messiah and King to build it


There are no instructions to build a tribulation temple in scripture .... there are always instructions in scripture for the task
 

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The last poll taken said 48% of the Jews want to see a temple rebuilt.
1) So a minority?

2) Do you have a specific reference/poll?

3) Here's the latest poll I've seen, which seems to offer some significant counter points : 40% of Jewish Israelis Want Prayer on Temple Mount - Inside Israel - News - Arutz Sheva:

Almost 40% of the Jewish population in Israel believes in changing government policy surrounding Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount - even at the cost of bloodshed, according to a survey by the "Peace Index" published Monday by the Guttman Center at the Israel Democracy Institute and the Evens Program for Solution Conflict Resolution at Tel Aviv University.

Despite this, 56% of respondents still believe in restricting Jews from praying on the Mount to "prevent friction with the Muslim world." In the same vein, nearly half (47%) support the ruling of the majority of hareidi and national-religious rabbus that Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount is forbidden, but about a quarter (26%) support the ruling of those rabbis who permit Jews to pray on the Temple Mount today.
Segmentation by religiosity of respondents indicated that among traditional-religious, religious and traditional non-religious were the most supportive of changing the "status quo" regarding the Temple Mount, (respectively 49%, 46.5% and 44%), whereas among the secular and hareidi respondents, support was far lower (34% and 17%). Specifically, 96% of hareidi respondents were against contesting the rabbinic rulings forbidding prayer on the Temple Mount, compared with 60% among the national-religious. However, 33% of the secular respondents declined to answer this set of questions.

Respondents were further asked whether or not they believe an agreement could be reached with the Muslim Waqf regarding the Temple Mount.

The survey found that less than one third of Israeli Jews (31%) believe there is now a chance to reach an agreement that will allow members of both faiths to pray there, while the majority think there is a chance for an agreement - whether due to the Muslims who support such a ruling (30%), because of Israeli Jews (4%), or because of both combined (29%).

The survey was conducted by telephone by the research institute Midgam, from November 3-5, 2014. A total of 603 respondents answered questions, constituting a representative national sample of the entire adult population aged 18 and over. The maximum sampling error for the entire sample was ± 4.1% with 95% accuracy.

The survey follows Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu declaration recently that his intention is to maintain the "status quo" at the site, whereby Jews are forbidden to pray as a response to Muslim pressure - despite round after round of Arab rioting.
The PM emphasized that Jews would continue to be allowed to visit, but than a ban on praying would remain.
 

JimmieD

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Makes no difference what the "Jews" want see .... it is not going to happen until the end of the tribulation when they see their Messiah and King to build it
All the sudden your previous assertion "makes no difference." Very convenient.
 
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The current conflict will do nothing but become more intense and will involve Israel's very survival

This setting will not be conducive to the building any temple during the time of Jacob's trouble

Only after Armageddon will the temple be built [Ezekiel 40]
 
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"All the sudden your previous assertion "makes no difference." Very convenient."


Explain yourself son ......... my statements of the subject are both true according to scripture .... never been any other way

Preterists don't get to speak about this because they have intentionally destroyed the very fabric of the prophets' views and thrown them away

.... you have no business in the conversation

 

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2 Peter 3:3-4 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
This really hurts... But I'll try not to think of myself.

Let me test your biblical understand of this passage. Read the whole in it's context. Do you ever see a temple mentioned in it? But you call me a scoffer because I say the temple of God is not made with human hands, but as by God with living stones. Show me where Peter is talking about a future temple? Peter is talking about the 2nd coming of Christ and the Earth which is reserved for fire. I have never denied Christ is coming again a second time. You judge me unrighteously, you are implying I walk according to the flesh, and you don't even know me nor my walk. Do you know that Christ will judge us for every word that comes out of our mouth.

Not only that, Peter was calling his day the last days, just as he did in Acts 2:17, quoting the prophet Joel he said, ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, Peter was referring to his day as the last days. I pray you'd receive spiritual understanding in this. The Christians Peter is writing are questioning why has Christ not come yet, and the scoffers are trying to discredit Christ and he Christians by saying where is He, for they (the 1st century Christians) were under intense tribulation and persecution from both Roman and Jews.
 

