Holy Flesh Is Surely Possible

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Jon4TheCross

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I see that it would be edifying to post this thread about the dead/holy flesh of God, and it's true that God proved His flesh has always been dead by dying for us while never committing a sin (actions, attitudes, thoughts, and words responsible for evil). I will prove that God came to this earth in dead flesh (I hope after these scriptures you will understand what I mean by dead flesh, and how we can all have dead flesh, which is an exceeding great gift).

1. The holy/dead flesh of God existed before The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
Joh 6:48I am that bread of life.
Joh 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
Joh 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
Joh 6:51I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
Joh 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
Joh 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
Joh 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
Joh 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
Joh 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
Joh 6:59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
Joh 6:60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
Joh 6:61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
Joh 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

So there's no denying that the holy flesh of God came from Heaven, and was in Heaven before The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us in earth.

Here's a commandment concerning dead flesh, for those who believe all things are possible, and believe they can recieve it.

Mat 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
Mat 19:13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
Mat 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

If our goal is to be like Jesus, then we must understand that He is a eunuch, and try for it eventually (the quicker the better for all). There's nothing wrong with being married of course, and having sex while married, but eventually you will be able to try for it if you really want to (perhaps when you get old and don't need sex anymore ;)

The covenant of circumcision also reflects this, not only about not being male or female, but concerning other ways the flesh motivates us, like covetousness for one.

What is a good example of a group dedicated to always trying to keep the dead flesh?

Act_2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act_4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

Rom_7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

When you look in the mirror, you're eyes are not seeing the real you, but the temporary appearance of you. You will truly appear with him in glory when Christ, our life, shall appear.

Wouldn't it be great to help each other with accountability always, in an attempt to really maintain dead flesh? We will always have flesh, and I believe most will eventually always have dead flesh like God.

There is a perspective that is earthly, and one that is from Heaven. When I use the word flesh I am talking about the flesh that can exist in heaven, which is dead flesh.

I hope that was not hard to understand.

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
 
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YES!! And AMEN!!!!
 
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nathan3

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Flesh is heaven ? what? : / : (
 
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nathan3

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Dead/holy flesh comes from Heaven, yes, and previous scriptures prove it.
are you just making this up for the fun of it ????? I don't understand what your saying here ?
 

Jon4TheCross

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come on jon4.
really.....like.
arg.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

What? Where is there a contradiction from any other single scripture or understanding of any group of scriptures?
 
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I know that there is nothing to gain in the flesh as the spirit in
Me is devouring it .. To die in Christ is gain!!!'
iron sharpens iron .. Yoir view of yoir spiritual nature gives me a boost to see further an look towards gods heavens ...
We are not of this world but in it .. Not human beings having spiritual experiences but spiritual beings having human ones... To walk out in the spirit what the flesh nature does not understand ... so that all
Man kind can see into the kingdoms of heavens ..
god splashes his colors in deep
Space .... We are not
Limited in the spirit to remain on this earth but go to deeper levels and the deeper things of God.. As he says he will reveal all his secrets to us ..... man looks into space and misses god ... have you ever looked at pictures from the Hubble telescope? it's like
Looking into a closet, joined to a room ... his
Paint shop perhaps ... Where colors of His splendor and glory are splashed all around ... Take a look and see.... god is not in a box, but outside of it .... his throne is splashed with bright gold ... The very bright and light color you see in a flame ... As he is continually refining impurities out of is .. And I agree with the accountability factor , for iron sharpens iron..... gods pupil is
Like a womb ... he calls is to come dwell in the secret places of the
Most high .. His upper rooms... Since Christ being in me is the apple of Gods
Eye ... Shouldn't we all be dwelling there ?
He is father and his womb is
Like mother .... He plants his seed in all of us .. some
Are born Sowers, some come to water , but it's
God who brings forth the harvest...
old skin can not hold new wine ....
and as the water saw it's master it blushed .... So to should we coming before the very threshold of God....
He is Alpha and Omega!!!
HOLY HOLY HOLY IS HE!!
 
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rachelsedge

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I'm a bit confused what you mean by "dead flesh"...

I'm also lost on why you think all Christian men should be eunuchs.
 
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A possible danger of taking scripture out of the context of which it is written

One man decided to open his Bible randomly
every day. Whatever attracts his eyes first is God’s word for him on that day. One day, he
opened the Bible and the sentence he saw first was, “So, Judas. . .went away and hanged
himself.” (Matthew 27:5). The man was puzzled so he opened the Bible again, then the
following words came to his eyes. “Go and do likewise.” (Luke 10:37) He couldn’t
believe that it was from God, so he opened the Bible again. He saw “What you are about to
do, do quickly.” (John 13:28)

It's a joke that is meant to get us to think.
 

