Gifts - "Dreams"

[ember]

Closest thing I can think of is Joel 2 but that is prophecy and it is to Israel not to all the world. It is also for a specific time and place not everyday and all the time.

Not that I expect that to have any influence on those who will defend to the end their dreams.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

I sure hope you don't have any influence, because the Bible has many examples of God speaking to people in dreams

To read your quote, one would get the impression that it hardly ever happened

And Joel is not speaking of a gift of dreams because there is no such thing


Genesis 20:3-5
But God came to Abimelech in a dream one night and said to him, “You are as good as dead because of the woman you have taken; she is a married woman.” Now Abimelech had not gone near her, so he said, “Lord, will you destroy an innocent nation? Did he not say to me, ‘She is my sister,’ and didn’t she also say, ‘He is my brother’? I have done this with a clear conscience and clean hands”


Genesis 41:1-7
Now it happened at the end of two full years that Pharaoh had a dream, and behold, he was standing by the Nile. And lo, from the Nile there came up seven cows, sleek and fat; and they grazed in the marsh grass. Then behold, seven other cows came up after them from the Nile, ugly and gaunt, and they stood by the other cows on the bank of the Nile



Judges 7:13-15
When Gideon came, behold, a man was relating a dream to his friend. And he said, "Behold, I had a dream; a loaf of barley bread was tumbling into the camp of Midian, and it came to the tent and struck it so that it fell, and turned it upside down so that the tent lay flat." His friend replied, "This is nothing less than the sword of Gideon the son of Joash, a man of Israel; God has given Midian and all the camp into his hand." When Gideon heard the account of the dream and its interpretation, he bowed in worship. He returned to the camp of Israel and said, "Arise, for the LORD has given the camp of Midian into your hands."

1 Kings 3:4-15
The king went to Gibeon to sacrifice there, for that was the great high place; Solomon offered a thousand burnt offerings on that altar. In Gibeon the LORD appeared to Solomon in a dream at night; and God said, "Ask what you wish me to give you." Then Solomon said, "You have shown great lovingkindness to Your servant David my father, according as he walked before You in truth and righteousness and uprightness of heart toward You; and You have reserved for him this great lovingkindness, that You have given him a son to sit on his throne, as it is this day.

Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Joseph(Matthew 1:20;2:13): Joseph would have divorced Mary when he found out she was pregnant, but God sent an angel to him in a dream, convincing him that the pregnancy was of God. Joseph went ahead with the marriage. After Jesus was born, God sent two more dreams, one to tell Joseph to take his family to Egypt so Herod could not kill Jesus and another to tell him Herod was dead and that he could return home.

Pilate's wife(Matthew 27:19): During Jesus’ trial, Pilate’s wife sent an urgent message to the governor encouraging him to free Jesus. Her message was prompted by a dream she had—a nightmare, really—that convinced her that Jesus was innocent and that Pilate should have nothing to do with His case.


Joseph(Matthew 1:20;2:13): Joseph would have divorced Mary when he found out she was pregnant, but God sent an angel to him in a dream, convincing him that the pregnancy was of God. Joseph went ahead with the marriage. After Jesus was born, God sent two more dreams, one to tell Joseph to take his family to Egypt so Herod could not kill Jesus and another to tell him Herod was dead and that he could return home.

Pilate's wife(Matthew 27:19): During Jesus’ trial, Pilate’s wife sent an urgent message to the governor encouraging him to free Jesus. Her message was prompted by a dream she had—a nightmare, really—that convinced her that Jesus was innocent and that Pilate should have nothing to do with His case.

 

[Miri]

Hi ember I am with you in this one.

This is one of those subjects where unless people have experienced
these dreams for themselves, they will struggle to understand.

 

[PeterJens]

I have a problem with dreams and visions. The answer is they can be very miss-leading and must be dealt with cautiously.

A pastor of my church had got very paranoid and could not trust or encourage people in the congregation.
I had a dream that he was in effect blocking peoples expression of their gifts and love, and the church was loosing out.

