How can we be 100% sure that God is not the same god in other religions?

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The Truth is rejected by the world.

One can read the Bible and still not see or hear.

My God is Almighty and Good forever.

Time will prove all things.

If we love him we partake not in that which is abominable.

The christ of these religions is not Yahshua the Messiah and they serve not Yahvah God in Spirit and Truth.

The road is not wide for he said it is Narrow.

The Light shines in the darkness.

The world is deceived and will trust in man.

Hold Fast.

Jeremiah 17

1 John 2:1-2

2*My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2*And he is the propitiation for our sins (those true to jesus): and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world (christians, muslims etc).


1 Timothy 2:5-6

5*For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

6*Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
 

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1 John 2:1-2

2*My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2*And he is the propitiation for our sins (those true to jesus): and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world (christians, muslims etc).


1 Timothy 2:5-6

5*For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

6*Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Do the muslims accept Yahshua the Messiah?

Does the whole world accept the Messiah?

Would they be forgiven if they accept him and be reconciled with Yahvah God?

Have they made peace with the Almighty through Faith in the Messiah?


The world continues until the Harvest and the invitation is open.

Matthew 13

The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side. 2And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
3And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow; 4And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: 5Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them: 8But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. 9Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

10And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 17For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

18Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. 19When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. 20But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; 21Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. 22He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

31Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.

33Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

34All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

35That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

36Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. 37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

44Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.

45Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: 46Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

47Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. 49So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, 50And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

51Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord. 52Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

53And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these parables, he departed thence. 54And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works? 55Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? 56And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? 57And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. 58And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.
 
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Do the muslims accept Yahshua the Messiah?

Does the whole world accept the Messiah?

Would they be forgiven if they accept him and be reconciled with Yahvah God?

Have they made peace with the Almighty through Faith in the Messiah?


The world continues until the Harvest and the invitation is open.

Matthew 13
Will they be forgiven???

Luke 23:33-34

33*And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.

34*Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.


Do you believe His Father, who is the giver of every good and PERFECT gift, granted His ONLY begotten Son HIS DYING WISH?

Again I say if WE being evil know how to give good gifts, how much more our Father in heaven will give to His good Son.

Even WE grant death row inmates atleast one last meal of their choice before the execution!

Do NOT deny Jesus HIS, please!
 
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Quote Loveme1,

Do the muslims accept Yahshua the Messiah?
Does the whole world accept the Messiah?
Would they be forgiven if they accept him and be reconciled with Yahvah God?
Have they made peace with the Almighty through Faith in the Messiah? End Quote:

The question is, can "you" accept Muslims and those who have not received from reconciliation as of now?
The question is, can "you" accept them and love them even now before they have come into the Faith?
The question is, can "you" accept them, and have peace with them while they are yet in unbelief?

That is the Question.

God Bless
 
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where does your teaching come from? A Course in Miracles by Helen Schucman? or where?
A Christian is one who rests his salvation on the Person and Work of Jesus Christ.
A Muslim or other religious person is by their works trying to earn favor with their deity.
Not necessarily true.... Buddhists do not do works to earn favor, they live in the same manner that Christ instructed us to live.
 
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Will they be forgiven???

Luke 23:33-34

33*And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.

34*Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.


Do you believe His Father, who is the giver of every good and PERFECT gift, granted His ONLY begotten Son HIS DYING WISH?

Again I say if WE being evil know how to give good gifts, how much more our Father in heaven will give to His good Son.

Even WE grant death row inmates atleast one last meal of their choice before the execution!

Do NOT deny Jesus HIS, please!
So Jesus wants to eat us?I really don't understand what you're saying.....
 
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So Jesus wants to eat us?I really don't understand what you're saying.....
Really???

Do you understand how to prepare a will? Is it not an HONORED request by dead to the living to be carried out?

Now again even WE allow criminals a last request before execution. Will not God honor the request of His Son upon His crucifixion?
 

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The fact is there is only one way to be forgiven of your sins and that is by the Lord Jesus Christ.

John 3:18 says if you don't believe in Jesus Christ you are condemned.

Will He save them after they die??

Matthew 7:23 certainly implies that He won't.

God is God and we aren't. If we don't honor His son but continue in our stubborn will... who wants to know what happens after that? Not me...
 
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The fact is there is only one way to be forgiven of your sins and that is by the Lord Jesus Christ.

John 3:18 says if you don't believe in Jesus Christ you are condemned.

Will He save them after they die??

Matthew 7:23 certainly implies that He won't.

God is God and we aren't. If we don't honor His son but continue in our stubborn will... who wants to know what happens after that? Not me...
So if scripture says that if you don't believe in Christ, you're condemned, why is a fetus from miscarriage granted access to Heaven? Why are young children who die granted access to Heaven?
 