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"All the sudden your previous assertion "makes no difference." Very convenient."


Explain yourself son ......... my statements of the subject are both true according to scripture .... never been any other way

Preterists don't get to speak about this because they have intentionally destroyed the very fabric of the prophets' views and thrown them away

.... you have no business in the conversation

In your effort to promote some sort of eschaton temple in Jerusalem, you asserted was that "Orthodox Jews want one..." but are unable to do so right now. Your assertion is unsupportable by facts. There are many Orthodox Jews who don't want one and don't believe they need one. Rabbi Ovadia Yosef ruled against Jews going to the temple mount. Many of the ultra-orthodox in the Shas party (eg Rabbi David Yosef) today are also against it. So, here we have not an insignificant number of ultra-orthodox Rabbis making halakic rulings against even visiting the site much less undertaking some sort of construction project that would involve the removal of the Dome of the Rock. Sure, some Orthodox Jews would probably like a temple, but many see no need for it.

Your position does not consider the facts as they are. There is a considerable number of religiously devout Jews who don't think they need a temple.

And why do you keep calling people "son?" It's a little weird. If you call me "son" I think it's fair game to refer to you as "old man." On the other hand, I do understand that it's your desperate attempt to regain some sort of ground considering you've lost ground by ignoring facts.
 
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1) So a minority?

2) Do you have a specific reference/poll?

3) Here's the latest poll I've seen, which seems to offer some significant counter points : 40% of Jewish Israelis Want Prayer on Temple Mount - Inside Israel - News - Arutz Sheva:

Almost 40% of the Jewish population in Israel believes in changing government policy surrounding Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount - even at the cost of bloodshed, according to a survey by the "Peace Index" published Monday by the Guttman Center at the Israel Democracy Institute and the Evens Program for Solution Conflict Resolution at Tel Aviv University.

Despite this, 56% of respondents still believe in restricting Jews from praying on the Mount to "prevent friction with the Muslim world." In the same vein, nearly half (47%) support the ruling of the majority of hareidi and national-religious rabbus that Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount is forbidden, but about a quarter (26%) support the ruling of those rabbis who permit Jews to pray on the Temple Mount today.
Segmentation by religiosity of respondents indicated that among traditional-religious, religious and traditional non-religious were the most supportive of changing the "status quo" regarding the Temple Mount, (respectively 49%, 46.5% and 44%), whereas among the secular and hareidi respondents, support was far lower (34% and 17%). Specifically, 96% of hareidi respondents were against contesting the rabbinic rulings forbidding prayer on the Temple Mount, compared with 60% among the national-religious. However, 33% of the secular respondents declined to answer this set of questions.

Respondents were further asked whether or not they believe an agreement could be reached with the Muslim Waqf regarding the Temple Mount.

The survey found that less than one third of Israeli Jews (31%) believe there is now a chance to reach an agreement that will allow members of both faiths to pray there, while the majority think there is a chance for an agreement - whether due to the Muslims who support such a ruling (30%), because of Israeli Jews (4%), or because of both combined (29%).

The survey was conducted by telephone by the research institute Midgam, from November 3-5, 2014. A total of 603 respondents answered questions, constituting a representative national sample of the entire adult population aged 18 and over. The maximum sampling error for the entire sample was ± 4.1% with 95% accuracy.

The survey follows Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu declaration recently that his intention is to maintain the "status quo" at the site, whereby Jews are forbidden to pray as a response to Muslim pressure - despite round after round of Arab rioting.
The PM emphasized that Jews would continue to be allowed to visit, but than a ban on praying would remain.

Sorry should have said 43 not 48, but still that is almost half of them.

[h=1]One third of Israeli Jews want Temple rebuilt in Jerusalem, poll finds[/h][h=2]Among religious Jews questioned, 43 percent support construction on Temple Mount, compared with 31 percent among secular Jews. Survey released ahead of Tisha B'Av also finds Western Wall still considered Judaism's holiest site.[/h]By Nir Hasson | Jul. 12, 2013 | 9:50 AM |
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"Your position does not consider the facts as they are. There is a considerable number of religiously devout Jews who don't think they need a temple."