Now this man relied heavily on a woman who was very sincere but also very driven by defined rules or ideas of what a christian was or was not. She had a vision of snakes in the cretch biting the children. It was interpreted that there was some spiritual oppression that needed dealing with. My feeling was it was 100% inappropriate, and linked to something unhelpful to do with this woman in particular and should not have been shared.

The problem is dreams are mainly emotional replays of what is going on in you during the day, and reflect how you are reacting to your circumstance.

Now God used dreams under Joseph to change his life and warn Pharoah of a coming famine. So they can be very important, but must be tested. The problem is it can end up people invest more confidence in dreams or visions from the special group than what is really happening in their spiritual lives.

Peter was given a dream to go over to a place to meet a gentile which led to the inclusion of gentiles into the church.

Interestingly we are not called to desire dreams or ask for them. This is my experience for what it is worth,
God bless you

 

[Shannon50]

I do believe that God can choose to speak to his children in many ways; he reveals himself to us and manifests himself in ways he chooses.

I have had one experience in a dream that I would classify as a vision from the Lord; this wasn't a prophesy for Future events, but a way that he used to encourage me in a very personal way.

Eric Metaxes, was an atheist, and his dream/ vision from God was what convinced him for the Cause of Christ (you can watch it on iamsecond.com)

My relationship with the Lord is a very personal one; I believe he sometimes needs to speak to his children in very personal ways, in order to convict us, or urge us, or encourage us. I do agree that it is important to confirm these with the Word.

 

[Miri]

Dreams are one (and there are many) of the ways God communicates with people,
like anything it needs to be weighed up. One thing I would say is that I have
never have a godly dream which contradicts the bible or gives some new
revelation for example like Joseph Smith or Mohamed etc. Whenever discussions
about dreams come along, people seem to automatically think this refers to
new prophetic revelation and it doesn't, at least not in my experience.

There has been times I have received understanding about a biblical principal
in a dream (for example God showed me in a dream the Holy Spirit was a person).
I have also had dreams about future events to come in my own life which have
been true and also warnings.


These dreams are far more than just random events in the brain due to eating
too much cheese. I think actually that if people were more open to them, then
God would speak to more people like this. Maybe for me I just have to be
unconscious for God to get through to me.

Dreams can achieve so much more than you might ever imagine. I was healed
of my sleep walking in a dream. I use to regular go sleep walking up to
4 nights a week, sometimes 2-3 times the same night. I use to get up to all
sorts of strange things, one time I thought I smelled gas and when I woke up
i found myself stood in front of the gas cooker fiddling with the gas taps! So it
was starting to get a bit dangerous.


Then one night I had a godly dream in which I was in bed and a silky floaty light
blue small blanket came fluttering down on top of me. Over the years I have come
to recognise this blue symbolism refers to the Holy Spirit, it has appeared in many
dreams. In the dream just before it touched me, i dived out of bed grabbed it
wrapped it around me and began twirling around the bedroom floor. I then woke
up to find myself stood in the middle of the bedroom wrapped in my quilt!

By by now you are probably thinking she's nuts after all, but you know what,
my sleep walking stopped instantly after that night and I believe i was healed
of it in that dream. The sleep walking had gone on for over 10 years before
that dream. Praise God.

 

[ember]

Hi ember I am with you in this one.

This is one of those subjects where unless people have experienced
these dreams for themselves, they will struggle to understand.

we all dream....its a natural process

however, we may receive a dream wherein God is actually saying something...probably the exception

Joseph had a gift...interpretation...I guess we could compare that to the gift of knowledge maybe in the NT?

anyway, there certainly is no such thing as the 'gift of dreams' LOL!

It really does not matter what opinions people have...the Bible is pretty clear on the subject

 

[wincam]

we all dream....its a natural process

however, we may receive a dream wherein God is actually saying something...probably the exception

Joseph had a gift...interpretation...I guess we could compare that to the gift of knowledge maybe in the NT?

anyway, there certainly is no such thing as the 'gift of dreams' LOL!

