How can we be 100% sure that God is not the same god in other religions?

[smithbr8]

For example- on here, I'm smithbr8, to my brother I'm sister, to my mom I'm daughter. How can we be 100% absolutely sure that God and Allah are not the same person? That Buddha and God are not the same person, yet claim it's because God only has one name? Oh yea, Jesus and the HS are also God.....aren't those other names as well?

 

[Emz1066]

i see what you mean but God says Jesus is the only way and that Jesus is the son of God. It wouldnt make sense if God decided to make other routes and other ways that contradict each other. In my opionion Christianity is the only religon that can prove itself because the Christian God speaks back Ive also previously read about Jesus appearing to Muslims so yeah hope this helps in some way. Ask God to help make it clear to you and believe and trust he will

 

[kenisyes]

Half of all Christians think He is. Half of all Christians think He is not. I doubt you will find out by diligent study or by posts.

 

[crossnote]

For example- on here, I'm smithbr8, to my brother I'm sister, to my mom I'm daughter. How can we be 100% absolutely sure that God and Allah are not the same person? That Buddha and God are not the same person, yet claim it's because God only has one name? Oh yea, Jesus and the HS are also God.....aren't those other names as well?

did Allah or Buddha or Confucius. die for your sins? cmon lets get real.
2Cor 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
I can't believe Christendom is having this conversation.

 

[resurrection33]

For example- on here, I'm smithbr8, to my brother I'm sister, to my mom I'm daughter. How can we be 100% absolutely sure that God and Allah are not the same person? That Buddha and God are not the same person, yet claim it's because God only has one name? Oh yea, Jesus and the HS are also God.....aren't those other names as well?

My suspicion is that the Jews and Muslims worship the same God we worship.

 

[PatientSpirit]

For example- on here, I'm smithbr8, to my brother I'm sister, to my mom I'm daughter. How can we be 100% absolutely sure that God and Allah are not the same person? That Buddha and God are not the same person, yet claim it's because God only has one name? Oh yea, Jesus and the HS are also God.....aren't those other names as well?

1 Corinthians 9:19-23

19*For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

20*And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

21*To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

22*To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

23*And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.


Ephesians 4:1-4

4*I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

2*With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

3*Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

4*There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

5*One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

6*One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

 

[Bookends]

The bible can be backed up with historical (prophecies come true) and archaeological proof, for Jesus said even these stones will cry out... They are uncovering old artifacts all the time that proves the validity of the bible. No other book can claim this!!


Luke 19:28-40
28 After Jesus had said this, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem. 29 As he approached Bethphage and Bethany at the hill called the Mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples, saying to them, 30 “Go to the village ahead of you, and as you enter it, you will find a colt tied there, which no one has ever ridden. Untie it and bring it here. 31 If anyone asks you, ‘Why are you untying it?’ tell him, ‘The Lord needs it.’”
32 Those who were sent ahead went and found it just as he had told them. 33 As they were untying the colt, its owners asked them, “Why are you untying the colt?”
34 They replied, “The Lord needs it.”
35 They brought it to Jesus, threw their cloaks on the colt and put Jesus on it. 36 As he went along, people spread their cloaks on the road. (From John 12, we discover they came with Palm Branches along with their coats.)
37 When he came near the place where the road goes down the Mount of Olives, the whole crowd of disciples began joyfully to praise God in loud voices for all the miracles they had seen:
38 “Blessed is the king who comes in the name of the
Lord!”“Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!”
39 Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, “Teacher, rebuke your disciples!”
40 “I tell you,” he replied, “if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.”

 

[feedm3]

My suspicion is that the Jews and Muslims worship the same God we worship.

Koran: Jesus not the son of God:

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is. Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: therefore serve Him; this is the Straight Way. [The Holy Qur'an, Surah 19:35-36][/FONT][/FONT]

The Bible teaches Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of GOd: - Jn 3:16


The Koran teaches Jesus did not die for our sins

...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God." They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... (Qur'an, 4:157)​

Bible - Only begotten son of God, died for our sins - I Cor 15:3



Koran: find and kill unbelievers

“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
(Qur'an 9:5)


Bible - seek and save unbelievers - LUKE 19:10




The Koran denies that Jesus is the Son of God, denies that he died for sin, and denies he ever resurrected. According to the Bible, this is the definition of an anti-Christ (I Jn 2:22-23).

Now how can they be the same God?

Does God in one book exalt Christ as the son of God, and give him to die for our sins, then in another book deny Christ ever died for sins, nor was His son?

The Koran is evil and not from God.

 

[WolfInOxHide]

Allahim is Aramaic for Elohim. Jesus would most likely have said "Allah."

We all pray to the same God automatically, otherwise we'd be stuck with "trying them all out."
He hears us based on His knowledge of what's in our heart. If a person never hears the word "Jesus", he can still cry out in His name which is "God will save."
It's not a language mechanic, it's a cry for salvation mechanic.

And there's a pronounced difference in "God might save" vs. "God will save", ergo the requirement of faith.

 

[crossnote]

Allahim is Aramaic for Elohim. Jesus would most likely have said "Allah."

We all pray to the same God automatically, otherwise we'd be stuck with "trying them all out."
He hears us based on His knowledge of what's in our heart. If a person never hears the word "Jesus", he can still cry out in His name which is "God will save."
It's not a language mechanic, it's a cry for salvation mechanic.

And there's a pronounced difference in "God might save" vs. "God will save", ergo the requirement of faith.

