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About cleavage and shirts? No, I don't think so. But, he did talk about being a stumbling block. It sure would be a shame if someone came on here trying to find help but her cleavage was the first thing they saw... That my friend is a stumbling block. Christians are to come out from among the world and be a separate people also men and women should dress in modest apparel. Stop trying to sugar coat the gospel...
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In my observated account and it will be long living. I have understood, because I live not in my flesh but in my spirit.
The word faith logicaly means trust, and it is a belief system.
This belief system should have a transformation in your daily life, Meaning there is a outcome, or should I say a prize to it all.
I ask my self this question from time to time, in this journey, what am I striving for with this belief system? There has to be a benefit for my faith.
I would hope every new born christian has eternal life in mind. Think about it, I am giving my all, meaning: I'm enrolling my emotions into this system, and eventually this faith captivates my actions in some degree whole heartedly.
And, where there is action there is a experience. I truly can relate to the aromatherapy of Jesus christ, living and breathing his life, a figure to follow.
This is not work, it's a life worth living.
I believe that all righteous deeds are as filthy rags unto the lord. Do not expect to buy or out do yourself for his exceptance.
In my mind I know he has already reconciled me to Abba father through his sufferings here on this planet called earth.
The beauty of it all is I want to promote this life through my actions.
I can not be alive without him.
In any race for a prize there will be casualties, hardships, and in most cases a transformation
It is difficult at times dying to yourself, loosing yourself in its possibilities. And in all situations it most definitely brings discomfort, I am always vulnerable in my pursuit for love.
This endurance should bring you to a state of humility. I'm a lowly being and in all circumstances lost with out that light.
I want to be apart of the greater cause, this is my destiny, his truth, will, and desire for my life.
It is plainly written in the Holy Bible.
He has incrypted his heart for us to follow.
The word faith logicaly means trust, and it is a belief system.
This belief system should have a transformation in your daily life, Meaning there is a outcome, or should I say a prize to it all.
I ask my self this question from time to time, in this journey, what am I striving for with this belief system? There has to be a benefit for my faith.
I would hope every new born christian has eternal life in mind. Think about it, I am giving my all, meaning: I'm enrolling my emotions into this system, and eventually this faith captivates my actions in some degree whole heartedly.
And, where there is action there is a experience. I truly can relate to the aromatherapy of Jesus christ, living and breathing his life, a figure to follow.
This is not work, it's a life worth living.
I believe that all righteous deeds are as filthy rags unto the lord. Do not expect to buy or out do yourself for his exceptance.
In my mind I know he has already reconciled me to Abba father through his sufferings here on this planet called earth.
The beauty of it all is I want to promote this life through my actions.
I can not be alive without him.
In any race for a prize there will be casualties, hardships, and in most cases a transformation
It is difficult at times dying to yourself, loosing yourself in its possibilities. And in all situations it most definitely brings discomfort, I am always vulnerable in my pursuit for love.
This endurance should bring you to a state of humility. I'm a lowly being and in all circumstances lost with out that light.
I want to be apart of the greater cause, this is my destiny, his truth, will, and desire for my life.
It is plainly written in the Holy Bible.
He has incrypted his heart for us to follow.
But I can say the same thing about your self righteous, holier than thou, attitude being stumbling a block. I certainly wouldn't accept your view of KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS.
Who's to say what is modest, that is culturally dictated. Would you be covering up women in countries who are topless. One of the great sins of missionaries was clothing people in the Amazon who wore no cloth to begin with.
You keep speaking about what we wear as though that were the Gospel. If people stumble over her cleavage, then the message here is extremely weak. And besides who is responsible for her cleavage to begin with? Who gave it to her?
Who's to say what is modest, that is culturally dictated. Would you be covering up women in countries who are topless. One of the great sins of missionaries was clothing people in the Amazon who wore no cloth to begin with.
You keep speaking about what we wear as though that were the Gospel. If people stumble over her cleavage, then the message here is extremely weak. And besides who is responsible for her cleavage to begin with? Who gave it to her?
In James.. the 'faith without works is dead' verse is in among verses about how people are serving God daily.
- Abraham.. wasn't an account of him being given eternal salvation but an instant of how he was walking with Jesus
- Rahab.. same
etc..
So therefore.. faith without works is dead becomes something along the lines of :
The faith you have in Jesus without action is dormant.
NOT that there was no faith to begin with.. or that eternal salvation has been undone.
THE faith is what this is about.. not saving faith.
- Abraham.. wasn't an account of him being given eternal salvation but an instant of how he was walking with Jesus
- Rahab.. same
etc..
So therefore.. faith without works is dead becomes something along the lines of :
The faith you have in Jesus without action is dormant.
NOT that there was no faith to begin with.. or that eternal salvation has been undone.
THE faith is what this is about.. not saving faith.
Seems you are trying put the physical things first instead of realizing that you must first make the inside of the cup clean.
