gay marriage

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
M

Mitspa

Guest
No you are right it isn't. Quite frankly I don't understand it how a gay person can be gay! Like a lot of things I don't understand in life.
what I try to do though is see things from other perspectives. I like barking up all types of trees to understand perspectives and i dont mind challenging these concepts if i don't understand them. I would challenge gay people the same way
Since your so open minded ..have you ever considered that this is just sin and they have yielded themselves to their sinful desires to the point they have lost even the ability to see their own natural purpose as a man or woman?
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,396
113
Rather simple....God is against gay marriage and everybody who is a true believer and biblical will be against it!
 

HQ

Senior Member
Jan 26, 2014
196
6
18
Really? Because science has found the homosexual gene already and can tell us that there is where it comes from
Actually that's not an accurate statement. There are plenty of studies in progress that are trying to find such a gene but so far no such gene has been found. Personally I think there are four possible explanations for the rise in homosexuality. The first is the explosion in "Byphynal A"exposure as a result of all the plastics bottles that we're drinking from (Google the term and you'll see what I mean). The second is the sexualization of children at a very young age and the accompanying politically correct affirmations that same sex marriages are as valid as traditional marriages. The third is the mainstream media's constant barrage of politically correct memes regarding sex that we must either embrace or risk the wrath of the PC police. The fourth, I believe, is simply Satan doing what Satan does best - lie to, seduce and destroy the victims that our society has already softened up.

Could there be a biological component to homosexuality? Maybe, but so far there is no smoking gun that I'm aware of.
 
Last edited:
Aug 15, 2009
9,745
179
0
You don't need to be a Christian to be raked over hot coals because of a belief structure, or colour, or race, or facial feature, or hair colour etc etc. Non Christians alike have to cop all types of crap too.
There is nothing wrong with what you believe yourself. Telling someone they are wrong because they believe something else is treading on some toes for real.
1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Herein lies our problem with this fellow.
 
Jan 2, 2015
149
3
0
God is against it..ever heard of Sodomy and Gomorrah..but who cares what God thinks !!

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Ga 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
 
C

Cruisyazz

Guest
Since your so open minded ..have you ever considered that this is just sin and they have yielded themselves to their sinful desires to the point they have lost even the ability to see their own natural purpose as a man or woman?
yes I have. Is it our job to tell them it is wrong though? Sinful nature encompasses a whole range of lifestyles. All of which wont change unless God help us. I don't reckon man pointing out our sins are going to achieve anything.
 
M

Mitspa

Guest
yes I have. Is it our job to tell them it is wrong though? Sinful nature encompasses a whole range of lifestyles. All of which wont change unless God help us. I don't reckon man pointing out our sins are going to achieve anything.
Well its very much our responsibility as Christians to express the truth in love..how God leads folks to do that can be different, but in the end they need to be delivered from this sin through Christ Jesus. As good citizens, that desire a healthy society, we should be clear that these things are not healthy or desirable.
 
L

likeme1956

Guest
we all know what God has to say on all forms of sexual immorality,which includes homosexuality,but God wants people being obedient to him out of a willful loving heart not people who are forced to obey his standards.Governments have been ignoring Gods standards for centuries so why the shock about this when homosexuality has been around for centuries.Simply understand that the nations including our own will go by their own standards not the standards of God.This is one of the major reasons the nations including our own will be destroyed,because they go their own way not the way of God.God will deal with the nations when the time comes,so lets not try to force anyone to go Gods way that is not what God wants.I heard so many people trying to stop gay marriages from happening by getting the people to talk to their congressman to help the people stop these gay marriages from happening i choose not to try to force Gods standards on anyone and understand that God will take care of those who disobey him because of their lack of love for him.
 