By the same logic the worshippers of Baal, Ashtoreth and Molech prayed to the same God as Yahweh. Oy Vey!

 

[PatientSpirit]

By the same logic the worshippers of Baal, Ashtoreth and Molech prayed to the same God as Yahweh. Oy Vey!

If one prayed to "baal" for a plentiful harvest of food to feed his village or town, and then received what he prayed for, who was it that performed this act.

 

[crossnote]

If one prayed to "baal" for a plentiful harvest of food to feed his village or town, and then received what he prayed for, who was it that performed this act.

The true God rains on the just and the unjust even those who pray to OTHER gods.
Can you explain to me what was going on on MT. Carmel between Elijah and the prophets of Baal?

 

[loveme1]

We are Faithful.

John 4

15The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw. 16Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither. 17The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband: 18For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly. 19The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 25The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. 26Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

 

[WolfInOxHide]

By the same logic the worshippers of Baal, Ashtoreth and Molech prayed to the same God as Yahweh. Oy Vey!

Through incorrect personas of what they still believed to be "the God", and much to their distress.

Baal "Lord" only
Ashtoreth "abundance" only
Molech "King" only
vs.
Jesus "Ya will save" the only begotten Son.

 

[PatientSpirit]

The true God rains on the just and the unjust even those who pray to OTHER gods.
Can you explain to me what was going on on MT. Carmel between Elijah and the prophets of Baal?

Let me explain it by the religions today.

A christian performs a miracle. A muslim performs the same miracle.

Yet the muslim says the christian is a false god. Likewise a christian will say to the muslim that his god is false.

But the SPIRIT speaks for itself! God is all in all, but the persons in this example gave power to THE IMAGE.

Be honest. Christians feel pretty much that all those "outside the faith" are pretty much doomed. It's the same for muslims.

But God is neither! We are to make NO SIMILITUDE of Him.

What's the difference between a muslim who prays 5 times a day and a christian who only prays at the altar on sundays? NOHING! Just different ways to express ONE faith.

 

[Cobus]

Even some that does miricles in the NAME OF JESUS, also did not know God, and God did not know them. So they also would not be with God in heaven. Matthew 7.
If a man that in his mind thought he believed in Jesus, doing great miricles in the Name of Jesus, and still be told.... Go away from ME I never knew you, ye that work the iniquity.
I ask myself the same question that the disciples asked Jesus.... WHO WILL MAKE IT THEN?.... Jesus said... For man it is imposiible but for God everything is possible... Matthew 19:26.

Are all muslims cursed now? What about one that never hears the Truth of Jesus. God made provision for that as well.... They would be judged by HIM and not us. If God wrote HIS law on that muslims heart, he would be righteouss in God's eyes and judged to the LAW GOD GAVE HIM! Not by us!

The same to any other religion, God is the judge of ALL! And all will be judged by HIM with FAIRNESS! Thank God HE is doing that job, I will make a mess of things!

All I pray is that HIS TRUTH WILL be preached in all the WORLD SOON!

 

[crossnote]

Let me explain it by the religions today.

A christian performs a miracle. A muslim performs the same miracle.

Yet the muslim says the christian is a false god. Likewise a christian will say to the muslim that his god is false.

But the SPIRIT speaks for itself! God is all in all, but the persons in this example gave power to THE IMAGE.

Be honest. Christians feel pretty much that all those "outside the faith" are pretty much doomed. It's the same for muslims.

But God is neither! We are to make NO SIMILITUDE of Him.

What's the difference between a muslim who prays 5 times a day and a christian who only prays at the altar on sundays? NOHING! Just different ways to express ONE faith.

where does your teaching come from? A Course in Miracles by Helen Schucman? or where?
A Christian is one who rests his salvation on the Person and Work of Jesus Christ.
A Muslim or other religious person is by their works trying to earn favor with their deity.

 

[loveme1]

The Truth is rejected by the world.

One can read the Bible and still not see or hear.

My God is Almighty and Good forever.

Time will prove all things.

If we love him we partake not in that which is abominable.

The christ of these religions is not Yahshua the Messiah and they serve not Yahvah God in Spirit and Truth.

The road is not wide for he said it is Narrow.

The Light shines in the darkness.

The world is deceived and will trust in man.

Hold Fast.

Jeremiah 17

3O my mountain in the field, I will give thy substance and all thy treasures to the spoil, and thy high places for sin, throughout all thy borders.

4And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.

5Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

6For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.

7Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.

8For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.

 

[Agravesx]

Well, God is Allah. The name means exactly the same thing, so if you were in a Christian church in Arab land, chances are they would use Allah as well.

But how we know that the God of Christianity is not the God of Islam is that the descriptions of the two are very different. Sure God is called by the Muslims the Compassionate, the Merciful, the King, just as Christians do, however the Qur'an seems to try and revert back to many of the ways of the Old Testament and ignores the teachings and reformations of the Christ as seen in our bible. So, just remember as the Holy Spirit said through Paul,

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever

 

[PatientSpirit]

where does your teaching come from? A Course in Miracles by Helen Schucman? or where?
A Christian is one who rests his salvation on the Person and Work of Jesus Christ.
A Muslim or other religious person is by their works trying to earn favor with their deity.

No man teaches me. I give freely what was freely given to me. I know no such person.

The person you are resting in, did He not say all men will be drawn to Him?

And again, if God was ALONE how are people still seeing another?