The orthodox that do want strive .... but the Lord is not interested .... and you should know why .... no temple of His will be built until He is ready .... can you wrap your brain around this truth?

Call me anything you want .... it makes no difference to me

And if it is any comfort to you my age as posted is in error .... one of my staff registers me on the forums that I post, and the entry was made in error .... I really do not care

I am 71 years old and have carried a Bible for 50 years

So how old are you son?

I suspect that one's age and wisdom shows through their written communication .... I see that you are much younger

Time cultivates better understanding in my opinion
 
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Sorry should have said 43 not 48, but still that is almost half of them.

One third of Israeli Jews want Temple rebuilt in Jerusalem, poll finds

Among religious Jews questioned, 43 percent support construction on Temple Mount, compared with 31 percent among secular Jews. Survey released ahead of Tisha B'Av also finds Western Wall still considered Judaism's holiest site.

By Nir Hasson | Jul. 12, 2013 | 9:50 AM |
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1) Thanks for the link.

2) For the purposes of this sort of discussion, are we considering only religious Jews or do we consider the religious and secular? I wouldn't think that most futurists would like to exclude secular Jews from the discussion, after all, the State of Israel itself is secular and yet supposedly has some sort of key role in events to come. And should we consider only citizens of Israel or non-citizens as well?

3) In your link, only 30% of Israeli Jews supported building a temple. That's well below half of the citizenry with 45% strictly opposed. So, a significantly greater number of the citizenry opposes such a thing. Also interesting is that it says only 20% of the ultra-orthodox support . This is probably because their Rabbis have been known to pass halakic rulings against it.

4) The poll was conducted prior to July 2013, which means it's outdated at this point.
 

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Old enough to know when your facts are clouded by your worldview.

I suspect that one's age and wisdom shows through their written communication .... I see that you are much younger

Time cultivates better understanding in my opinion
And the genetic fallacy says that truth isn't a respector of age. I would think someone with so much experience would know better than to appeal to age rather than giving good reason.
 
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1) Thanks for the link.

2) For the purposes of this sort of discussion, are we considering only religious Jews or do we consider the religious and secular? I wouldn't think that most futurists would like to exclude secular Jews from the discussion, after all, the State of Israel itself is secular and yet supposedly has some sort of key role in events to come. And should we consider only citizens of Israel or non-citizens as well?

3) In your link, only 30% of Israeli Jews supported building a temple. That's well below half of the citizenry with 45% strictly opposed. So, a significantly greater number of the citizenry opposes such a thing. Also interesting is that it says only 20% of the ultra-orthodox support . This is probably because their Rabbis have been known to pass halakic rulings against it.

4) The poll was conducted prior to July 2013, which means it's outdated at this point.

That is true that it would be out dated, but the fact is that they say more and more every year are pushing for a rebuilt temple. And if you take and put all the groups combined as they did, they came up with 1 out of every 3 Jews want the temple rebuilt or as they put it 1/3.
So if you take and say you have 99 Jews, then 33 of them want the temple built and the other 66 do not. Now if you take that by how they say this increases every year, then we are probably at somewhere between 40 to 50 now wanting it.
 
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I decided to make a new thread rather then hijacking and derailing the thread titled 144000 by Jillyanne.

The dialog between Kennethcadwell, JesusIsAll and myself went down as follows:











Now concerning the temple in Ezekiel 40-48...

Kenneth is correct is saying that the dimensions given do not match the second temple. But it is not like I can't give a theories why it wasn't. Most mainstream Christians believe this is a description of a yet (our) future temple that will be build by Jesus or Jews during or before a future millennium. I will try to demonstrated biblically that this view has more problems, even bordering to an extent of blasphemy, then the theories i will suggest..First I will give you my theories, then I will give you reasons why this can't be a future (our future) millennial temple.

My theories:

1) I said perhaps they didn't build it right in following the blueprint. This could be true, because during the time of the second temple it is recorded in Ezra that they had opposition and resistance regarding the building process. Their surrounding neighbors didn't want the Israelites there and give them problems (you can read about starting Ezra 4).

