God or Guns?

[Abiding]

Sister

you could not be my wife because you pout you lust before your faith in Jesus

My house hold is protected by the Lord he has his hedge around me and my household

now if I grow weak in Faith then I would put my faith in a gun

until then vengeance is the Lord and not you!

trust in God and you and your children will come to NO harm.

do you believe that God can protect you and your household?

by you post it do not sound like it.

You think your faith alone will obligate God to save your skin? Why? I mean certainly
i say trust Him, but in no way do u require Him to do what you want.

Heres some that were commended for their faith:

5 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. 37 They were stoned; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated-- 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground. 39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. 40 God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

 

[Ariel82]

so you will blast a thief away in love?

you will use a assault rifle on a 25 year old for stealing your cell phone.

most people will use there firearm out of anger

I would injure them if I thought they were intent on injuring others to steal. perhaps after I tied them up I would ask them why they felt the need to steal at all as we wait for the authorities to arrive.

perhaps we could discuss other legal ways for them to obtain their goals without resorting to crime.

I would show the 25 year old that stealing cell phones could be harmful for their health and detain them until the police arrived.

rather I used a gun or not would depend on the situation.

anger or fear tends to mess up your aim.

Love isn't letting people get away with doing whatever they want. Its teaching them the wisdom of following God's will.

allowing someone to steal from you sends the wrong message: they don't need to work for what they want, they can just take it with no immediate consequences.

manners and respect for others goes a long way. IF he was starving, I would expect an apology and then give him food and allow him to go his way. However if all he wanted was a cell phone, I would feel inclined to teach him manners and the value of hard work.

Exodus 20:15 “You shall not steal.

Leviticus 19:11 ‘You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another.

1. Deuteronomy 5:19 ‘You shall not steal.
2. Proverbs 6:30 People do not despise a thief If he steals to satisfy himself when he is starving.

 

[PS]

until you are a US citizen, i wish you would be quiet.
what possible difference could our laws make to you?

really?

They difference it makes to me is that people throw all this back at me and say they want nothing to do with Christians or Christianity.

Ordinary people who are not Christians are disgusted by all this and we are supposed to set the example.

 

[zone]

Would you use a kitchen knife Zone?

whatever means necessary.
clear enough?

you're either not a parent or you're a wimpy one.

LOUD AND CLEAR: i will not stand and watch while anyone harms my children and claim it's the right thing to do.

Capish?

 

[Abiding]

ive decided after reading most of this thread if i get in a
pinch....im gonna call out for a woman to lend me some help.

 

[PS]

whatever means necessary.
clear enough?

you're either not a parent or you're a wimpy one.

OK, so seeing as you say guns don't kill, you won't mind if they get banned then.

 

[zone]

OK, so seeing as you say guns don't kill, you won't mind if they get banned then.

i live in Kanada comrade.
they're already banned here.

that's why it would be me with a kitchen knife up against a thug with a gun < CRIMINALS DON'T OBEY GUN LAWS - hello????

what do you think my odds are?

these are still legal.
like i said.
goodbye kneecaps. if i feel like aiming.

and like i said: you're clearly not a parent.

 

[Ariel82]

OK, so seeing as you say guns don't kill, you won't mind if they get banned then.

your statement is illogical and just plan awful.

1. she never said guns don't kill.

I on the other hands said you can shoot someone without killing them but if you have a gun you should keep that option open if it becomes necessary to keep someone from kill other innocents. the sacrifice of one life for the sake of many.

2. even if she did make the innane statement that "guns don't kill" (as if anyone would say that) than how do you get that he/she would not "mind if they get banned"?

that doesn't make any sense. the whole statements were how guns could be used to help keep law and order.

you seem fixated on how guns kills but others in the world can see the bigger picture.

 

[Abiding]

They difference it makes to me is that people throw all this back at me and say they want nothing to do with Christians or Christianity.

Ordinary people who are not Christians are disgusted by all this and we are supposed to set the example.

Did u really say this? Christians are the ones with the guns and the unbelievers are the ones that dont?
And your ashamed? hmmmm You really think thats the reason they dont want to be a Christian? or be around them? amazing!!

 

[psychomom]

They difference it makes to me is that people throw all this back at me and say they want nothing to do with Christians or Christianity.

