GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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Beta,

i am keep asking King that question to remind our brother and sister who keep quote a verse that say: not small part of the word will pass.

I agree that that all the word of God never pass, but it doesn't mean we have to do all the word of God. That is why I ask that question to give example that though not pass, old Covenant is not design for us.

10 commandment is design for Israel before crucifixion.

Now or we are under New Covenant

is that mean robbery ok, no. Under New Covenant we have to love our neighbors, and we not rob our love one

Yes we are not stealing, but not because we are under 10 C, but because we are under New Covenant or under love.

we not steal not because afraid go to jail, we are not steal because of love. This is new Covenant. Inner beauty. Doing good not because afraid of punishment, but because Jesus in our heart produce a good fruit.

we are a brand and Jesus is the vine.

Jesus say, come to me ye who labour and heavy laden, I will give you rest/sabbath.

This is is the kind of sabbath under New Covenant, real sabbath because Jesus in us.

inner sabbath, pure rest. The best rest, the highest quality of rest.
Are you having a problem with the word 'commandments' ? is that your stumbling stone ? do you think it only applies to OT ?
well...let us change the 'word commandment to the word PRINCIPLES in the NT, would that be more acceptable to you ? basically they would mean the same whether command or principle because they tell us HOW to LOVE God and neighbour ...and are equally valid in old and new Covenant. LOVING God and man are eternal and spiritual principles/commands to be upheld always !!! Rom 7 for they are holy just and good.
They have not passed with the OT but are now applied IN LOVE ! can you agree ?
 

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Blotting out the handwriting that recorded our offences
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That is not what the text says. Blotting out the handwriting to the ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;(Col 2:14 )


It is the blotting out of the handwriting to the ordinances. The record of our offences is not and never will be the handwriting to the ordinances. The Handwriting to the ordinances is in reference to the Book of the Law. Verse sixteen's mentioning of some of the Ceremonial Laws contained in it prove this. And let us also keep in mind it is only those handwritings contained in it that were against us and contrary to us that were blotted out. Those Ordinances in the Book of the Law that described what righteousness is are not against us; they are for us. Only those ordinances that dealt with when we sinned were against us and contrary to us.
 
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Not that I can not answer your question dear, but I have experience with your post.
If you could answer the scriptures that disagree with you dear I think you would have done so by now. If you believe this is not correct answer the posts and scriptures that disagree with you.

Just ignoring God's WORD that disagrees with you, does not make God's WORD go away it only shows you do not know how to respond to the scriptures sent to you, so you choose to ignore them.

I founded you change the verse remember col 2:14 blotting the handwriting ordinance, you change to blotting Moses handwriting ordinance
NO dear, this is not true are all. I only share God's WORD with you but you ignore God's WORD because you do not understand the OLD and the NEW COVENANT and nether do you want to.

NOW PROVE from the scriptures alone, that I have changed anything in God's WORD so far you have only stated your own words over God's WORD because you do not have God's WORDS to support your religion.

Here is God's WORD dear that I have posted on the meaning of COL 2:14 in post # 6806 linked CLICK ME.

NOW PROVE from God's WORD alone for all to see, that I have changed any meaning of COL 2:14. This is God's WORD not mine dear. It is you who are trying to change the meaning in order to follow your Catholic tradition that leads many to break the Commandments of GOD.

you keep saying the word never pass than when I askwhy you not kill sabbath violator, you said :you spcall for love. And Gog call Jews for hate?With that kind of argument, why you accuse other do not know OT, you demonstrate not knowing OTbecause Ellen blind your eyes dear. If you want, ask no more then 5 senten, I will show you that your believe system is not biblical
Now your just making things up now dear :).

All your questions and comments have been answered in the other posts with scripture but you choose to reject God's WORD because you do not BELIEVE it and wish to follow your tradition. You are free to do so dear. We all answer to God alone come judgement day.

DISAGREE? Please answer the posts and the scriptures in them that you ignore in order to follow your tradtion. Here I have collected all the posts that answer all your question here that you choose to ignore neither do you respond to for all to see. I have nothing to hide Jackson do you? If you do not answer the posts that you claim you can answer but have not.

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1. CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17


2. CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?

3. CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.

4. CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?

5. CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

6. CLICK HERE; THE OLD COVENANT LEADS TO THE NEW COVENANT

7. CLICK HERE; GOD’S LAWS BEFORE MOSES AND THE SABBATH IN CREATION

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Only God's Word is true dear and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the traditions of men that break the Commandments of God.

There is a lot of scripture that disagrees with you here dear. It does not look good for you come judgement day.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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Blotting out the handwriting that recorded our offences means they were scrubbed out, eradicated, done away with, do not exist, so therefore can never be remembered against us anymore, because they are lost, forgotten, and gone into the sea of His forgetfulness.

