Hell's Population Crock
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S
Seeing as you are unwilling to say whether you are an annihilationist or Universalist, how about a test.
Will men like Judas, Hitler, the false prophet, the beast, etc, be in heaven with the Redeemed of the Lord? Will they be saved? Will they gain an inheritance with the Saints?
What about Satan and his demons?
What is the eternal destiny of these? Ceasing to exist after judgement,
or being thrown into a temporary fire to be brought into the eternal Kingdom?
Will men like Judas, Hitler, the false prophet, the beast, etc, be in heaven with the Redeemed of the Lord? Will they be saved? Will they gain an inheritance with the Saints?
What about Satan and his demons?
What is the eternal destiny of these? Ceasing to exist after judgement,
or being thrown into a temporary fire to be brought into the eternal Kingdom?
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J
That didn't answer my questions...and don't even bother suggesting to me that it did and I simply don't understand the Abrahamic covenant. Believe me, you don't want to go there with me.
Let's try this again:
Do you believe in annihilationism?
Yes or no?
Do you believe in universalism or that everyone will ultimately be saved?
Yes or no?
Let's try this again:
Do you believe in annihilationism?
Yes or no?
Do you believe in universalism or that everyone will ultimately be saved?
Yes or no?
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The vacuous nature of your decadent fixations engenders your lack of response to why Jesus
called Peter, Satan.
You are in a state of vertigo, and cannot answer the question.
Please try though, seeing that you parade as The Voice of the Lord and can only speak Truth.
What say you - Why did Jesus say unto Peter - Get, behind me Satan.
called Peter, Satan.
You are in a state of vertigo, and cannot answer the question.
Please try though, seeing that you parade as The Voice of the Lord and can only speak Truth.
What say you - Why did Jesus say unto Peter - Get, behind me Satan.
S
I don't trust people so easily deceived by pyramid schemes, as you advertise in you YouTube channel.
(an asian pyramid scam? seriously dude? there is no accountability or international law that can protect you from that. what are you thinking?)
Zero wisdom in this one.
Honestly, if you are right, Socrates, then I am saved even if I don't listen to you, and so is the rest of the deceived babylonian church. So there is no point. I don't need any enlightenment, because according to you, I am already going to get saved... along with all the other "demonic" doctrine peddlers.
(an asian pyramid scam? seriously dude? there is no accountability or international law that can protect you from that. what are you thinking?)
Zero wisdom in this one.
Honestly, if you are right, Socrates, then I am saved even if I don't listen to you, and so is the rest of the deceived babylonian church. So there is no point. I don't need any enlightenment, because according to you, I am already going to get saved... along with all the other "demonic" doctrine peddlers.
J
Today's breakfast menu:
Slippery serpent...fried.
I'll give you this much...
You must yet have a modicum of sense in you in that you're afraid to directly answer questions because you know that you're going to get creamed if you do.
I'll ask this one last time and then begin the creaming process, with or without a direct response from you:
Out of curiosity, are you equating everything written in Acts 3:19-26 with "the Abrahamic Covenant"?
Yes or no?
Slippery serpent...fried.
I'll give you this much...
You must yet have a modicum of sense in you in that you're afraid to directly answer questions because you know that you're going to get creamed if you do.
I'll ask this one last time and then begin the creaming process, with or without a direct response from you:
Out of curiosity, are you equating everything written in Acts 3:19-26 with "the Abrahamic Covenant"?
Yes or no?
J
Hi, Sophia.
Well, I might as well commune with the sane while I'm here...
If either annihilationism or universalism were true, then the following words of Jesus simply make no sense:
Matthew chapter 26
[20] Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.
[21] And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
[22] And they were exceeding sorrowful, and began every one of them to say unto him, Lord, is it I?
[23] And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me.
[24] The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.
Again:
Mark chapter 14
[17] And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.
[18] And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me.
[19] And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? and another said, Is it I?
[20] And he answered and said unto them, It is one of the twelve, that dippeth with me in the dish.
[21] The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.
If annihilationism is true, then why would Jesus say that it would have been good for Judas if he had never been born? I mean, if Judas' end was to be annihilated, then he would no longer exist, right? Similary, if Judas had never been born, then he would have never existed to begin with, right? What, then, is the difference? IOW, in either case, he wouldn't exist. Annihilationism is nonsense.
If universalism is true, then, again, Jesus' pronouncement against Judas makes no sense whatsoever. IOW, if Judas' final end was to be saved or "restored", then surely it was good for Judas to have been born. Universalism is nonsense.
However, if Judas' end was eternal torment, well...
Well, I might as well commune with the sane while I'm here...
If either annihilationism or universalism were true, then the following words of Jesus simply make no sense:
Matthew chapter 26
[20] Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.
[21] And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
[22] And they were exceeding sorrowful, and began every one of them to say unto him, Lord, is it I?
[23] And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me.
[24] The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.
Again:
Mark chapter 14
[17] And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.
[18] And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me.
[19] And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? and another said, Is it I?
[20] And he answered and said unto them, It is one of the twelve, that dippeth with me in the dish.
[21] The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.
If annihilationism is true, then why would Jesus say that it would have been good for Judas if he had never been born? I mean, if Judas' end was to be annihilated, then he would no longer exist, right? Similary, if Judas had never been born, then he would have never existed to begin with, right? What, then, is the difference? IOW, in either case, he wouldn't exist. Annihilationism is nonsense.
If universalism is true, then, again, Jesus' pronouncement against Judas makes no sense whatsoever. IOW, if Judas' final end was to be saved or "restored", then surely it was good for Judas to have been born. Universalism is nonsense.
However, if Judas' end was eternal torment, well...
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J
I don't dance to your tune - I love the band RUSH.
I will elect to not answer you, for the sole purpose of my entertainment of watching you attempt to begin the creaming process.
I will elect to not answer you, for the sole purpose of my entertainment of watching you attempt to begin the creaming process.
No worries.
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