Have The 10 Commandments Been Abolished?

[Harkins]

The Ten Commandments and all other 603 rules have been replaced by the New Covenant. Nine of the commandments are, at least in principle, repeated in the New Testament, but the fourth one is not. That means: Christians are not supposed to keep the Sabbath as the Israelites did.

Speaking to His disciples of a time post death and Resurrection, Christ said:

Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day

The writer of the book of Hebrews also mentions that the Sabbath remains for the people of God:

Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God

In case there is dispute about the word "rest" the word used here isσαββατισμός which means "sabbath keeping"


Oops.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God

In case there is dispute about the word "rest" the word used here isσαββατισμός which means "sabbath keeping"

In case you haven't already seen it, you might like this > A keeping of a sabbath is left to GOD's people

 

[seed_time_harvest]

No, not abolished. He said He did not come to abolish them but to fulfill them, in each of us.

The way of following the law for righteousness is done away with. This does not mean He does not make us lawabiding in our hearts, because He certainly does, and the way He does is through trust, from start to finish.

Yes,HE fulfilled the law for whosoever will believe In the WORD of GOD because of the law being added because of adam’s transgression every one at that time would have to meet GOD’s standard of perfect righteousness of their own strength and because ofthe weakness of the flesh,man would come short of the glory of GOD and would need a savoir and those who reject HIM are already condemned anyway and will be judged by the law.

God provided the grace,choose Life.

 

[FlyingDove]

For every new covenant believer, ABOLISHED YES!

God gave the 10 commandments to children of Israel. As a covenant relationship between Him & them.

The apostle Paul taught that new conenant believers: are not under law but under grace (Rom 6:14).

2 Cor 3:
1 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?

2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:

3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:

5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
(NOTE: New covenant believers aren't under the """letter""" that kills)

7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
(NOTE: Clearly, the 10 commandments are the ministration of death, written & engraven in stones here. They are in fact done away with for all that are IN CHRIST)

8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:

13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

Rom 7:
1 now ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
(NOTE: New covenant believers have been DELIEVERED FROM THE LAW.)

 

[posthuman]

What about what Paul says in chapter 3?

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:28, “For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:31, “Are we then doing away with the Law* through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law*!”[/FONT]

did things change by chapter 6?



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"iniquity" is: #0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) the condition of without law 1a) because ignorant of it1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to Me; Master! Master! will enter into the Kingdom of YHWH, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Master! Master! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practiceiniquity.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]practice” is word #G2038 Strong's Concordance - ergazomai: I work, trade, do, Original Word: ἐργάζομαι, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: ergazomai, Phonetic Spelling: (er-gad'-zom-ahee), Short Definition: I work, trade, do, Definition: I work, trade, perform, do, practice, commit, acquire by labor.[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]iniquity” is word #G458 Strong's Concordance - anomia, lawlessness, Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"iniquity" is: #0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) the condition of without law 1a) because ignorant of it1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."[/FONT]

An ambassador in a foreign land may be immune to prosecution - effectively not under the law of the land - yet still abide by the customs and regulations of the place, out of wisdom and propriety rather than from threat of punishment.

Isn't this how Paul is able to say 'to those under Torah I became as under Torah, though myself not being under Torah'?

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

OK sure thats what he was saying... you are too much..

What an amazingly strong rebuttal! Its right up there with "doodyhead!"

 

[Shamah]

What an amazingly strong rebuttal! Its right up there with "doodyhead!"

Seems you cut out the majority of what I posted as if this is all I posted...

OK sure thats what he was saying... you are too much...


Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy, so I (Paul) worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."


Romans 7:25, "Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin."


Acts 21:24, "Take them, and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then everyone will know that those things they were informed about you (forsaking the Law), were lies, and that you (Paul), yourself, walk orderly, and keep the Law."


1 Corinthians 7:19, "For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of Yah?"


Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"


1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."


Romans 7:7, Shall we therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet."


Romans 7:12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."