Jon4TheCross

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A possible danger of taking scripture out of the context of which it is written

One man decided to open his Bible randomly
every day. Whatever attracts his eyes first is God’s word for him on that day. One day, he
opened the Bible and the sentence he saw first was, “So, Judas. . .went away and hanged
himself.” (Matthew 27:5). The man was puzzled so he opened the Bible again, then the
following words came to his eyes. “Go and do likewise.” (Luke 10:37) He couldn’t
believe that it was from God, so he opened the Bible again. He saw “What you are about to
do, do quickly.” (John 13:28)

It's a joke that is meant to get us to think.
Just to clear things up, are you or are you not implying that I have taken things out of context? If you are implying that, please show at least one scripture to support your opinon.
 
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nathan3

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A possible danger of taking scripture out of the context of which it is written

One man decided to open his Bible randomly
every day. Whatever attracts his eyes first is God’s word for him on that day. One day, he
opened the Bible and the sentence he saw first was, “So, Judas. . .went away and hanged
himself.” (Matthew 27:5). The man was puzzled so he opened the Bible again, then the
following words came to his eyes. “Go and do likewise.” (Luke 10:37) He couldn’t
believe that it was from God, so he opened the Bible again. He saw “What you are about to
do, do quickly.” (John 13:28)

It's a joke that is meant to get us to think.
Look, you know whats sad, about this joke? It's true ! . I have met people that do that ! This one guy was reading the Bible that way for answers to his divorce issues. It's so pathetic It might be reason enough to cry about. Look God gave us a brain , we have to use them.
 

Jon4TheCross

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I'm a bit confused what you mean by "dead flesh"...

I'm also lost on why you think all Christian men should be eunuchs.
We are going to all be eunuchs for all eternity, and previous scripture points out that we should receive this commandment from Christ if we are able. All things are possible, and eventually we are able, even if it takes literal death of the flesh.

Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

I'm already not male or female, if you understand what I'm saying (according to the perspective of the flesh I am male, but I do not live according to the perspective of the flesh, I only use it for the sake of this world).
 

Jon4TheCross

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Look, you know whats sad, about this joke? It's true ! . I have met people that do that. This one guy was reading the Bible that way for answers to his divorce issues. It's so pathetic It might be reason enough to cry about. Look God gave us a brain , we have to use them.
I agree that the example of the joke is sad but true, however, I do not see how it fits into this thread, that's all.
 
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nathan3

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I agree that the example of the joke is sad but true, however, I do not see how it fits into this thread, that's all.
I guess it could be argued your using similar methods.
 

Jon4TheCross

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I guess it could be argued your using similar methods.
I would like to know what scriptures point to that opinion being true, or are you just going to continue to speak what you do not know?

Joh_3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
 
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Just to clear things up, are you or are you not implying that I have taken things out of context? If you are implying that, please show at least one scripture to support your opinon.
Within the context of the passage

Matthew 19

19 When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2 Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

First the Pharisees were asking about divorce. Jesus refutes that. Next the disciples then get to the point that NO ONE should marry if that is the case. Verses 11-12 are Jesus rebuttal to their comment and points out that only those who it was given should not marry. Within the context of the passage t has nothing to do with dead flesh what so ever but with marriage.The danger comes when you take outside of what is clearly being stated and try to make say something it never did
 
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I would like to know what scriptures point to that opinion being true, or are you just going to continue to speak what you do not know?

Joh_3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
Just for example. The Bible was written in Hebrew or Greek , where it was translated from into English anyway. For me anyway,when I'm not very careful with the wording on some things it can end up not making sense, and some things did not carry well over to English for it to be rushed through. Not to mention your wording of things :

For ex:

Wouldn't it be great to help each other with accountability always, in an attempt to really maintain dead flesh? We will always have flesh, and I believe most will eventually always have dead flesh like God.

Dead flesh like God ? I have read the scripture when it had to do with the body. And Even God's Body. Never is dead flesh in connection with God.

For example, when I read a verse, and It does not make sense to me. I have to take time to make sure I understand it right. To me, it seeming like your taking it at face value, and not getting the full picture, also leaving out other scriptures that talk about the bodies, that laws, etc. And then throwing your own words in to it like " dead flesh like God" . And its all confusion us what your post ends us looking like to me.
 

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Look, you know whats sad, about this joke? It's true ! . I have met people that do that ! This one guy was reading the Bible that way for answers to his divorce issues. It's so pathetic It might be reason enough to cry about. Look God gave us a brain , we have to use them.
it's bordering on divination.