Following Paul To Follow Christ

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
G

Guojing

Banned
#61
Jan 12, 2019
7,497
1,399
113
#61
Shemuel-Yerimiyahu said:
Like I have said before I think Paul has some good nuggets in his epistles but not something to hang my theology on. I do study daily and read his epistles in my studies and do word studies and try to really understand what he is saying and what he truly is all about. But it’s my personal belief that he should viewed as a man that has some good things to say, albeit confusing when he starts talking double mindedly (seemingly, I am not judging just stating that there are several instances where he says the law is abolished and that it’s not abolished, as an example but I continue to study to see what he is really trying to say)
Click to expand...
So can I conclude that, in your point of view, to the church, Paul should be view as "another apostle" similar to Peter, James and John? All of them are preaching the same message as Jesus did in Matthew Mark Luke and John?
 
S

Shemuel-Yerimiyahu

Member
#62
Jan 28, 2019
48
19
8
#62
Guojing said:
So can I conclude that, in your point of view, to the church, Paul should be view as "another apostle" similar to Peter, James and John? All of them are preaching the same message as Jesus did in Matthew Mark Luke and John?
Click to expand...
Hi Guojing,

In my view and understanding of scriptures that is how I view the apostles and Paul, that they were men writing letters to churches and assemblies, and that they were teachers. Much like today there are people that also speak truth, but we are to take that truth and study it out in scripture and prayer. The model we are to live by (or at least have come to believe for myself as I do not want to impose my beliefs on anyone just share what I feel is truth and discuss so that we may sharpen one another as iron) is to live as much as possible like Yahshua did , the apostles modeled their life after this so I think they are good examples, however Yahshua is our ultimate example and we should look to Him for direction. Taking words of wisdom shared by brethren or teachers is a beautiful thing, but taking those words and applying to scripture and study is how I believe it ought to happen.
 
G

Guojing

Banned
#63
Jan 12, 2019
7,497
1,399
113
#63
Shemuel-Yerimiyahu said:
Hi Guojing,

In my view and understanding of scriptures that is how I view the apostles and Paul, that they were men writing letters to churches and assemblies, and that they were teachers. Much like today there are people that also speak truth, but we are to take that truth and study it out in scripture and prayer. The model we are to live by (or at least have come to believe for myself as I do not want to impose my beliefs on anyone just share what I feel is truth and discuss so that we may sharpen one another as iron) is to live as much as possible like Yahshua did , the apostles modeled their life after this so I think they are good examples, however Yahshua is our ultimate example and we should look to Him for direction. Taking words of wisdom shared by brethren or teachers is a beautiful thing, but taking those words and applying to scripture and study is how I believe it ought to happen.
Click to expand...
Thanks for sharing. Yeah, this is a very common view held by Christians.

For my case, I try to understand the Bible from a dispensation point of view, so I try to divide the word into "written to the Jews", and "written to the church".
 
Absolutely

Absolutely

Banned
#64
Jul 23, 2018
12,199
2,775
113
#64
Lanolin said:
JEsus personally chose Paul to be apostle to the gentiles and...Paul told the gentiles about Jesus he was not puffed up in the way his detractors claim.

He talked about his supernatural conversion in .book of acts at least three times, and suffered by being put in prison, beaten, stoned, shipwrecked, falsely accused, buffeted by satan...he boasted nothing except for preaching Christ crucified. We do well to follow his example, if anyone formerly persecuted believers as a Pharisee can attest but then he became the first and greatest missionary ever. He went on his journeys reaching out to people hed never met, that werent his family or kindred...how many of us do that and dedicate our whole lives to that task? For Jesus? We do well to follow his example.
Click to expand...
This reads like a billy grahm biography.
The bible is the word of God,written by the H S ,through man.
All the apostles were instruments.
Paul is one among many.
Follw Jesus. Read the epistles. If need be try NOT to do so through the "who wrote it" or " who is it to".

That has made way too much over the person of paul.

Paul was handed revelation as were the others. John was handed revelation.
Unfortunately the Paul adherants have the nt books fighting each other.

IOW,the bible can not be inspired,if Christ himself ,wrote it,and is at odds with HIMSELF.
IT either confirms and compliments itself,or if not,it IS NOT inspired
 
You must log in or register to reply here.