Ephesians 6:2-3, "Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with a promise: That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth."




Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."

 

[Bladerunner]

That's the question. Have the 10 commandments been done away with? Are we now free to lie, steal, kill, etc etc??? Bible verses would help greatly.

The Ten Commandments were for Israel....Paul is our apostle...Look to His scriptures especially Romans for the Commandments that Jesus gave him.

 

[Harkins]

In case you haven't already seen it, you might like this > A keeping of a sabbath is left to GOD's people

I read your original first post. Your main argument rests on this statement:

The context of chapters 3 and 4 in Hebrews is not a weekly sabbath, nor a 7-year land sabbath, but the sabbath rest of the land promised to Israel, which many under Moses were not able to enter into because of unbelief. The context of these chapters also centers around faith.

This is incorrect. The context of the 7th day is what is being referred to, as is born out in these passages:

Heb 4:4, 4:7 - reference is time, specifically, a day, the seventh

4:8 (Hebrew *Joshua - "if Joshua had given them rest,then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.") - reference, a day. Joshua did not give them rest the day when they entered the promised land, so here again is a comparison that highlights Sabbath, which destroys the argument in the quote.

*Jesus in English text, however root is Hebrew "Joshua".

4:10 - References Creation account, God's resting, therefore references a day, the seventh.

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To original poster, I believe all 10 commandments are in effect.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

That's the question. Have the 10 commandments been done away with? Are we now free to lie, steal, kill, etc etc??? Bible verses would help greatly.

Everyone that has not accepted grace IS under law and will have to be perfect according to the law that moses gave that means keeping the ten commandments but because of the weakness of the flesh they will come short of the glory of GOD but GOD provided grace for whosoever will believe In HIS WORD,so then the Issue at hand now Is faith,JESUS the VINE and we are the branches receiving sustenance from the VINE displaying spiritual fruit establishing the law.

 

[Shamah]

The Ten Commandments were for Israel....Paul is our apostle...Look to His scriptures especially Romans for the Commandments that Jesus gave him.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Numbers 15:15-16, “One law is for you of the assembly and for the stranger who sojourns with you – a law forever throughout your generations. As you are, so is the stranger before [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. One Torah and one right-ruling is for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though YHWH's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Yisra’yl who belongs to Yisra’yl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are YHWH's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 105:6-10, “O seed of Aḇraham His servant, Children of Ya‛aqoḇ, His chosen ones! He is [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]our Strength; His right-rulings are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, The Word He commanded, for a thousand generations, The covenant He made with Aḇraham, And His oath to Yitsḥaq, And established it to Ya‛aqoḇ for a law, To Yisra’yl – an everlasting covenant.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166 – poimén)."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 5:39, “You search the Scriptures, because you think you possess everlasting life in them. And these are the ones that bear witness of Me.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:26, “But the Comforter; the Holy Spirit which YHWH will send in My Name will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I (Yahshua/Jesus) have said to you.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 6:63, “It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words (Instructions) that I (Yahshua/Jesus) speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting.” [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 14:23-24, “[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 28:19-20, “Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you each and every day until the end of the age.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]nations” is word #G1484 ἔθνος ethnos (eth'-nos) n., 1. a race (as of the same habit), i.e. a tribe., 2. (specially) a foreign (non-Jewish) one, Gentiles., 3. (usually, by implication) pagan., [probably from G1486], KJV: Gentile, heathen, nation, people, Root(s): G1486[/FONT]





[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 15:6-7, “So the apostles and the elders met to consider this statement. After a lengthy debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God chose me to be the one among you through whom the Gentiles would hear the message of the gospel and believe."[/FONT]

 

[Shamah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 15:3, “And they sing the song of Mosheh the servant of יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], and the song of the Lamb, saying, “Great and marvelous are Your works, [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה Strength Almighty! Righteous and true are Your ways, O Sovereign of the set-apart ones!”[/FONT]

 

