Have you learned what the "soul" REALLY is, yet?

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Are you fluent in hebrew? Ya tell me that.

And I hope you aint trying to say the Holy Spirit really is just wind or something? Where are you going with this?
Lets see, if i was to take a guess, id say yous an arian or unitarian. That would mean that you believe the Holy Spirit aint a person, but its just a "force"? Am i right?

Well in acts 8:29 the SPIRIT says go over and join this chariot. so a "wind" or a "force" cant speak like that?

Actually lemme just post this link right here, its got all the verses so i aint gotta go through em!
https://www.gotquestions.org/Holy-Spirit-person.html

So, you ignore my question, yet expect me to take your taunt seriously.
How...churchy
 
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The Bible begins by referring to animals BEING souls.
Then it tells us that ADAM became a soul.

Nothing immortal out into them.
The Smoke & Mirrors of CHURCHianity and the World Religions- that all believe Satan's lie to Eve....

 
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Because of this Satanic Dogma, most church-goers don't even believe Jesus ever died!
No WONDER they pretend to honor his resurrection of only the mannequin (body) with Rabbits laying colored eggs!
 

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Jehovah referred to Jesus as His angel ("messenger")~

Mal 3:1- “Behold, I send my messenger to prepare the way before me,
and Jehovah whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple;
the ANGEL of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming,
says Jehovah of hosts. 2- But who can endure the day of his coming,
and who can stand when he appears?


Jesus was the very greatest of ALL God's angels, and has now beenb raised ABOVE them, yet
still LEADS them as the Head Messenger- Archangel:


1 Thess 4:16- For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel,
and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

No chubby winged babies, nor the symbolic creatures seen in the symbolic visions of old.


This messenger you speak of in this verse is John the Baptist- who comes to prepare the way for the Lord Jesus to come soon after. “I send my messenger (John)... Then the Lord (Jesus) will come.” Read also Mark 1:3.

 
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This messenger you speak of in this verse is John the Baptist- who comes to prepare the way for the Lord Jesus to come soon after. “I send my messenger (John)... Then the Lord (Jesus) will come.” Read also Mark 1:3.

"But who can endure the day of his coming,
and who can stand when he appears?"
 
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[FONT=&quot]Malachi 3:1- [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Behold[/FONT][FONT=&quot], I send my messenger (angel) to prepare the way before me, and [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the Lord whom you seek[/FONT][FONT=&quot] will suddenly come to his temple; [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the messenger of the covenant[/FONT][FONT=&quot] in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says Jehovah [/FONT][FONT=&quot]of hosts.

John was no one's Lord, alto he and Jesus were BOTH angels (messengers) from God....[/FONT]
 
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Who is Jesus?

Was he created,or is he creator?
 
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Who is Jesus?
Was he created,or is he creator?
Do the words "son, begotten, firstborn, and beginning" ring a bell?
Or do you apply church definitions to those words?
EVERY Jew knew what they meant; do YOU?

Hint: God is not a son, was never begotten, and had no beginning.
 
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Do you realize that if you believe in the Catholic-inspired 'immortal soul' dogma, that you don't believe your own 'gospel'?
 
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Do the words "son, begotten, firstborn, and beginning" ring a bell?
Or do you apply church definitions to those words?
EVERY Jew knew what they meant; do YOU?

Hint: God is not a son, was never begotten, and had no beginning.
You accuse others of not answering.

You really don't like that question ,do you?

You're claiming to be expert. So answer the question.
 
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heartofdavid

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Do the words "son, begotten, firstborn, and beginning" ring a bell?
Or do you apply church definitions to those words?
EVERY Jew knew what they meant; do YOU?

Hint: God is not a son, was never begotten, and had no beginning.
Islam agrees with that statement.

Possibly a kindred spirit with the one guiding you?
 
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You accuse others of not answering.
You really don't like that question ,do you?
You're claiming to be expert. So answer the question.
I DID, by using the words God described him as.
Which you deny.

son: a boy born

Now spread church sludge to get~

son: a Never- Begotten Being who is a part of the 'Godhead'

Now, which do YOU think the Jews took the word to mean?

"[FONT=&quot]In these last days He has spoken to us by a son, whom He appointed the heir of all things, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]through[/FONT][FONT=&quot] whom also he created the world." - Heb 1

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They both made all things working together- but it was God's will and power that made it so; so calling Jesus our Creator isn't quite accurate. Even tho a builder makes a stunning sky-scraper, the architect is the one who designed and created it; the builder carries out his instructions.
 
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heartofdavid

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I DID, by using the words God described him as.
Which you deny.

son: a boy born

Now spread church sludge to get~

son: a Never- Begotten Being who is a part of the 'Godhead'

Now, which do YOU think the Jews took the word to mean?

"[FONT=&quot]In these last days He has spoken to us by a son, whom He appointed the heir of all things, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]through[/FONT][FONT=&quot] whom also he created the world." - Heb 1

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They both made all things working together- but it was God's will and power that made it so; so calling Jesus our Creator isn't quite accurate. Even tho a builder makes a stunning sky-scraper, the architect is the one who designed and created it; the builder carries out his instructions.
Thomas fell down and worshipped him as GOD.

In Hebrews JEHOVAH says of the son " thy throne o God is forever..."

In Johns gospel it says(you know,the part you left out) " ...and apart from him nothing was created..."

He,Jesus,resurrected himself. " destroy this temple,and in three days I will raise it up"

In John "the word was God"

Jesus is God
 
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Thomas fell down and worshipped him as GOD.

In Hebrews JEHOVAH says of the son " thy throne o God is forever..."

In Johns gospel it says(you know,the part you left out) " ...and apart from him nothing was created..."

He,Jesus,resurrected himself. " destroy this temple,and in three days I will raise it up"

In John "the word was God"

Jesus is God

Diversion already?
How churchy
 
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Back to topic.
ALL false religion- Churchianity & the World Religions- all say as Satan did to Eve: that we will NOT die.
And they are the origin of the "Living Dead"!

Thus to "die" and be "resurrected" means, in churchese, to float in or out of the boooody......as an ;'immortal soul'...
 

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Back to topic.
ALL false religion- Churchianity & the World Religions- all say as Satan did to Eve: that we will NOT die.
And they are the origin of the "Living Dead"!

Thus to "die" and be "resurrected" means, in churchese, to float in or out of the boooody......as an ;'immortal soul'...

The body dies..back to the dust it goes, the soul who is in Christ will go to be with Him. The real big..Thequestion' is. Where is your soul going?

You need to put your trust in Jesus, who is God!
 
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The body dies..back to the dust it goes, the soul who is in Christ will go to be with Him.
Compare with~
1 Thess 4:16- For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

Those dead in Christ are still...DEAD!
 

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Compare with~
1 Thess 4:16- For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

Those dead in Christ are still...DEAD!
Those who are not still in the physical, as in Christian who are alive on the earth when He returns. Paul is assuring the Christians that he does want them to be 'unimformed' or mislead about those who die. have a read of Chapter 4.
 
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heartofdavid

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Thomas fell down and worshipped him as GOD.

In Hebrews JEHOVAH says of the son " thy throne o God is forever..."

In Johns gospel it says(you know,the part you left out) " ...and apart from him nothing was created..."

He,Jesus,resurrected himself. " destroy this temple,and in three days I will raise it up"

In John "the word was God"

Jesus is God
Still waiting Mr question.

What happened?

Did the watchtower workbook blow up?