Saturday is simply a Jewish custom, based on the Jewish calendar which is erroneous.
The Sabbath DAY is HOLY TIME TO GOD Lev 23v3 the Sabbath of the Lord !HIS own time hallowed and sanctified and graciously shared with man willing to come to Him and learn from Him.
Degrading it to simply a human/jewish custom is irreverence and disrespect !!!
 

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The word for Sabbath is not in that text. The rest Jesus gives us is the Gospel rest. This we have through HIS Spirit residing in us. Because we now are experiencing the Gospel we cease from our own works as GOD did from His. GOD is Spirit HE did not enter into a spiritual rest. HE is our Spiritual Rest. GOD on the Seventh Day ceased from work. So we through Christ also cease from work as GOD did on the Seventh Day, which is the Sabbath.
Dear,

to my knowledge, sabbath mean rest.

And you say God is spiritual rest.

to me it's mean Jesus is the real sabbath or rest
 

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If you could answer the scriptures that disagree with you dear I think you would have done so by now. If you believe this is not correct answer the posts and scriptures that disagree with you.

Just ignoring God's WORD that disagrees with you, does not make God's WORD go away it only shows you do not know how to respond to the scriptures sent to you, so you choose to ignore them.



NO dear, this is not true are all. I only share God's WORD with you but you ignore God's WORD because you do not understand the OLD and the NEW COVENANT and nether do you want to.

NOW PROVE from the scriptures alone, that I have changed anything in God's WORD so far you have only stated your own words over God's WORD because you do not have God's WORDS to support your religion.

Here is God's WORD dear that I have posted on the meaning of COL 2:14 in post # 6806 linked CLICK ME.

NOW PROVE from God's WORD alone for all to see, that I have changed any meaning of COL 2:14. This is God's WORD not mine dear. It is you who are trying to change the meaning in order to follow your Catholic tradition that leads many to break the Commandments of GOD.



Now your just making things up now dear :).

All your questions and comments have been answered in the other posts with scripture but you choose to reject God's WORD because you do not BELIEVE it and wish to follow your tradition. You are free to do so dear. We all answer to God alone come judgement day.

DISAGREE? Please answer the posts and the scriptures in them that you ignore in order to follow your tradtion. Here I have collected all the posts that answer all your question here that you choose to ignore neither do you respond to for all to see. I have nothing to hide Jackson do you? If you do not answer the posts that you claim you can answer but have not.

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1. CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17


2. CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?

3. CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.

4. CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?

5. CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

6. CLICK HERE; THE OLD COVENANT LEADS TO THE NEW COVENANT

7. CLICK HERE; GOD’S LAWS BEFORE MOSES AND THE SABBATH IN CREATION

........................

Only God's Word is true dear and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the traditions of men that break the Commandments of God.

There is a lot of scripture that disagrees with you here dear. It does not look good for you come judgement day.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
dear,

i agree every scripture, why you keep say I am not agree part of the scripture?

i prove that you not agree with scripture.

Be honest dear, one time you say that you not kill sabbath violator because you call for love.

let have honest discussions dear.

let me repeat my statement.

I will respon to your question if you make it no more than 5 sentences.
 
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Dear,

to my knowledge, sabbath mean rest.

And you say God is spiritual rest.

to me it's mean Jesus is the real sabbath or rest
Seems God's WORD disagrees with you dear;

God says the Sabbath is a DAY and Jesus us the CREATOR of this day and LORD of it that he made for MANKIND (Mark 2:27-28; Matthew 12:8; Gene 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11)

You say that Jesus is the Sabbath?

So once again seems you disagree with God?

Please post the scripure that says Jesus is the Sabbath?

If you cannot dear it is you who are changing the WORD of GOD and this post is a very good example on how you ignore God's WORD and try to change the meaning so you can disobey God and not believe his WORD..

Sola Scriptura where are you?
 
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Are you having a problem with the word 'commandments' ? is that your stumbling stone ? do you think it only applies to OT ?
well...let us change the 'word commandment to the word PRINCIPLES in the NT, would that be more acceptable to you ? basically they would mean the same whether command or principle because they tell us HOW to LOVE God and neighbour ...and are equally valid in old and new Covenant. LOVING God and man are eternal and spiritual principles/commands to be upheld always !!! Rom 7 for they are holy just and good.
They have not passed with the OT but are now applied IN LOVE ! can you agree ?
beta,

i do not mine mine to use the word commandment, and yes the word never pass. But being fulfill.

the same principle, yes

for example it was animal sacrifice, now Jesus sacrifice.

