Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

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NTNT58

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Good. In your case that is true but not for actual Christians who follow and worship Christ and God through the Holy Spirit.
Moot point. Billions of Catholics are convinced that the holy spirit is guiding them toward the Catholic church.
 

posthuman

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my favorite joke with spell check:

have you ever typed a word and spell check comes back with 'I ain't got nuthin for that'
yeah my phone's keyboard is set to recognize English, Spanish and German but weirdly it can't decipher half of what i say :ROFL:

i must be Aztec
 
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Niki7

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I already gave you John 20:23 showing how Jesus gave the power to forgive sins to his disciples. Everything else in your argument is strawman, I never said Mary can forgive sins or that she was eternal virgin. I also made it clear that RCC authority is only physical, not spiritual.
and God gave you the entire Bible and what do you do with it?

you call the pope God's man on the throne, kiss his ring and dismiss any and every factual account for the fable you cling to
 
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Moot point. Billions of Catholics are convinced that the holy spirit is guiding them toward the Catholic church.
there is a world wide deception in place because the devil knows his time his short

Jesus warned us about it

if you would actually check the Bible.......................
 

NTNT58

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if you confused the word "worship" with "focus" it wasn't on my account.
Now you're lying, you literally said worship, not focus.

maybe ask if your whole narrative falls apart if the fallible human man Peter isn't the foundation of the Church of God, is your narrative maybe highly suspiciously heretical
Another strawman from you, I never said Peter was the foundation, I said he was the chief apostle.
 
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I gave you actual verses, so it's not me disagreeing with scripture, it's you. AND you conveniently ignored how I already refuted your claim that no man can forgive sins by quoting John 20:23. It is you who is rebelling against the church that Jesus has founded.
I have an entire Bible...several in fact and the internet has every single translation ever done

your gift of verses cannot compete with that
 

Bible_Highlighter

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Verse 1 sets the context. What does it say?
I am not looking to challenge at this time. I do like to see other interpretations of Scripture and look at things outside of the box sometimes. I would like your commentary on the chapter sometime. Do you believe this is the Nephilim or fallen angels of some kind?

In the time of Noah: I believe that another secondary group of angels rebelled after Satan and his band of angels. This second group of angels left their first estate (Heaven), and decided to marry the daughters of men, and the offspring were the Nephilim or Giants. This second group of angels are the ones who are reserved in chains of darkness in a special place in hell or the underworld.
 
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Niki7

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Now you're lying, you literally said worship, not focus.


Another strawman from you, I never said Peter was the foundation, I said he was the chief apostle.
I think it might be against the TOS of this forum to accuse others of lying

you should try to be more consistent with the TOS
 

NTNT58

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yeah that ole switch thing you like so much? that's actually called gaslighting

it's just childish
No, that's not gaslighting. Me refuting your false claims by providing bible verses is not gaslighting. You on the other hand keep ignoring the verses I post to make it sound like I'm wrong, that makes YOU the gaslighting hypocrite here, not me.
 
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Niki7

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yeah that ole switch thing you like so much? that's actually called gaslighting

it's just childish
oh dear. double jeopardy. gaslights and then denies it. but wait.....you get 2 gaslightings for the price of but one post

does he think the x has some kind of power?
 

posthuman

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I already gave you John 20:23 showing how Jesus gave the power to forgive sins to his disciples. Everything else in your argument is strawman, I never said Mary can forgive sins or that she was eternal virgin. I also made it clear that RCC authority is only physical, not spiritual.
um... friend don't take this wrong it's debate, remember...

But, then you are denying express doctrinal teachings of the RCC

which kinda puts you in the position now of having no authority whatsoever.
you claim RCC instead of Christ or even scripture, then you deny RCC too.

why should we hear you at all?
Who are you supposed to be representing??

If RCC is apostate false prophets then why does anyone need to obey them? even in the Law false prophets are to be ignored and/or put to death. so why you make yourself their attorney while admitting their crimes?
 

NTNT58

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it is your demonstrably, utterly fake history RCC argument that "Jew only" Peter is apostle to totes Gentile Rome. not mine.

this point still hasn't made it to your brain yet bruh but it will.

i point out irony by mention of it.


****slowly dawns****
Another strawman from you. I never claimed Peter was sent to Gentiles, I said he was the chief apostle.
 

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This is the passage you referenced

Christ’s Example of Suffering
(Isaiah 53:1–8)
21For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His footsteps:
22“He committed no sin,
and no deceit was found in His mouth.”
23When they heaped abuse on Him,
He did not retaliate;
when He suffered, He made no threats,
but entrusted Himself to Him who judges justly.
24He Himself bore our sins
in His body on the tree,

so that we might die to sin
and live to righteousness.
“By His stripes you are healed.”
25For “you were like sheep going astray,” but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.


notice the qualification of when He bore our sins, on the cross He suffered ("for you" v. 21). Do you see this as His actually accumulating unclean spots on Himself?
Jesus took on our sin in being our substitute to die in our place.
Only a spotless Lamb could do this. He took on our sins in the cup the Father gave to Him, and He carried them in His body.
They are not originally His spots. They are our spots or our sins He took in our place so as to save us. So this does not relate to your false belief that Jesus was internally tempted. Hebrews 4:15 is talking about external temptation. If not, then you have a contradiction in James 1:13, and Hebrews 7:26.
 
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Niki7

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well that's enough fun for now

actually it would be funny if it was not so sad
 

NTNT58

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there is a world wide deception in place because the devil knows his time his short

Jesus warned us about it

if you would actually check the Bible.......................
I can say the same thing about you. You are the one among many who are deceived. I did check the Bible and gave you the verses, and you ignored them, while gaslighting me and calling me the gaslighter.
 

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I think it might be against the TOS of this forum to accuse others of lying

you should try to be more consistent with the TOS
Not if they're actually lying or gaslighting. You should stop being a hypocrite.
 

NTNT58

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and God gave you the entire Bible and what do you do with it?

you call the pope God's man on the throne, kiss his ring and dismiss any and every factual account for the fable you cling to
Unlike you I study the Bible.

I don't call Pope God man on the throne or do anything that you claim. You are a liar, a gaslighter, and a hypocrite.