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Well anyway what does this mean

Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever. (Genesis 3:22)


It means that Jesus didn't want his life inside man that was now under the power of death in his life that was still living inside man after the fall, to live forever in a fallen death.

Thats because before the fall of man, if man would of ate of the tree of life, it would of made no difference to the life his life living in man..

He put a sword around the tree of life to prevent them living for ever in a fallen state.

The sword wasn't there before they ate of the tree of knowledge of.good and evil

Which means they could of ate of the tree of life, and it would of made no difference because they where living forever with his life in them.
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homwardbound

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A word in your hearts,

The life the way the truth,

The life that was in Adam was God's life.

Adam was made spiritualy alive before the fall which means he was saved, after there fall all mankind became spiritual alive to the power of death.

Why, well the life that was in Adam before the fall, and after the fall was God's, and it's the same life that exists in all man because all man has fell,

Why


Jesus said the natural body never changes. in scripture this can be shown, and he said and it sown perishable but he also said where there is a natural body there is a spiritual body.

Which means man is not born spiritual dead to God but spiritual alive to the power of death


Well God Holds the power of life and death in his spirit, but the difference is he's God and his spirit can't die.

But he told man you can die,

This is because you don't hold the power of death or life God does, this is because you can't over come the knowledge of evil God can.

Man was saved before the fall and spiritualy alive and God chose to save man after the fall.

The difference being to be saved in Jesus so that ye don't fall again.

But the spirit is the same life that was saved in Adam before the fall, it's the same life Gods life, it's just been reborn in Jesus and made spiritual alive again by Jesus Jesus overcoming the power of death that now lives in all man.

This is the way the life and the truth


For truth will lead man to the divine and to surrender to God's will

Un conditional election is for the believer to because God's life still exists in the unbeliever to.

The unbeliever must be unconditional in surrendering to God's will.
from what I see from scripture is:

God breathed into Adam and Adam became a living Soul. nothing said about the Spirit yet. Yet the tree of life (Jesus the Christ) was still able to be ate from. When the fall happened, therefore, God set up a Cherubim to guard the tree of life in that Garden then. To stop anyone from eating from it then.
Therefore, believe or not believe came in to believe God or not. For if anyone ate from that tree then. People that, if ate from it then would have eternal life in them as evil forever. If that happened then evil continues does it not. and all after first born flesh birth are in need of the Spirit of God for life everlasting installed inn them by God for them in risen Son to them
Just what I see and see what you are saying God continues to love us all and wants what is best for us all thanks
 
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from what I see from scripture is:

God breathed into Adam and Adam became a living Soul. nothing said about the Spirit yet. Yet the tree of life (Jesus the Christ) was still able to be ate from. When the fall happened, therefore, God set up a Cherubim to guard the tree of life in that Garden then. To stop anyone from eating from it then.
Therefore, believe or not believe came in to believe God or not. For if anyone ate from that tree then. People that, if ate from it then would have eternal life in them as evil forever. If that happened then evil continues does it not. and all after first born flesh birth are in need of the Spirit of God for life everlasting installed inn them by God for them in risen Son to them
Just what I see and see what you are saying God continues to love us all and wants what is best for us all thanks
can you prove from scripture that man did not have the life living in them before the fall.
 
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from what I see from scripture is:

God breathed into Adam and Adam became a living Soul. nothing said about the Spirit yet. Yet the tree of life (Jesus the Christ) was still able to be ate from. When the fall happened, therefore, God set up a Cherubim to guard the tree of life in that Garden then. To stop anyone from eating from it then.
Therefore, believe or not believe came in to believe God or not. For if anyone ate from that tree then. People that, if ate from it then would have eternal life in them as evil forever. If that happened then evil continues does it not. and all after first born flesh birth are in need of the Spirit of God for life everlasting installed inn them by God for them in risen Son to them
Just what I see and see what you are saying God continues to love us all and wants what is best for us all thanks
well anyway what does this mean

Well anyway what does this mean

Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever. (Genesis 3:22)


It means that Jesus didn't want his life inside man that was now under the power of death in his life that was still living inside man after the fall, to live forever in a fallen death.

