You still have not shown me where any person said “all people who believe and do many works believe they do them does them because they are working for salvation.”
How does it feel to
want EG?
The "thing" that seems to be screwing up many peoples heads, is the "what, where, when, how, and why", of this term
works!
Anyone can
say they
believe! Which, in and of itself? Are just words
without meaning! Believe-ING? On the other hand? Requires an ongoing forwards moving progression! Or, what?
WORKS!
Cuz ya see, EG, it requires
works, in the DENYING of oneself, AT THE VERY ONSET, in order for one to even USE "the FRUIT" of FAITH, or believe-ING! And so it is with
all the "fruit of the Spirit."
A key of David, is
understanding.
The "fruit of the Spirit", is of the "Spirit of God!"
This is DIFFERENT from the "Gift of the Holy Spirit, aka Spiritual Gifts", which one receives AFTER accepting Jesus.
Which go "pretty much" dormant, whilst awaiting for
works from the individual.
Does this mean the individual is
NOT saved, or has Salvation? GOD FORBID!
Hebrews 1
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity;
therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Hebrews 2
Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard,
lest at ANY TIME we should let them slip.
8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him.
But now we see not yet all things put under him.
Wonder what happened? SOMETHING MUST have "slipped?" Eh?
1 Corinthians 13
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. (this takes
works)
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. (without
works)
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
So works
FOR salvation? Works to
maintain salvation? Works for Spiritual Gifts?
I vote
YES!
Hebrews 2
3
How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;