[Bladerunner]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Numbers 15:15-16, “One law is for you of the assembly and for the stranger who sojourns with you – a law forever throughout your generations. As you are, so is the stranger before [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. One Torah and one right-ruling is for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though YHWH's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Yisra’yl who belongs to Yisra’yl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are YHWH's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 105:6-10, “O seed of Aḇraham His servant, Children of Ya‛aqoḇ, His chosen ones! He is [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]our Strength; His right-rulings are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, The Word He commanded, for a thousand generations, The covenant He made with Aḇraham, And His oath to Yitsḥaq, And established it to Ya‛aqoḇ for a law, To Yisra’yl – an everlasting covenant.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166 – poimén)."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 5:39, “You search the Scriptures, because you think you possess everlasting life in them. And these are the ones that bear witness of Me.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:26, “But the Comforter; the Holy Spirit which YHWH will send in My Name will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I (Yahshua/Jesus) have said to you.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 6:63, “It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words (Instructions) that I (Yahshua/Jesus) speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting.” [/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 14:23-24, “[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 28:19-20, “Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you each and every day until the end of the age.”[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]nations” is word #G1484 ἔθνος ethnos (eth'-nos) n., 1. a race (as of the same habit), i.e. a tribe., 2. (specially) a foreign (non-Jewish) one, Gentiles., 3. (usually, by implication) pagan., [probably from G1486], KJV: Gentile, heathen, nation, people, Root(s): G1486[/FONT]





[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 15:6-7, “So the apostles and the elders met to consider this statement. After a lengthy debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God chose me to be the one among you through whom the Gentiles would hear the message of the gospel and believe."[/FONT]

You just proved my whole point...all of the above verses are directed to the Israeli nation.

 

[Jackson123]

Im not being rude, just asking, do you not read english well? maybe that is the issue in our discussion?

Revelation 14:13, "And I heard a voice from heaven saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, the ones dying in the Messiah from now on! Yes, says the Spirit: because they will rest from their labors, and their works do follow them!"

the dead in Messiah "rest" because they are going to the kingdom.

"to give you who are afflictedrest with us when the Master יהושע is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers"


2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, “Clear evidence of the righteous judgment of יהוה, in order for you to be counted worthy of the reign of יהוה, for which you also suffer, since יהוה shall rightly repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give you who are afflictedrest with us when the Master יהושע is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know יהוה, and on those who do not obey the Good News of our Master יהושע Messiah, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Master and from the esteem of His strength, when He comes to be esteemed in His set-apart ones and to be admired among all those who believe in that Day, because our witness to you was believed.”


1 Peter 1:3-9, “Blessed be the Strength and Father of our Master יהושע Messiah, who according to His great compassion has caused us to be born again to a living expectation through the resurrection of יהושע Messiah from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and unfading, having been kept in the heavens for you, who are protected by the power of Yah through belief, for a deliverance ready to be revealed in the last time, in which you exult, even though for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by manifold trials, in order that the proving of your belief – much more precious than gold that perishes, and proven by fire – might be found to result in praise and respect and esteem at the revelation of יהושע Messiah, whom having not seen, you love; in whom you exult with unspeakable and esteemed joy, yet not seeing, but believing, obtaining the goal of your belief: a deliverance of lives.”


1 Peter 1:23, “Having been begotten, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of Yah, which lives and remains forever.”

did I accused you of being rude?
you say I am do not know English well, wich part of my posting you do not understand because my English? Let me know, I try to explain as much as I can, as long as you honest that you really do not understand my English. This is part of I do not understand. Do you believe rest mean death?

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Seems you cut out the majority of what I posted as if this is all I posted...

I cut the rest out because it was a long wall of scripture that didn't respond to his post as you seem to think it did.

 

[Shamah]

did I accused you of being rude?
you say I am do not know English well, wich part of my posting you do not understand because my English? Let me know, I try to explain as much as I can, as long as you honest that you really do not understand my English. This is part of I do not understand. Do you believe rest mean death?

