Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

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blue_ladybug

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I'm talking about copy pasting articles on here. Ain't nobody wanna read an insanely long post, when all that's needed is a link to the article and a description..


It's more effective when proselytizing to mass produce the pamphlets rather than write each one out by hand.
 
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I'm talking about copy pasting articles on here. Ain't nobody wanna read an insanely long post, when all that's needed is a link to the article and a description..
Yeah! Just give me a link to the pamphlets when you proselytize me! :D
 

Shamah

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I will not stand silent while they try and enslave people to Mount Sinai and ignore the spiritual truths Jesus taught us.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 12:8, “For the Son of Aḏam is Master of the Sabbath.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."[/FONT]
 

Magenta

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mocking God and HIS holy day ? what did I expect from someone worshipping a false christ !
Having a different understanding of Christ and the purpose of Scripture in revealing God's plan for humanity than you does not equate to worshiping a false Christ. It may in some cases (as with those who deny the Deity of Christ), but certainly not in all.
 

Shamah

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What I disagree is what God's commandment means concerning the Sabbath.

It's not just one day a week.

Jesus tells us it's about SEEKING FIRST THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN and not worryinG about tomorrow,or what you will eat or be clothed with. Its about trusting God every day. It's about doing God's work every day.

Speaking His words every day.
Where is your verse that the Sabbath is every day, if you change the meaning of the Sabbath this is possible if you understand what SET APART is Sabbath is only the 7th day.

Unless you never have to do any work have someone do any work for you, like laundry, dishes, mowing the lawn,, etc.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 2:1-3, “Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their array. And in the seventh day the Mighty One completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And the Mighty One blessed the seventh day and set it apart, because on it He rested from all His work which the Mighty One in creating had made.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Exodus 20:8-11, “Remember the Sabbath day, to set it apart." Six days you labor, and shall do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Mighty One. You do not do any work – you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]blessed the Sabbath day and set it apart.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 58:11-14, "YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; (strengthen), your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: from doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure, on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of YHWH honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in YHWH; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father, for the mouth of YHWH has spoken it."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."[/FONT]
 

Shamah

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Ariel what does this verse mean?

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"[/FONT]
 

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the laws on Mount Sinai clearly state to "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"

Jesus changed those laws to say that we should forgive and turn the other cheek.

the laws on Mount Sinai clearly state that you should STONE someone who does work on the Sabbath.

Jesus changed that to state that we should do GOD's Work EVEN on the Sabbath and to trust always for God to provide for every thing else. NOT to work for ourselves but ALWAYS work for God.

you can choose to be of Hagar or of the the Promised Seed, Jesus.

Jesus was not speaking against just man made oral traditions. He replaced the Covenant on Mount Sinai with the New Covenant.

some will reject this truth because they wish to stay enslaved and seek to enslave others to the lies and deception they have swallowed.
The Pharisees, which Jesus was correcting in Matt. 5, taught "part of God's Laws" as Jesus clearly told us.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

They taught ""an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" but not "17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

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18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Nor did they accept the truth about the Messiah;

Is. 50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.

Lam. 3:29 He putteth his mouth in the dust; if so be there may be hope.30 He giveth his cheek to him that smiteth him: he is filled full with reproach.

Lev. 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Your preaching is Biblically incorrect regarding Matt. 5. And your preaching is wrong on the two Laws, or two son's of Abraham and what the New Covenant is.

I have made a case that the Word's written in Heb. 7 are true. That it was the Priesthood that was changed, not the Laws given to the people, and it was the lawful requirement for the Levite only to possess the Priesthood, that the Bible says was changed. You have zero evidence for your preaching that God changed His instructions for the people and you seem to completely ignore what the Bible did say was changed in Heb. 7. The reference to Hagar is referring to the Priesthood, not God's Instructions to the people.

My opposition to your religious tradition is based on scripture just like my opposition on the traditions of the Catholic church is based on scripture.

You should correct you last statement as well.

some will reject THE truth because they wish to stay enslaved and seek to enslave others to the lies and deception of the religious traditions of man they have swallowed.





To imply that there is no more "Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" is to reject even more scriptures inspired by the Word which becoming Flesh.

Rom. 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

For there is no respect of persons with God.

Matt. 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

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And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

2 Cor. 5:10, For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

1 Pet. 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:

Rev. 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Ps. 62:12 Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.

Col. 3:24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

1 Cor. 3:8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
 
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Ariel what does this verse mean?

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"[/FONT]
That most likely is speaking of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, who did all of those things.
 
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Ariel82

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We do worship the lord of the sabbath. We just don't worship the sabbath.

Yeah, I know... "if you don't do such-and-such then you are not such-and-such blah blah blah..."
Yep I worship Jesus who is Lord EVERY day.....,,, NOT just one day a week....
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READING a thread backwards is weird...
 
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Ariel82

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ANYONE who does not worship the ''LORD of the SABBATH'' worships a different god...that must be obvious to a blind man.
As someone said to you a we worship the Lord Jesus Christ...not the Sabbath.

Follow His commandments as given on the Sermon on the mount for New Covenant believers....not the laws given on Mount Sinai for old covenant that is called the Law of Sin and death.

You claim to be of Abraham.
.I don't argue with you about that point.

However you are of Hagar because you preach laws from Mount Sinai not the spiritual truths Jesus gave us on the sermon on the mount.

The Sabbath is not about keeping one weekly observance of no work and Torah reading, but about SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN and not worry about food or drink but doing God's will always. For Jesus worked even in the Sabbath. The priests profane the Sabbath and we're blameless.

I say it over and over again hoping you will actually acknowledge the spiritual truths Jesus taught.
 
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Ariel82

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Its just that...I am probably being selfish...but I was so excited about this thread when you started it. I thought, a thread for those who are ready to move on! A thread where maybe it will not be futile argument by the dead letter. I thought...oh, she's here to serve us! But instead...it has become a thread that is serving this awful man to continue on in his sin...
I know it's been awful...I really do need to refocus on God's truth and not his lies.

Let's look at the Sabbath as God teaches us about it.

You can help me stay focused.
 
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