Thats because before the fall of man, if man would of ate of the tree of life, it would of made no difference to the life his life living in man..

He put a sword around the tree of life to prevent them living for ever in a fallen state.

The sword wasn't there before they ate of the tree of knowledge of.good and evil

Which means they could of ate of the tree of life, and it would of made no difference because they where living forever with his life in them.




 
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When man ate of tree he died man died and, not his life,


The life the life of Jesus still remained in man after the fall, but the life that was in man his life became controlled by power of death in his life the life of Jesus

When Jesus came back to resow his life Jesus came back to be the resurrected life so that his life could be resowed in man.
 
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Waiting for scripture please

Show me where the life was not in Adam before the fall.

Waiting

Waiting

Waiting
 
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Noone provide scripture the life was not in Adam before fall.

Deprave violation of the duty

Violation make Adam wicked before fall.

Make bad wicked

Deprave
 

posthuman

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Waiting for scripture please

Show me where the life was not in Adam before the fall.

Waiting

Waiting

Waiting
i'm not aware that anyone has made that claim.

He put a sword around the tree of life to prevent them living for ever in a fallen state.
yes

but not only to prevent, but to save - the word translated to 'guard' in English means also to keep and preserve.

God has preserved the way, so that through Christ ((What/Who is the flaming sword?)) we may enter to the Tree of The Life.


what did we think, God needs a spiritual sword and two mighty angels to keep out a puny little human??
who then is He protecting the way from? who would want to bring Adam there so he would be eternally existing in a state of death?

certain character is called the ((not "a")) serpent, hmm...


Noone provide scripture the life was not in Adam before fall.
why would anyone try to defend something no one said?
 
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Well anyway what does this mean

Well anyway what does this mean

Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever. (Genesis 3:22)


It means that Jesus didn't want his life inside man that was now under the power of death in his life that was still living inside man after the fall, to live forever in a fallen death.

Thats because before the fall of man, if man would of ate of the tree of life, it would of made no difference to the life his life living in man..

He put a sword around the tree of life to prevent them living for ever in a fallen state.

The sword wasn't there before they ate of the tree of knowledge of.good and evil

Which means they could of ate of the tree of life, and it would of made no difference because they where living forever with his life in them.
 
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In the beginning Jesus breathed his life into Adam




John 1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.
 
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In the begining Jesus chose Adam to be holy ànd blameless. In the begining God created his life in all men in Adam.

In the beginning all men was Adam

In the begining all life in all men was the life in Adam

All men have the same life

The life.
 
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yes there is only One :)

1 John 5:12​
He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
the son is the resurrected life. That re-sows his life in all man who are willing to surrender to his will in his will in his life in all men.

All men have the same life his life
 
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In the begining Jesus chose Adam to be holy ànd blameless. In the begining Jesus God created his life in all men in Adam.

In the beginning all men was Adam

In the begining all life in all men was the life in Adam

All men have the same life

The life the life of Jesus
 
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In the beginning Jesus breathed his life into Adam




John 1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.
 
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In the beginning all men was chosen to be holy and blameless.

No ifs

No buts

In beginning the life of all men was created in Adam.
 

blueluna5

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A word in your hearts,

The life the way the truth,

The life that was in Adam was God's life.

Adam was made spiritualy alive before the fall which means he was saved, after there fall all mankind became spiritual alive to the power of death.

Why, well the life that was in Adam before the fall, and after the fall was God's, and it's the same life that exists in all man because all man has fell,

Why


Jesus said the natural body never changes. in scripture this can be shown, and he said and it sown perishable but he also said where there is a natural body there is a spiritual body.

Which means man is not born spiritual dead to God but spiritual alive to the power of death


Well God Holds the power of life and death in his spirit, but the difference is he's God and his spirit can't die.

But he told man you can die,

This is because you don't hold the power of death or life God does, this is because you can't over come the knowledge of evil God can.

Man was saved before the fall and spiritualy alive and God chose to save man after the fall.

The difference being to be saved in Jesus so that ye don't fall again.