2) This ties in with theory 1) somewhat. In Ezekiel 43:10-11, God tells Ezekiel to give the plans to the Israelites if they are ashamed of their iniquities, if they are ashamed of all they've done, then make known to them the design of the temple and its arrangement.... If this was to be the model of the second temple, Zerubbabel's temple, perhaps it didn't get built to exact specifications because not all of the Jews who went into exile were repentant. See there is a condition involved to building this temple according to its exact specifications. We know that not all Jews in Babylon wanted to leave Babylon and didn't. They had their business, friends, mixed marriages most like, families etc. etc. Those that did leave weren't much better off, read some Jew repressed the poor, some men married Gentile women. We ready about the trouble the Israelites had in building from the opposition from their neighbors. Some Jews were ashamed, but not all, perhaps not enough. Perhaps Ezekiel never gave this plans to the Israelites because they did not repent before Ezekiel's death. Perhaps the book of Ezekiel was found later in Babylon later after the Jews return to Jerusalem. This theory is very probable. This could have a possible or potential temple (what might have been) IF the Jew were ashamed of their sin. However, IMO, just like Moses temple, this temple is not without spiritual value and meaning.

3) The vision given was not of a physical temple, but a spiritual one. We know the temple described to Moses has heavenly and spiritual applications described in Hebrews and other parts of scripture. This temple described in Ezekiel has definite spiritual qualities that goes against what we see in the natural realm. In Chapter 47, we see water flowing out of the temple, the temple was the source of the water flowing. As the LORD took Ezekiel out in the water, it got deeper and deeper as Ezekiel went. This goes against the natural characters of water, as water flows from it's source it gets less and less (evaporation, plant, animal and human life drink that water consume the water). This certainly a picture of heavenly things. Not only that, but it said that the plants along the river will provide food (different every month) and their leaves (that do not wither) for healing. This sounds much like John heavenly vision in Revelation 22. This river flow through the dead sea and brings it to life, for we see fishermen fishing and catching all kinds of fish (Gentiles, I believe) in their nets. To me, this sounds like the Church age, Christs kingdom on this side of reality (post eternal) and the work God is doing through the Church. When Christ came the first time, He brought His kingdom with Him. John the baptist declared it, and so did Jesus:
Jesus Begins His Galilean Ministry

14 Now after John was put in prison, Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom[e] of God, 15 and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)

And Christs Kingdom was fully inaugurated at His ascension, were He now sits at the right hand of the Father. Christ depicts the Kingdom of heaven to be much like this spiritual vision in Ezekiel, "the kingdom of heaven is like...a small mustered seed grows into a big tree, a loft of bread with a little leaven to start off with but fills the whole lump, ...


The Parable of the Dragnet

47 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind, 48 which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away. (Matt. 13:47)

I could say more, but like most of you I don't like long posts...but with topic and the garbage being thrown around it's a must. Sorry if that offends some of you, but I must be true to my convictions.
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Now I will address the problems with Ezekiel's temple being the millennial temple, the popular mainstream dispensationalist view and I'll demonstrate, biblically, that this temple can not (it's impossible) be a future millennial temple.


1) In Ezekiel 44:22, it says about the priests" [SUP]22 [/SUP]They shall not take as wife a widow or a divorced woman, but take virgins of the descendants of the house of Israel, or widows of priests. Most dispensationalist will argue that this temple is after Christ's return, so called rapture of the Church, were He reign with an iron fist. So the current believers are resurrected at the rapture and serve Christ in some way. However, Jesus said in Luke 20 that after the resurrection no man will marry. After the resurrection marriage is done away with.

34 Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;36 nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

2) Also in the resurrection of the Saints, Jesus says there is no more death, see verse 36 in the verse above. Now look back to ezekiel's passage about the priesthood's condition of marriage, they can marry a woman of a deceased priest. Now why would Ezekiel put that in there if there is no more death? The passage in Ezekiel suggest that there will be death, because a priest can marry a deceased priest's wife. To say this temple is a millennial temple flies in the face of scripture, this is what the Paul says after the resurrection: (would recommend you read all of 1 Corinthians 15):


“Death is swallowed up in victory.”[g]
55 “O Death, where is your sting?[h]
O Hades, where is your victory?”