I stated I didnt want you to think I was being rude, not saying you said that.

No rest does not mean death, but this is exactly why I asked about your english.

Can you explain what you take from this verse? Particularly this part in red

Revelation 14:12-13, "14:12, "Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones,c here are those guarding the commands of Elohim and the belief of יהושע. Footnote: cSee also Rev 12:17."14:13, "And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying to me, “Write, ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Master from now on.’ ” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “in order that they rest from their labours, and their works follow with them.”"

Revelation 14:12-13, "14:12, "Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus."14:13, "And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”"

To me this is showing that the resy Yahshua/Jesus offers i enterance in the Kingdom of YHWH.

2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, “Clear evidence of the righteous judgment of יהוה, in order for you to be counted worthy of the reign of יהוה, for which you also suffer, since יהוה shall rightly repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give you who are afflicted rest with us when the Master יהושע is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know יהוה, and on those who do not obey the Good News of our Master יהושע Messiah, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Master and from the esteem of His strength, when He comes to be esteemed in His set-apart ones and to be admired among all those who believe in that Day, because our witness to you was believed.”

 

[Jackson123]

I stated I didnt want you to think I was being rude, not saying you said that.

No rest does not mean death, but this is exactly why I asked about your english.

Can you explain what you take from this verse? Particularly this part in red

Revelation 14:12-13, "14:12, "Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones,c here are those guarding the commands of Elohim and the belief of יהושע. Footnote: cSee also Rev 12:17."14:13, "And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying to me, “Write, ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Master from now on.’ ” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “in order that they rest from their labours, and their works follow with them.”"

Revelation 14:12-13, "14:12, "Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus."14:13, "And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”"

To me this is showing that the resy Yahshua/Jesus offers i enterance in the Kingdom of YHWH.

2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, “Clear evidence of the righteous judgment of יהוה, in order for you to be counted worthy of the reign of יהוה, for which you also suffer, since יהוה shall rightly repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give you who are afflicted rest with us when the Master יהושע is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know יהוה, and on those who do not obey the Good News of our Master יהושע Messiah, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Master and from the esteem of His strength, when He comes to be esteemed in His set-apart ones and to be admired among all those who believe in that Day, because our witness to you was believed.”

To me Jesus offer is rest or sabbath from the time he come to Jesus and will on forever. Not wait till that person die.

And 4 th commandment is only a shadow of the real rest.

This rest is not once a week, like shadow rest, end when we die.

This rest is happen when we alive alive and continue forever in His kingdom.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

To me Jesus offer is rest or sabbath from the time he come to Jesus and will on forever. Not wait till that person die.

And 4 th commandment is only a shadow of the real rest.

This rest is not once a week, like shadow rest, end when we die.

This rest is happen when we alive alive and continue forever in His kingdom.

I've been enjoying your posts.

All the law and the prophets spoke of Him. So the law of sabbath rest spoke of Him. Men make it about them and what they must do, but all the law spoke of Him!

 

[Jackson123]

I've been enjoying your posts.

All the law and the prophets spoke of Him. So the law of sabbath rest spoke of Him. Men make it about them and what they must do, but all the law spoke of Him!

thanks brother.

some SDA ask a question, the fact that we are not under 10 commandment anymore, is that mean we free to kill, rape or committing adultery?

no, we are not killing, not because we are under 10 commandments, we are not killing because we are under Jesus commandment bellow


[h=1]Matthew 22:37-40 King James Version (KJV)[/h]37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


when you love your neighbor as you love yourself, will you kill them?

you will not kill, or steal from or rape not because under 10 c but because under New Covenant as Jesus say above

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

thanks brother.

some SDA ask a question, the fact that we are not under 10 commandment anymore, is that mean we free to kill, rape or committing adultery?

Men have always twisted the gospel Paul preached and asked this same question. Nothing has changed.