Yes of course I have and I understand what you posted but works are not salvation. Please show me where the Bible states works guarantee salvation.
The Book...shall we just address that as the Bible? I don't appreciate the 'fooled by adamant Igno rants' you ascribe to those who state that salvation is by faith in Christ alone. Tone it down.
Grabbing a small portion of scripture and then declaring people who understand the passage better then you, apparently, does not make a class of Igno ranters. This forum is not filled with Igno ranters when they declare that works are not salvation.
21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Romans 3
Kindly try to remember that I never said Christians should do no works. I say what scripture states and you can read that above from Romans 3 and there are many many scriptures that attest to the exact same thing. The law, was the most inclusive rendering of laws needing to be obeyed which indicated obedience by WORKS. It saved on one.
The works that are meant as Christian works are only available through faith in Christ. One follows the other. What James is actually saying, is that true Christian works will manifest through the believer if their faith is genuine.
The Book...shall we just address that as the Bible? I don't appreciate the 'fooled by adamant Igno rants' you ascribe to those who state that salvation is by faith in Christ alone. Tone it down.
Grabbing a small portion of scripture and then declaring people who understand the passage better then you, apparently, does not make a class of Igno ranters. This forum is not filled with Igno ranters when they declare that works are not salvation.
21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Romans 3
Kindly try to remember that I never said Christians should do no works. I say what scripture states and you can read that above from Romans 3 and there are many many scriptures that attest to the exact same thing. The law, was the most inclusive rendering of laws needing to be obeyed which indicated obedience by WORKS. It saved on one.
The works that are meant as Christian works are only available through faith in Christ. One follows the other. What James is actually saying, is that true Christian works will manifest through the believer if their faith is genuine.
Sorry, but all are ignorant, including myself, for none know all of the Word as does God Who is the Word. If it bothers you, I am afraid you do not know what is said even printed before your eyes.
No man is saved by works except by the blood of the Lamb of God. However if a man receives Him and then ignores the works He has given us all, he will have no wite garment when it comes to our being raised to His glory. Do not be so thin skined and except the truth of the Word.
Faith without works is DEAD, useless.