Dispensationalist will try to explain this away by saying there is more then 1 physical resurrection, and actual split 1 coming of Christ into two, claiming it is still 1, or a secret one, however this view has no biblical merit. (besides a spiritual resurrection, that bible calls regeneration when you first get saved). The bible teach Christ will come with a loud noise, not a secret coming.

3) In Ezekiel 44:9, God tells Ezekiel condition for temple service is that one needs to be circumcised of the heart and flesh. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Thus says the Lord God: “No foreigner, uncircumcised in heart or uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter My sanctuary, including any foreigner who is among the children of Israel. The NT clearly states that circumcision of the flesh has no value before God.

Galatians 5:6
6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.

1 Corinthians 7:19
19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

Galatians 6:15
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation.

Romans 2:28-29
28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

So God is only concerned with circumcision of the heart, not the flesh. But in Ezekiel's you had to have both which indicts that if this temple were to be built, it had to have been before the NT, the new covenant, pre-Christ's first coming. So what, are going back to the old covenant in the millennium people? The old covenant that the writer of Hebrews said was about to vanish way and was obsolete? If this temple is for the the future, it flies in the face of scripture. God never says He's going to resurrect the old covenant. (see Hebrews 8:13 below).

4) In Ezekiel's temple, animal sacrifices are performed for the taking way of sin. Chapter 40:38-39 gives a description of some of the instruments uses in animal sacrifice:
[SUP]38 [/SUP]There was a chamber and its entrance by the gateposts of the gateway, where they washed the burnt offering. [SUP]39 [/SUP]In the vestibule of the gateway were two tables on this side and two tables on that side, on which to slay the burnt offering, the sin offering, and the trespass offering.

Chapter 43:18-22 actually tells these animal sacrifice are for atonement, a sin offering, and burnt offerings:
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And He said to me, “Son of man, thus says the Lord God: ‘These are the ordinances for the altar on the day when it is made, for sacrificing burnt offerings on it, and for sprinkling blood on it. [SUP]19 [/SUP]You shall give a young bull for a sin offering to the priests, the Levites, who are of the seed of Zadok, (btw, does any know who these men are, sure God would, but how do we verify the ones doing the work are the the right sons of Zadok?) who approach Me to minister to Me,’ says the Lord God. [SUP]20 [/SUP]‘You shall take some of its blood and put it on the four horns of the altar, on the four corners of the ledge, and on the rim around it; thus you shall cleanse it and make atonement for it. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Then you shall also take the bull of the sin offering, and burn it in the appointed place of the temple, outside the sanctuary. [SUP]22 [/SUP]On the second day you shall offer a kid of the goats without blemish for a sin offering;

To say that animal sacrifices will be performed in the millennium is blasphemous according the writer of Hebrews, not only that but the bible clearly states that God never took pleasure in animal sacrifices or burnt offerings (God did it to shadow the atonement of Jesus upon the Cross). In Hebrews 10:10 the writer says Christ took away the sins of the world once for ALL. There is no need to back to temple, priest and sacrifice. To go back to these things Hewbrews says would be trampling on the blood of Christ (Hewbrews 10:29).

Christ’s Death Fulfills God’s Will

5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: (a quote of King David, Palms 40)

“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.
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In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
You had no pleasure.

7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.’”



10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?The author is talking about those people who for some reason go back to the old system of sacrifice.

Hebrews 8:13
13 In that He says, “A newcovenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Most Dispensationalists will try to explain this away by saying these sacrifices are is done just as a memorial to the LORD, such as our LORD's table of communion we do in church. Now where in scripture is it commanded to do these things as a memorial.Conclusion: This temple can not be a future temple of any kind. It can only be applied spiritually and /or to a time before Christ's coming in Jerusalem's history were Old Testament/Covenant practices were in place. The new replaces the old with better promises. Scripture makes this abundantly clear, and also states that God's temple is His Church with Christ as its head, built not with the hands of men (not like Ezekiel's temple, clearly the instructions where give for men to construct) but God Himself.

This post took a long time to construct. I will not reply with questions or comments for a while. Thanks to Steve Gregg for his insightful teaching and dedication to God in discerning the truth of God's holy Word in whom I got most of this material from but I constructed in my own words.
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I'd submit there will be another temple before the Lord's return.