It really does not matter what opinions people have...the Bible is pretty clear on the subject

the Bible is pretty clear that an angel sent by God may appear or speak with the authority of God but not God Himself - see jN.1:18/5:37/6:46/1Tim 6:16 - wincam

 

[notuptome]

I sure hope you don't have any influence, because the Bible has many examples of God speaking to people in dreams

To read your quote, one would get the impression that it hardly ever happened

And Joel is not speaking of a gift of dreams because there is no such thing


Genesis 20:3-5
But God came to Abimelech in a dream one night and said to him, “You are as good as dead because of the woman you have taken; she is a married woman.” Now Abimelech had not gone near her, so he said, “Lord, will you destroy an innocent nation? Did he not say to me, ‘She is my sister,’ and didn’t she also say, ‘He is my brother’? I have done this with a clear conscience and clean hands”


Genesis 41:1-7
Now it happened at the end of two full years that Pharaoh had a dream, and behold, he was standing by the Nile. And lo, from the Nile there came up seven cows, sleek and fat; and they grazed in the marsh grass. Then behold, seven other cows came up after them from the Nile, ugly and gaunt, and they stood by the other cows on the bank of the Nile



Judges 7:13-15
When Gideon came, behold, a man was relating a dream to his friend. And he said, "Behold, I had a dream; a loaf of barley bread was tumbling into the camp of Midian, and it came to the tent and struck it so that it fell, and turned it upside down so that the tent lay flat." His friend replied, "This is nothing less than the sword of Gideon the son of Joash, a man of Israel; God has given Midian and all the camp into his hand." When Gideon heard the account of the dream and its interpretation, he bowed in worship. He returned to the camp of Israel and said, "Arise, for the LORD has given the camp of Midian into your hands."

1 Kings 3:4-15
The king went to Gibeon to sacrifice there, for that was the great high place; Solomon offered a thousand burnt offerings on that altar. In Gibeon the LORD appeared to Solomon in a dream at night; and God said, "Ask what you wish me to give you." Then Solomon said, "You have shown great lovingkindness to Your servant David my father, according as he walked before You in truth and righteousness and uprightness of heart toward You; and You have reserved for him this great lovingkindness, that You have given him a son to sit on his throne, as it is this day.

Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Joseph(Matthew 1:20;2:13): Joseph would have divorced Mary when he found out she was pregnant, but God sent an angel to him in a dream, convincing him that the pregnancy was of God. Joseph went ahead with the marriage. After Jesus was born, God sent two more dreams, one to tell Joseph to take his family to Egypt so Herod could not kill Jesus and another to tell him Herod was dead and that he could return home.

Pilate's wife(Matthew 27:19): During Jesus’ trial, Pilate’s wife sent an urgent message to the governor encouraging him to free Jesus. Her message was prompted by a dream she had—a nightmare, really—that convinced her that Jesus was innocent and that Pilate should have nothing to do with His case.


Joseph(Matthew 1:20;2:13): Joseph would have divorced Mary when he found out she was pregnant, but God sent an angel to him in a dream, convincing him that the pregnancy was of God. Joseph went ahead with the marriage. After Jesus was born, God sent two more dreams, one to tell Joseph to take his family to Egypt so Herod could not kill Jesus and another to tell him Herod was dead and that he could return home.

Pilate's wife(Matthew 27:19): During Jesus’ trial, Pilate’s wife sent an urgent message to the governor encouraging him to free Jesus. Her message was prompted by a dream she had—a nightmare, really—that convinced her that Jesus was innocent and that Pilate should have nothing to do with His case.

Hebrews 1 defines the profound change that took place when God fulfilled His promise to send His Redeemer to save man from his sin.

The divers and sundry ways in which God spoke in the past are now complete in His Son.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[ember]

Hebrews 1 defines the profound change that took place when God fulfilled His promise to send His Redeemer to save man from his sin.

The divers and sundry ways in which God spoke in the past are now complete in His Son.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

well, as you say, it's not up to you

You seem to be utterly dismissive of the scriptures.....that, is what I refer to as 'unbelief'

 

[wincam]

well, as you say, it's not up to you

You seem to be utterly dismissive of the scriptures.....that, is what I refer to as 'unbelief'

of course it just has to be God, nothing else is good enough or will do - even Joseph and Mary and others were only good enough angel material - btw was it a loud masculine voice or a soft feminine voice or was it no voice at all but just imagination - wincam

 

[notuptome]

well, as you say, it's not up to you

You seem to be utterly dismissive of the scriptures.....that, is what I refer to as 'unbelief'

A classic example of self indictment if ever I witnessed one.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[wincam]

of course it just has to be God, nothing else is good enough or will do - even Joseph and Mary and others were only good enough angel material - btw was it a loud masculine voice or a soft feminine voice or was it no voice at all but just imagination - wincam

that is why the question was asked in the first place so that one could then judge whether our dreams are real or not or just imagination - wincam

 

[ember]

A classic example of self indictment if ever I witnessed one.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

no explanations, no pertinent scripture, just biased one liners flung with no intention other then evading what cannot be explained

whatever...it's still not up to you, but at least you recognize it

the fact is, you dismiss both testaments in your conclusions regarding dreams which is actually your conclusion regarding anything you can't accomplish with a good pair of reading glasses and a concordance or two

here: meet wincam

of course it just has to be God, nothing else is good enough or will do - even Joseph and Mary and others were only good enough angel material - btw was it a loud masculine voice or a soft feminine voice or was it no voice at all but just imagination - wincam

you may have a little more in common

 

[pwrnJC]

First of all, the NINE spiritual gifts listed by PAUL edify CHRIST. GOD gives them to people who will take them and win souls for HIM. A particular talent or unique spiritual gift introduces others to CHRIST. DREAMS are not part of that equation. You cannot dream your way to heaven, you cannot insist that others must DREAM as a spiritual sign that they are filled with the Holy Spirit. However...Dreams can be and are listed in the BIBLE as a ways and means that GOD can use to guide, direct, abort a situation and such. They are just a mechanism only...a venue that GOD can reach out through. However, satan is a mimic and a liar and he loves to imitate. We do not, initually, want to put tons of stock into a dream..for it can be a dart used by satan. We will know in our spirit if a dream is directed by GOD..and to be perfectly honest..even if the dream is from satan, the funny thing is..GOD can twist it around for HIS glory. Dreams are real, and they can certainly change history..but dreams are not a GIFT....

 

[biblicaltruth15]

Of course dreams are real! God still talks to earthly humans today the way he does long ago with the members of the early church and He does it through dreams. The fact is that we do not always listen. Not that we do not want to listen, but cuz majority do not understand His language, i mean the dream language which are dark sayings. In other words, unplain words.

Since He is a Spirit and we are mortals, the only means of communicating with us is through our spirit and this can be achieved only while we are sleeping cuz thats when our body relaxes as the spirit is open to contact with other spiritual being. In this way, different valuable informations can be downloaded into ones memory concerning future occurrences which may sometimes involves you, close friends, farmily member, natural desasters and so on.

Also, most of these dreams can come as warnings, advices, encouragement, judgements, victories, and so on. I do dream alot. Many of them i interpreted alone by the help of the holy spirit and they were fulfilled exactly like how i expected it to turn out. Though few i wasn`t able to interprete as they were too mixed-up and complicated. Cuz of my many dreams and their fulfillment, i have gained much experience in understanding the dream languages. I mean, like the symbols in which they are frequently presented.

It is also true that some dreams are meaningless (Isaiah 29:7-8) but as soon as one has a significant dream, your conscience will give you signs that the dream holds an important message. I dream almost everyday and these dreams have saved me from many troubles. Although some i ignored and i paid dearly for the stupidity I haven`t been to the USA before, but the first time i heard of PENNSYLVANIA, was in a dream.

In the dream, i heard the pronounciation from a voice that made me understood was the voice of GOd. But i couldn`t even spelt it correctly cuz i never saw that name before in my life. When i wöke up, all i remembered of the name was "PENSUVANIA". Now, because of my strong belief for dreams, i did some searching and was surprised to discovered that this name which i heard in a dream is actually a state in the USA. Though i was made to understood that it is in the USA.

So friends, always pay keen attention to your dreams cuz it may me that the Lord Jesus is talking to you through one of His angels. (Numbers 12:4-8) Thanks and God bless you all.