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1st John 5:7-10
king James version(KJV)
7.)For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8.)And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9.)If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10.)He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
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1st John 5:7-10
king James version(KJV)
7.)For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8.)And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9.)If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10.)He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
What is baptism
Baptism is one of several responses, given to us by God, to express and demonstrate our faith in God (James 2: 17, 18) and also to perfect and complete our faith. (James 2: 22) The Greek word, baptizo, means to dip or plunge, so if the word had been appropriately translated in the Bible, we would have the word, immerse, or something similar. In certain segments of the religious world today, the concept, is commonly belittled and diminished, although baptism was authorized by Christ for all the world. (Mt. 28: 18-20; Mark 16: 15, 16) Many claim that baptism is merely a rite, a symbol, the outward expression of an inward grace. The Scriptures, on the other hand, tell us that the one baptism is one of the seven pillars of the unity of the Spirit and that there is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God, and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. (Eph. 4; 3- 6) Please, don’t let anyone tell you that baptism is insignificant. Not only that but we find that water, yes, plain water, is one of the three witnesses that Jesus is the Son of God. (1 John 5: 5- 9) The other two witnesses are the blood and the Spirit. It is then important to come to a better understanding. Some tell us that since water is a physical entity, that God cannot use it to accomplish spiritual purposes. This is an example of another unsupported claim, as God uses unleavened bread and the fruit of the vine, physical entities, to accomplish the spiritual purpose of remembering or Lord. God bless.
Baptism is one of several responses, given to us by God, to express and demonstrate our faith in God (James 2: 17, 18) and also to perfect and complete our faith. (James 2: 22) The Greek word, baptizo, means to dip or plunge, so if the word had been appropriately translated in the Bible, we would have the word, immerse, or something similar. In certain segments of the religious world today, the concept, is commonly belittled and diminished, although baptism was authorized by Christ for all the world. (Mt. 28: 18-20; Mark 16: 15, 16) Many claim that baptism is merely a rite, a symbol, the outward expression of an inward grace. The Scriptures, on the other hand, tell us that the one baptism is one of the seven pillars of the unity of the Spirit and that there is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God, and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. (Eph. 4; 3- 6) Please, don’t let anyone tell you that baptism is insignificant. Not only that but we find that water, yes, plain water, is one of the three witnesses that Jesus is the Son of God. (1 John 5: 5- 9) The other two witnesses are the blood and the Spirit. It is then important to come to a better understanding. Some tell us that since water is a physical entity, that God cannot use it to accomplish spiritual purposes. This is an example of another unsupported claim, as God uses unleavened bread and the fruit of the vine, physical entities, to accomplish the spiritual purpose of remembering or Lord. God bless.
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Returning venom with venom makes you no better.
You did a little better here:
But still missing the mark.
You've publicly called this young man: Judgemental, Immature, Self Righteous (holier than thou), Stumbling Block.
Yes, the young man completely misses the main idea of the OP.
Yes, he probably should have addressed the OP through a PM (though this is arguable, as the photo in question is public).
However, you never brought this young man back to either of the two points above.
1. Main idea of OP: "we could never save ourselves...but Christ can. And He did."
2. While JesusName1's initial post was rude and offensive -- he's got a valid point; cleavage should probably not be on display. So, perhaps, suggest he bring it to the OP's attention via PM. I think that would be better than commencing name-calling.
You did a little better here:
But still missing the mark.
You've publicly called this young man: Judgemental, Immature, Self Righteous (holier than thou), Stumbling Block.
Yes, the young man completely misses the main idea of the OP.
Yes, he probably should have addressed the OP through a PM (though this is arguable, as the photo in question is public).
However, you never brought this young man back to either of the two points above.
1. Main idea of OP: "we could never save ourselves...but Christ can. And He did."
2. While JesusName1's initial post was rude and offensive -- he's got a valid point; cleavage should probably not be on display. So, perhaps, suggest he bring it to the OP's attention via PM. I think that would be better than commencing name-calling.
J
Thank you Warrior for telling it how it is and not just trashing one side. If she would've posted something saying how much she loves the LORD or about things that she has done that helps her better serve him, then yes, I would've sent her a message about things that have helped me and other things she could try that might help her as well and I probably wouldn't mention the picture in the first pm. But, what I saw is someone that seems to be promoting a fruitless life style but, if someone does produce fruit that good but, it makes no difference either way. It really bothers me how a lot of people are so stuck on what they may not have to do. Last sentence not for OP.
J
What Jesus did on Calvary was his gift to mankind. That sentence has never really meant much to me because, he died for EVERYONE and I'm just a drop in the bucket. But, the night that this same Jesus who died on the cross drew ME to an alter of repentance and I accepted his call. So, now I go to church, read the bible, pray, and fast. I'm not trying to repay him for what he did on Calvary, what could I give to a king who stepped off his thrown, humbled himself as a servant, and died for me? The answer is nothing... I live and work for him on a daily basis simply because he is my Friend. He didn't just come to me one time and leave but, he is with me and in me everyday.