M

Mitspa

Guest
we all know what God has to say on all forms of sexual immorality,which includes homosexuality,but God wants people being obedient to him out of a willful loving heart not people who are forced to obey his standards.Governments have been ignoring Gods standards for centuries so why the shock about this when homosexuality has been around for centuries.Simply understand that the nations including our own will go by their own standards not the standards of God.This is one of the major reasons the nations including our own will be destroyed,because they go their own way not the way of God.God will deal with the nations when the time comes,so lets not try to force anyone to go Gods way that is not what God wants.I heard so many people trying to stop gay marriages from happening by getting the people to talk to their congressman to help the people stop these gay marriages from happening i choose not to try to force Gods standards on anyone and understand that God will take care of those who disobey him because of their lack of love for him.
Well as a citizen of this nation, you have as much right to shape your society as any of those who want to pervert it...if you choose to do nothing and just be silent while the ungodly destroy your nation...that's on you, but many of us will not just shut up and accept the perversion of our nation, without at least making a honest lawful effort to turn this sort of evil back.
 
Mar 4, 2013
7,761
107
0
Let's all be gay and have a party. Woops, that's an old term before all these junky cliche's emerged. What's another name for odd?

And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: James 2:3

Gay used to be a term for happy, and blessed is the Bible term for being happy. Think of the beatitudes and then about this thread, and see if a regurgitation feels like happening in depths your esophagus.
 
Aug 26, 2014
392
4
0
Teach a people "if it feels good, do it", while messing with their DNA, is a cocktail for massive sinful behavior. The world has the power to make people sin now, not just promote it. The liberal church accepts such behavior..... it fits perfectly with NWO agenda.

Wake up church..... Satan has more tools in his arsenal now.
The DNA is not "messed with". Hormone therapy doesn't change DNA.
 
Aug 26, 2014
392
4
0
Defending homosexuality is a rationalization process by which people attempt to normalize deviant choices that cannot be justified through any psychological exercise. This is simply an attempt to placate a conscience that cannot harmonize the thing one desires and the moral limitations that prohibit the behavior. Homosexuality is not a biological issue, it is a sin issue. It is not socially acceptable behavior, it is a social and moral disgrace. Homosexuality is not an illness nor is it some type of genetic abnormality and is certainly not engineered biologically at birth. Homosexuals are NOT born gay. This is nothing more than an attempt to appeal to the scientific community and call them as a witness against the defense of scripture to defend this perverted behavior. Homosexuality is a learned behavior and a matter of choice, not a predilection. There is no "pride" in it, nor should it be afforded any measure of dignity. Homosexuality is SIN and in the end it will destroy all who engage in it or stand in its defense. Attempting to explain it away scientifically is simply an attempt to excuse the behavior and marginalize it's shame.
You're right in what you say, however, many homosexuals have learned this behaviour through events that occurred while they were growing up.
I've spoken with quite a few of them, since I've worked with many. Quite a few of them will admit privately that they had issues with absent/abusive fathers, sexual abuse, overbearing mothers, etc. They need to hear the truth, but then they also need discipleship and a supportive attitude after hearing the truth. Merely handing them a tract and telling them they're on their own (which seems to be the attitude of many Christians these days) simply won't work with many of them. I've known some who are quietly screaming for help, yet receive none.
 
Aug 26, 2014
392
4
0
Besides, Christians aren't taught what to say, but how to think and reason and know what they believe and grow in relationship with Christ and each other. At least that's the way it should be.
I put in bold the most important part. Church life has sometimes taught me differently, however. Too many people will blindly accept the pastor's word or the prevailing attitude of the moment. We need to be grounded in the Word.
 