But the spirit is the same life that was saved in Adam before the fall, it's the same life Gods life, it's just been reborn in Jesus and made spiritual alive again by Jesus Jesus overcoming the power of death that now lives in all man.

This is the way the life and the truth


For truth will lead man to the divine and to surrender to God's will

Un conditional election is for the believer to because God's life still exists in the unbeliever to.

The unbeliever must be unconditional in surrendering to God's will.
I'm a little confused, but we are not God's spirit. God is a different entity.

Now God created everything and lives in everything. So in that sense... he also breathed life in us so there's a part of him there. We are made in his image, so we look like him. I believe that was done so Jesus could come down and look like himself. That's why all the demons/devil recognized him.

We are "little gods"..... but so are angels. We are called "children of God" or "son/daughter of man." Angels are called "sons of God." So I'm assuming since we're younger we're called children. Christianiese always teaches that we are above angels bc of the verse about judging angels. However I believe that is about fallen angels. I think God looks at angels as his family as well.

But.... fallen angels aka demons and the devil are not saved. They are not God's spirit and obviously reside in h***.

Likewise children of the devil are not God's spirit. God doesn't love all people. Even in the Bible he hated Cain and Esau. Cain wasn't killed but led away to where the fallen angels were and soon after nephilim were here. Nephilim were never in God's plan... hence the world flood.

I don't believe the devil has his own power. Rather he uses the spiritual laws of God to gain wealth, power, etc. The devil can only destroy by himself. People believe things like wealth is evil, but it's only evil when evil people have it. Everything good is from God.

Also unbelievers are not the same as children of the devil. A lot of unbelievers will be saved.. at some point. Children of the devil can't be bc their minds are to twisted. Take chris watts for example... he uses every verse in the Bible incorrectly and for evil. Jeffrey Dahmer. To their twisted mind they make sense, but most people can't even stomach them. The worst though are pastors who abuse Children and essentially make them turn from God bc of their abuse. There's a special place in h*** for them. They will call to God and he will tell them...."I never knew you!"

These are the weeds that grow with the wheat. And unfortunately we're stuck with them until the last days.
 
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I'm a little confused, but we are not God's spirit. God is a different entity.

Now God created everything and lives in everything. So in that sense... he also breathed life in us so there's a part of him there. We are made in his image, so we look like him. I believe that was done so Jesus could come down and look like himself. That's why all the demons/devil recognized him.

We are "little gods"..... but so are angels. We are called "children of God" or "son/daughter of man." Angels are called "sons of God." So I'm assuming since we're younger we're called children. Christianiese always teaches that we are above angels bc of the verse about judging angels. However I believe that is about fallen angels. I think God looks at angels as his family as well.

But.... fallen angels aka demons and the devil are not saved. They are not God's spirit and obviously reside in h***.

Likewise children of the devil are not God's spirit. God doesn't love all people. Even in the Bible he hated Cain and Esau. Cain wasn't killed but led away to where the fallen angels were and soon after nephilim were here. Nephilim were never in God's plan... hence the world flood.

I don't believe the devil has his own power. Rather he uses the spiritual laws of God to gain wealth, power, etc. The devil can only destroy by himself. People believe things like wealth is evil, but it's only evil when evil people have it. Everything good is from God.

Also unbelievers are not the same as children of the devil. A lot of unbelievers will be saved.. at some point. Children of the devil can't be bc their minds are to twisted. Take chris watts for example... he uses every verse in the Bible incorrectly and for evil. Jeffrey Dahmer. To their twisted mind they make sense, but most people can't even stomach them. The worst though are pastors who abuse Children and essentially make them turn from God bc of their abuse. There's a special place in h*** for them. They will call to God and he will tell them...."I never knew you!"

These are the weeds that grow with the wheat. And unfortunately we're stuck with them until the last days.
no such thing as children of the devil thats a metaphor I know this myself I know.

It means if you don't turn from your wicked ways your of the devil.

The devil can only create lying miracles.

I don't listen to such entertainment in that matter, I would make advice for you.

All life was created by him .

If people want to suggest otherwise, don't let them get a way with it.

As this is the truth

John 1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.