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The fact is there is only one way to be forgiven of your sins and that is by the Lord Jesus Christ.

John 3:18 says if you don't believe in Jesus Christ you are condemned.

Will He save them after they die??

Matthew 7:23 certainly implies that He won't.

God is God and we aren't. If we don't honor His son but continue in our stubborn will... who wants to know what happens after that? Not me...

So simply put, we are to love our enemies but God doesn't love His???

And if the flesh PROFITS NOTHING, why then base OUR MOST PRECIOUS GIFT in the death of that flesh?

If you don't believe in Jesus you are condemned already indeed.

Now if Jesus took away the sins of the world BEFORE any of us were born, to then STILL call yourself or anyone else a sinner means you still are under wrath, as put on display here often as most would rather bite and devour one another.
 
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For example- on here, I'm smithbr8, to my brother I'm sister, to my mom I'm daughter. How can we be 100% absolutely sure that God and Allah are not the same person? That Buddha and God are not the same person, yet claim it's because God only has one name? Oh yea, Jesus and the HS are also God.....aren't those other names as well?
The Triune Creator, as revealed within the pages of the Holy Bible, is the only true God.

This can be proven by testing what the scriptures state regarding physical things, and, when found to be true, then we can be assured that the spiritual things are likewise correct.

A person must be Trinitarian to be worshiping the one true God.

Anything other is to worship a false god.
 
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My suspicion is that the Jews and Muslims worship the same God we worship.
No.

Jews & Muslims both deny the Son....thus, they cannot possibly be worshiping the same God on this point alone.
 
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Koran: Jesus not the son of God:

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is. Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: therefore serve Him; this is the Straight Way. [The Holy Qur'an, Surah 19:35-36][/FONT][/FONT]

The Bible teaches Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of GOd: - Jn 3:16


The Koran teaches Jesus did not die for our sins


...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God." They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... (Qur'an, 4:157)
Bible - Only begotten son of God, died for our sins - I Cor 15:3



Koran: find and kill unbelievers

Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
(Qur'an 9:5)


Bible - seek and save unbelievers - LUKE 19:10




The Koran denies that Jesus is the Son of God, denies that he died for sin, and denies he ever resurrected. According to the Bible, this is the definition of an anti-Christ (I Jn 2:22-23).

Now how can they be the same God?

Does God in one book exalt Christ as the son of God, and give him to die for our sins, then in another book deny Christ ever died for sins, nor was His son?

The Koran is evil and not from God.





I think Jesus is God in flesh. We Christians follow Jesus, which is the same as following God. I suspect Jews and Muslims follow God, too. They are not perfect—neither are we.
 
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No.

Jews & Muslims both deny the Son....thus, they cannot possibly be worshiping the same God on this point alone.
I think Jesus is God in flesh. Jews and Muslims are wrong to believe that Jesus is not God in flesh. However, that doesn’t mean they aren’t following God.
 
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Jesus Christ is the Author and Finisher of our faith. Jesus is our Mediator between God and man. Jesus' sacrifice bought our redemption. We see love personified in Jesus. There is only ONE way to God, through Jesus. How can religions that do not acknowledge His sacrifice, His deity, or even His existence still be 'following God'? Can you have salvation without Jesus?
 
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I think Jesus is God in flesh. Jews and Muslims are wrong to believe that Jesus is not God in flesh. However, that doesn’t mean they aren’t following God.
How can they be following God if they don't believe in God's sacrifice that covers their sin?
 
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I think Jesus is God in flesh. Jews and Muslims are wrong to believe that Jesus is not God in flesh. However, that doesn’t mean they aren’t following God.
How can they be following God if they don't even believe that God is Who He says He is?
 
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How can they be following God if they don't believe in God's sacrifice that covers their sin?
Jesus told us to do two things: Love the Lord our God with all our hearts, minds, souls, and love our neighbors as ourselves. You don’t have to be a Christian to do these two things, do you?
 
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Jesus told us to do two things: Love the Lord our God with all our hearts, minds, souls, and love our neighbors as ourselves. You don’t have to be a Christian to do these two things, do you?
Um...yes. You do have to be a 'Christian' in order to love God with all your heart, mind, and soul. Do you disagree?
 
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How can they be following God if they don't even believe that God is Who He says He is?
Did God want us all to be Christians? As long as we love him with all our hearts, minds, and souls, and love our neighbors as ourselves, isn’t that good enough? We Christians know that Jesus is God in flesh, but do we NEED to know that to please God?