Aug 26, 2014
392
4
0
3) Biologically..
This in my personal opinion I believe holds a degree of significance in the whole matter for it harmonises and seeks to sympathise with genuine struggles of the homosexual. Unfortunately the field of biology has not come to a complete conclusion with regards to homosexual behaviours and acts but none the less does have credence and input within the controversy.
I have done little research in the biological field of homosexuality and have come into encounter with Christians who are biologists and have willingly concluded that amongst the homosexual community, there is indeed a minority of homosexuals who are in fact biologically wired a different way. Again I emphasise a MINORITY! This is to say that some who genuinely struggles his or her whole life with this issue could possibly and I say possibly, be biologically disordered, and wired differently to which he/she has the identity crisis. This process that occurs within a person would of have to have it at a very young age, and would never really have questioned it until the time where social normalities and cultural stigmas influence the persons life (usually around teenage years). Again reinforced here is that amongst the biological field and community homosexuality would ,(and to some conclusively) be considered a disorder and therefore would not be violating at least any direct sinful act against God. This gives biological homosexuals the opportunity to live and integrate without fear of persecution and judgement for the science will make that evident.
Now I constantly want to reassure that when we are talking about homosexuality and homosexuals most and most are choosing the lifestyle for pure selfish and lustful reasons, which is the case most times, and that actually can be broadened beyond homosexuals themselves to well any group or in fact the whole human race for that matter. Sometimes even Christians choose lifestyles that are displeasing to God. But when we talk about those who really do struggle, and fit the category of biologically disordered then we mustn't be quick to assume that they are lying, and are covering up their undisguised lusts or passions. It could so happen to be that, that person actually is biologically disordered a different way that the normal human make and "status quo" is. Therefore we shouldn't judge at all personally a person who claims to be a homosexual for we do not have the luxury of seeing the heart, wherein God does.
In fact I believe homosexuality as a lifestyle choice is a sin, but I could and never will know the heart of the person going through with it, therefore we as Christians should reserve our judgements, and criticisms, against all homosexuals for the sake of the minority who are actually homosexual by disorder. Just preach the gospel as you would do to anyone!!!! Let God be the judge. :)
Where's number four??
You left me hanging!!!!!
 
Mar 4, 2013
7,761
107
0
The worship of Baal included offering of incense and sacrifice—including human sacrifice. However, Baal worship was chiefly marked by fertility rites. It was believed that Baal made the land, animals, and humans fertile. In other words, Baal was seen as the god of “sacred sexuality.” To encourage the god to carry out these functions, worshippers would perform lewd sexual acts. Baal temples were filled with male and female prostitutes for such purposes.

The female consort to Baal was Ashtoreth. This goddess was also associated with sexuality and fertility. The worship of Ashtoreth also included obscene sex acts. Israel forsook the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and served “Baal and the Ashtoreths.” (Judges 2:11-23).

A third rival to the one true God was Molech (or Molek), the god of the Ammonites. The worship of Molech included the fire sacrifice of infant children. Ashtoreth is also seen as the female consort to Molech. Dr. Jeffrey Satinover describes the relationship between the “virgin-whore who copulates and conceives, but does not give birth (Ashtoreth) [and] the god to whom the unwanted offspring of these practices were sacrificed (Molech).”

Recently, a Christian man--Theodore Shoebat, who runs shoebat.com--exposed the hypocrisy (and frequent vulgarites) of the militant homosexual agenda. Mr. Shoebat called 13 gay-owned bakeries and asked them to bake a pro-biblical marriage cake. All refused. Some used deviant vulgarities in their rebuff of Mr. Shoebat.

Recall that a Christian-owned bakery was successfully sued when they refused to provide a cake with the message "Support Gay Marriage" on it. I have well chronicled the wide variety of Christian businesses that have suffered the wrath of the homosexual agenda, and our foolish courts who have, for the most part, supported this perverse agenda.

Will these "intolerant" pro-homosexual businesses be held to the same standards as the Christian-owned businesses? Don't count on it. As is typical with the tenants of liberalism, it's never really about truth and justice. It's about furthering the liberal agenda, by whatever means necessary.

Ancient pagan practices also are observed today in "abortion rights" and the so called "freedom of choice." If "Planned Parenthood" can sell human baby parts, does abortion convert the unborn baby into a non-human? Dah!!!
 
Last edited: