God or Guns?

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iog

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Now let me address the 1776 crowd

This is 2013

And what is coming upon this earth 1776 can't hold a candle to, you will wish you were in that time.

Pay very close attention to the next set of verses especially those who think they can stick enough goods for 3.5 years of great tribulation

Don't be fooled by people who speak by emotions if you believe God's word then take heed to this warning by Jesus

Matthew 24:15,21 (KJV)
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) [21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Why would you even think that you weapon or your storage of food would work

Think of the most hideous time upon this earth and the Great tribulation be 10 times worse
 
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iog

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RickShafer said:
iog - black Rick - red.

Rick why are you reading it? Do someone have a gun to your head forcing you to participate?
Funny analogy, since you equate guns with evil. - (Evil intent on your part there?)

 I must have put some very convincing bible verses for you to post what you said.
Nope, I've never seen such misappropriation of scripture.Thats why I answered.

A servant of God don't need a weapon of death when they carry the words of Life
Protection isn't death, protection is prevention of murder, rape, assault, and other works of darkness.

It's that simple.
"Simple" is the operative term here.
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Death is evil
Guns= death

Guns don't =life
Jesus is life

A servant of God trust is in Jesus

Jesus is our Father
Jesus is our king

A father and a king protects his children and subjects
 
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Abiding

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iamsoandso said:
A rock is a useful thing, David found himself a useful rock. He put it in the sling and swirled it about and let it fly.,,,,,,,A gun,,well invokes a thought of violence towards man,but it is also a useful tool. It is most forgotten that as if it were used as a tool it will set food on your plate. It will explain to a bear why to run. It will keep raccoon's and skunks away from the chickens.I would suppose even a plow seems violent to the ground. It in reality is no more than a hammer or a screwdriver it is a tool.

from Able whom was slain in the field "without a gun" to my lord whom they beat and set down on an tree and with a hammer and nails slew for the many,,"let these confess the tools of an murderer". And the lair who slew the masses with words,"let us pass legislation to ban the devil". Ban the box cutters and there will be no more hijackings. If we cut off one of every man's hand's there will be no more "Boston strangler's".,,,,,,,,,,,,"ban the murderers,,ban the graves,,,lest the murderers come in the end and bury many of you alive",,,,

But do remember your faith,it is not ill placed to trust in the lord for protection. Pray every day and forgive those who trespass against you. And every day ask for forgiveness,and remain not in sin. When times come,and a great tribulation will come,take your tools,your gun and hammer,the nails and your hope. And separate yourselves as far from the evil as you may go,and the lord will bless you.
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iog

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Who told you that you need a gun? God or man

Joshua 1:9 (KJV)
Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

All over the bible The Lord said not to be afraid

Job 5:19-22 (KJV)
He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. [20] In famine he shall redeem thee from death: and in war from the power of the sword. [21] Thou shalt be hid from the scourge of the tongue: neither shalt thou be afraid of destruction when it cometh. [22] At destruction and famine thou shalt laugh: neither shalt thou be afraid of the beasts of the earth.
 
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iog said:
Death is evil
Guns= death

Guns don't =life
Jesus is life

A servant of God trust is in Jesus

Jesus is our Father
Jesus is our king

A father and a king protects his children and subjects
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Jesus death=life
therefore death=life



watch my logic:

bagals=yum
cherries=yum
bagals=cherries " rollyeyes"
 
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iog

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Why would a saved person need a gun? Why would a born again person need a gun?


Psalm 3:6-8 (KJV)
I will not be afraid of ten thousands of people, that have set themselves against me round about. [7] Arise, O Lord ; save me, O my God: for thou hast smitten all mine enemies upon the cheek bone; thou hast broken the teeth of the ungodly. [8] Salvation belongeth unto the Lord : thy blessing is upon thy people. Selah.
 
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iog

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Abiding said:
Jesus death=life
therefore death=life



watch my logic:

bagals=yum
cherries=yum
bagals=cherries " rollyeyes"
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That's the best you can do?

You can't present a logical intelligent argument for your position.

Don't get emotional on me!
 
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Therapon

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iog said:
Follow me
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iog said:

Is Jesus is your shield and buckler or is your weapon?