The principle is same, sin must be pay by death. It was the death of animal as a shadow if the death of Jesus.

but after the real come, we not do animal sacrifice anymore

it's same principle with sabbath/ rest

Jesus give rest/sabbath, for real, so we not do the shadow anymore
 
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dear,

i agree every scripture, why you keep say I am not agree part of the scripture?

i prove that you not agree with scripture.

Be honest dear, one time you say that you not kill sabbath violator because you call for love.

let have honest discussions dear.

let me repeat my statement.
Let's indeed have an honest discussion dear saying you have prove something without proving anything does not mean you have proven anything. You have been provided scripture which is God's WORD not my words. God's WORD disagrees with you but you do not respond to it and choose to ignore it.

If you agree with scripture why do you not bleive the scriptures in the posts sent to you or respond to them? God's WORD indeed proves that you only speak your own WORDS over God's WORD dear.

ALL your questions answered here with God's WORD.

DISAGREE? Please answer the posts and the scriptures in them that you ignore in order to follow your tradtion. Here I have collected all the posts that answer all your question here that you choose to ignore neither do you respond to for all to see. I have nothing to hide Jackson do you? If you do not answer the posts that you claim you can answer but have not.

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1. CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17


2. CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?

3. CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.

4. CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?

5. CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

6. CLICK HERE; THE OLD COVENANT LEADS TO THE NEW COVENANT

7. CLICK HERE; GOD’S LAWS BEFORE MOSES AND THE SABBATH IN CREATION

........................

Only God's Word is true dear and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the traditions of men that break the Commandments of God.

There is a lot of scripture that disagrees with you here dear. It does not look good for you come judgement day.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 

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Seems God's WORD disagrees with you dear;

God says the Sabbath is a DAY and Jesus us the CREATOR of this day and LORD of it that he made for MANKIND (Mark 2:27-28; Matthew 12:8; Gene 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11)

You say that Jesus is the Sabbath?

So once again seems you disagree with God?

Please post the scripure that says Jesus is the Sabbath?

If you cannot dear it is you who are changing the WORD of GOD and this post is a very good example on how you ignore God's WORD and try to change the meaning so you can disobey God and not believe his WORD..

Sola Scriptura where are you?
dear,

I just try to say what is brother lightbearer say

He say God is spiritual rest, to me that statement mean God is the sabbath.

this is a copy of his post


The word for Sabbath is not in that text. The rest Jesus gives us is the Gospel rest. This we have through HIS Spirit residing in us. Because we now are experiencing the Gospel we cease from our own works as GOD did from His. GOD is Spirit HE did not enter into a spiritual rest. HE is our Spiritual Rest. GOD on the Seventh Day ceased from work. So we through Christ also cease from work as GOD did on the Seventh Day, which is the Sabbath.
 
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Jesus give rest/sabbath, for real, so we not do the shadow anymore
Now another good example how you change the scriptures dear...

Genesis 2
1, Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2, And ON THE SEVENTH DAY God ended his work which he had made; and he RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made.
3, And GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY, and SANCTIFIED IT <the 7th day>: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Some points to note from the scriptures...............

v1 God completed creation in 6 days and RESTED on the 7TH DAY
v2 God RESTED on the 7TH DAY
v3 God SET APART the 7TH DAY and made THE 7TH DAY a HOLY DAY
v2 The 7TH DAY is part of the FINISHED WORK of the CREATION WEEK

Once again Genesis 2:1-3 supports Exodus 20:8-11 that the Sabbath is referring to the 7TH DAY OF THE WEEK not only a REST but the REST IS LINKED to the 7TH DAY which was part of the FINISHED WORK OF THE CREATION WEEK.

Questions:


Q. When the SABBATH was made was it an UNFINISHED WORK OR A FINISHED WORK?
A. v2 FINISHED WORK. If it is it part of a FINISHED WORK then it cannot be a SHADOW OF ANYTHING because it is a FINISHED WORK!

Q. Was the Sabbath made BEFORE or AFTER SIN entered into the WORLD?
A. GENESIS 3 = THE SABBATH WAS MADE BEFORE SIN entered the WORLD. If it was made BEFORE SIN in a PERFECT CREATION in Harmony with GOD BEFORE SIN then it is not part of the PLAN of SALVATION so not a SHADOW of ANYTHING THEREFORE cannot be done away with and is not a part of something more then what it represents and that is God's as the CREATOR and GOD's CREATION.

This is where everything in you posts fail because UNLIKE the MOSAIC book of the COVENANT God's SABBATH was made BEFORE SIN entered the WORLD and BEFORE a need for God's PLAN of salvation to which the SHADOWS pointed.

NEED MORE SCRIPTURE?

3. CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.


Seems like God's WORD disagrees with you dear
 

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The word for Sabbath is not in that text. The rest Jesus gives us is the Gospel rest. This we have through HIS Spirit residing in us. Because we now are experiencing the Gospel we cease from our own works as GOD did from His. GOD is Spirit HE did not enter into a spiritual rest. HE is our Spiritual Rest. GOD on the Seventh Day ceased from work. So we through Christ also cease from work as GOD did on the Seventh Day, which is the Sabbath.
Dear,

to my knowledge, sabbath mean rest.

And you say God is spiritual rest.

to me it's mean Jesus is the real sabbath or rest
The word for Sabbath is not in the text. The verse you quoted is referring to the Gospel rest not the Sabbath. It does not say Sabbath it says rest.

You are adding what is not there. That is not our place.
 
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dear,

I just try to say what is brother lightbearer say

He say God is spiritual rest, to me that statement mean God is the sabbath.

this is a copy of his post

The word for Sabbath is not in that text. The rest Jesus gives us is the Gospel rest. This we have through HIS Spirit residing in us. Because we now are experiencing the Gospel we cease from our own works as GOD did from His. GOD is Spirit HE did not enter into a spiritual rest. HE is our Spiritual Rest. GOD on the Seventh Day ceased from work. So we through Christ also cease from work as GOD did on the Seventh Day, which is the Sabbath.
No dear, what you are saying and what LB is saying are the opposite.

Here you go dear the scriptures you ignore and keep asking questions about are answered for you here for REST....

5. CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

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Only God's Word is true dear and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the traditions of men that break the Commandments of God.

There is a lot of scripture that disagrees with you here dear. It does not look good for you come judgement day.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 

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The word for Sabbath is not in the text. The verse you quoted is referring to the Gospel rest not the Sabbath. It does not say Sabbath it says rest.

You are adding what is not there. That is not our place.
hmm I never herd what is gospel rest. Any verse that explain about what is gospel rest?
 

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That is not what the text says. Blotting out the handwriting to the ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;(Col 2:14 )

It is the blotting out of the handwriting to the ordinances. The record of our offences is not and never will be the handwriting to the ordinances. The Handwriting to the ordinances is in reference to the Book of the Law. Verse sixteen's mentioning of some of the Ceremonial Laws contained in it prove this. And let us also keep in mind it is only those handwritings contained in it that were against us and contrary to us that were blotted out. Those Ordinances in the Book of the Law that described what righteousness is are not against us; they are for us. Only those ordinances that dealt with when we sinned were against us and contrary to us.
NOUN

ordinances (plural noun)


The law under which we are found guilty has been blotted out. Removed. No longer can we be found guilty under the law.

We are REDEEMED by the blood of the lamb.
 

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hmm I never herd what is gospel rest. Any verse that explain about what is gospel rest?
Heb 4:1-3

1) Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us (the people of the writers day and us) of entering into his rest (the Gospel), any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel (His Rest) preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest (His Rest; the Gospel), as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest (the Gospel; the rest we have when Christ Jesus is our Life): although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. (the Gospel Rest has been available since Eden)

Verses 1 and 2 draw them together. The Gospel rest which is found in Christ Jesus.
 
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beta,

i do not mine mine to use the word commandment, and yes the word never pass. But being fulfill.

the same principle, yes

for example it was animal sacrifice, now Jesus sacrifice.

The principle is same, sin must be pay by death. It was the death of animal as a shadow if the death of Jesus.

but after the real come, we not do animal sacrifice anymore

it's same principle with sabbath/ rest

Jesus give rest/sabbath, for real, so we not do the shadow anymore
This may be hard for you to understand but the SABBATH (Day) principle/command is not the same as 'animal sacrifice.
Animal sacrifice demanded physical labour or work of the law for a temporary period of time and fulfilled/finished by Christ Eph 2v15; Col 2v14; no more for man to do.
Sabbath-keeping is a spiritual requirement of God starting out with NO Work allowed Ex 20v8-10...but changed to 'Good Works allowed in the NT...because Man is to continue and grow in it until WE are perfected and conformed to the image of Christ. The Commandments INCL Sabbath are not finished for man yet ...they have not yet accomplished to which God sent them !!! Isah 55v11.
 

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No dear, what you are saying and what LB is saying are the opposite.

Here you go dear the scriptures you ignore and keep asking questions about are answered for you here for REST....

5. CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

........................

Only God's Word is true dear and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the traditions of men that break the Commandments of God.

There is a lot of scripture that disagrees with you here dear. It does not look good for you come judgement day.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
Do you read a copy from LB statement?

He say God is our spiritual rest.

i do not know what to say dear, you deny that, I give you a copy.
 

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