Ordinary people who are not Christians are disgusted by all this and we are supposed to set the example.

and just how many 'ordinary people' do you personally know in the US?

 

[PS]

i live in Kanada comrade.
they're already banned here.

that's why it would be me with a kitchen knife up against a thug with a gun < CRIMINALS DON'T OBEY GUN LAWS - hello????

what do you think my odds are?

these are still legal.
like i said.
goodbye kneecaps. if i feel like aiming.

and like i said: you're clearly not a parent.

The way mothers protect their young I would say the odds of you coming out on top are quite good
but it is because criminals don't obey gun laws, that guns need crushing which is the best protection ever.

 

[Abiding]

i live in Kanada comrade.
they're already banned here.

that's why it would be me with a kitchen knife up against a thug with a gun < CRIMINALS DON'T OBEY GUN LAWS - hello????

what do you think my odds are?

these are still legal.
like i said.
goodbye kneecaps. if i feel like aiming.

and like i said: you're clearly not a parent.

wonder if that could be modified to shoot a fish or a chip

 

[psychomom]

ive decided after reading most of this thread if i get in a
pinch....im gonna call out for a woman to lend me some help.

lol.

just stand behind us, Abiding.

'specially if our kiddos are behind us!

i don't have a gun, but scratching faces, gouging eyes...whatever it takes is what i'll do if someone threatens the safety and welfare of my little girls.
can't help it...that 'mama bear' instinct is God given.

 

[zone]

The way mothers protect their young I would say the odds of you coming out on top are quite good
but it is because criminals don't obey gun laws, that guns need crushing which is the best protection ever.

let's start with these guys:

ANARCHISTS AT G20 RIOTS:

ANARCHISTS AT G20 RIOTS ARE SECRET POLICE [RCMP] PROVOCATEURS WORKING TOWARD WORLD GUN CONFISCATION:

edit: ORDER COMING FROM THE CITY OF LONDON




ya...to serve and protect: TPTB, not us.

 

[PS]

and just how many 'ordinary people' do you personally know in the US?

These are people on the internet. Christianity has been killed stone dead here in the UK by comments like these here, and I have no answer.

 

[iog]

iog, do you know what 'meekness' even is?

the Lord Jesus was meek.
it doesn't mean He's weak.
meekness is strength under control.

for us, it means (God's) strength under God's control.
if you wish to not own a gun, please, by all means, do so!

but you don't have a right to condemn those who hold a different view.
your use of scripture to 'prove' what you believe is atrocious, frankly.

why don't you move to NYS?
i think you'd like it here.

I understand what it means
Moses was the meekess man upon the earth and a meek moses carried a staff and not a weapon
the meek man will rely on God's strength he is under God's control
a meek man will tolerate anything and everything even bullying and intimidation.

Jesus was spit upon and beaten I wonder if today's christians willtake a beating like the Lord or allow someone to spit upon them without blasting the persons face off


the strength is not in a weapon
the strength is not in emotions

 

[psychomom]

These are people on the internet. Christianity has been killed stone dead here in the UK by comments like these here, and I have no answer.

so let me get this straight...

God is so weak and powerless that people who are for the second amendment here in the US
have 'killed' the Faith in the UK?!?

hmmm...that seems a bit beyond the pale.
poor God.

 

[zone]

These are people on the internet. Christianity has been killed stone dead here in the UK by comments like these here, and I have no answer.

nonsense.
people hate The Cross.

your little SQUARE MILE is the headquarters for ALL OF THIS CHAOS.
and everybody knows it.

mind you, we have a family up here that calls the shots too.
same bunch.

 

[Abiding]

lol.

just stand behind us, Abiding.

'specially if our kiddos are behind us!

i don't have a gun, but scratching faces, gouging eyes...whatever it takes is what i'll do if someone threatens the safety and welfare of my little girls.
can't help it...that 'mama bear' instinct is God given.

just shameful omg i rekon adrenaline for some is for flight
its not the way it works in my neck of the woods.

 

[PS]

so let me get this straight...

God is so weak and powerless that people who are for the second amendment here in the US
have 'killed' the Faith in the UK?!?

hmmm...that seems a bit beyond the pale.
poor God.

I's all this talk of killing and murder. People here say if that's Christianity they want nothing to do with it.