Exodus 20:2-3 (KJV)
I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. [3] Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Again who is your protector Jesus or will you put something before him
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George Washington and the many Christian brethren who died at Bunker Hill didn't agree with you. Neither did the two thousand more, freezing, ill clothed and starving, who died at Valley Forge. Untold numbers died in the Civil war, the Spanish-American war, in both World Wars, in Korea, in Vietnam, Iraq and those who are dying in Afghanistan today don't agree with you either, but they defend your right to hide behind the shield our guns provide. And on the individual level, Benjamin Franklin wisely said, "Take arms from the people and mischeif will soon follow."
 
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iog

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We are to walk as Jesus walked

Where is his weapon?
 
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iog

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Therapon said:


George Washington and the many Christian brethren who died at Bunker Hill didn't agree with you. Neither did the two thousand more, freezing, ill clothed and starving, who died at Valley Forge. Untold numbers died in the Civil war, the Spanish-American war, in both World Wars, in Korea, in Vietnam, Iraq and those who are dying in Afghanistan today don't agree with you either, but they defend your right to hide behind the shield our guns provide. And on the individual level, Benjamin Franklin wisely said, "Take arms from the people and mischeif will soon follow."
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Let me ask you this

When Israel consulted with The Lord to go out to fight who went before Israel to the battle ?

And when Israel went up the battle was won!

Now the Lord told them when they were in obedience that he would deliver the enemy into their hands


In the battles you mentioned what do we have common on both sides


DEATH

The wages of sin is death
 
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iog

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When John the Baptist was killed who committed the sin?

Because of sin the righteous died

Is George Washington greater than John the baptist

Where was John weapon?
 
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iog

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Here is our problem


John 8:6-7 (KJV)
This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not . [7] So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.


We have chosen death over life
We have chosen the gun over Jesus

Romans 12:19 (KJV)
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Who does revenge belong to?

Once you give your other cheek to be smitten
 
RickShafer

RickShafer

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His weapon is the sword of the Spirit that proceeds from His mouth, (Words of Life). - Rev. 19
He told His followers to go and buy swords-(from His mouth, out of which proceeds the Words of Life).
Swords were the 'gun' of the day:

Luke 22:36 King James Version (KJV) :
36 "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip:
and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
 
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iog

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Jesus is awesome listen to these words

Isaiah 59:1-4 (KJV)
Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: [2] But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. [3] For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness. [4] None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

Use that gun and your hands will be stained with blood
 
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iog

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RickShafer said:
His weapon is the sword of the Spirit that proceeds from His mouth, (Words of Life). - Rev. 19
He told His followers to go and buy swords-(from His mouth, out of which proceeds the Words of Life).
Swords were the 'gun' of the day:

Luke 22:36 King James Version (KJV) :
36 "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip:
and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
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Is it swords?

Because I read that he tells his servants to be harmless as dove

Matthew 10:17-20 (KJV)
But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; [18] And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. [19] But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. [20] For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

I've never heard of a dove killing another bird

Maybe they do I have to do some research
 
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Abiding

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iog said:
That's the best you can do?

You can't present a logical intelligent argument for your position.

Don't get emotional on me!
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ok sowy:eek: ill try again


emotional=illogical unintelligent arguemental position
i wasnt emotional=logical intelligent position
therefore:

your post=a bagal
 
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iog

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Is Jesus double talking

Should we get guns/swords or should we be harmless as doves?

Is Jesus sending them out to teach or fight/ kill?
 
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iog

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Abiding said:
ok sowy:eek: ill try again


emotional=illogical unintelligent arguemental position
i wasnt emotional=logical intelligent position
therefore:

your post=a bagal
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It may be but you are here reading every word.
 
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Abiding

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RickShafer said:
His weapon is the sword of the Spirit that proceeds from His mouth, (Words of Life). - Rev. 19
He told His followers to go and buy swords-(from His mouth, out of which proceeds the Words of Life).
Swords were the 'gun' of the day:

Luke 22:36 King James Version (KJV) :
36 "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip:
and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
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I agree and He at times walked through crowds and once He knocked over a bunch of troops.
Show me how to do that......im all for it.
 
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jkalyna

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Abiding said:
ok sowy:eek: ill try again


emotional=illogical unintelligent arguemental position
i wasnt emotional=logical intelligent position
therefore:

your post=a bagal
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IT'S ONLY METAL, WE COULD OUT THINK IT.
 
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