How can we know if the sabbath was what we call sunday or saturday?

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Melach

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another sabbath thread. you heard that.

when God sanctified the seventh day, how do we know if that was what we call today sunday or saturday?

in the 1st century they had different calendar in use too, how do we know if its what we call sunday or saturday today? i ask only because some cults make a big deal out of the day. and isnt it nice to be right?

is there any way to prove this one way or another that which day is "right"? (this isnt one of those SDA salvation sabbath threads pls dont make it one)

one argument ive heard used for saturday is that jews think its the sabbath. but really these guys go out of their way to switch things up by adding oral tradition and whatever is needed to make sure they dont have to believe in Jesus whose clearly in isaiah 53 and many places.

one argument ive heard used for sunday is that early church gathered on first day of the week when Jesus rose so that the sabbath.
 

Dino246

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Perhaps you could clarify, as you seem to be addressing several issues. Is this your question:

Does the day originally called "Sabbath" fall on our Saturday or on our Sunday?

If so, is that the only thing you're asking, or is there more?
 

JaumeJ

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To the title; Believe God and not the vote of men...….
 

Nehemiah6

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when God sanctified the seventh day, how do we know if that was what we call today sunday or saturday?
The first day of creation week was also the first day of the work week for humans. The seventh day was therefore the Sabbath (known lately as Saturday). Thus the first day of the week became "the morrow after the sabbath" (also the eighth day).

However, the first day of the week is now the Lord's Day (known lately as Sunday or the day of the sun), and therefore the Christian sabbath. Only unbelieving Jews and some 7th day cultists observe the Jewish sabbath.
 

Roughsoul1991

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  1. I worship on Sunday because I do not have work.
  2. Historically the early church met on the 1st of the week known as the Lord's Day. Because of the 3 day event that led to the resurrection. John 20:1 The Empty Tomb
    20 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance.
  3. In Hebrews 4:3-73 Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,
    “So I declared on oath in my anger,
    ‘They shall never enter my rest.’” And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world. 4 For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.”5 And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”
    6 Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, 7 God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:
    Today, if you hear his voice,
    do not harden your hearts.”
The Sabbath has a deeper spiritual meaning other than a legalistic practice. We find our rest in Christ Jesus. A daily reliance through our faith in the promise rest to come.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.

The place of worship is no longer the building. If we are the temple of the Holy Spirit then every day is to worship the Lord.
Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts.”


Matthew 12:6-8
6 I tell you that something greater than the temple is here. 7 If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”


If doesn't get anymore obvious. Hear the words of Paul.

Romans 14:5-6
5 In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable. 6 Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him. Those who eat any kind of food do so to honor the Lord, since they give thanks to God before eating. And those who refuse to eat certain foods also want to please the Lord and give thanks to God.

You must understand what Christ's fulfillment of the law of the Prophets meant. He was to fulfill the moral and ceremonial needs by his life and sacrificial death. Thus a new covenant came into order not to do away or abolish the old but fulfilled it.
Galatians 6:2
2 Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.

We are now under the law of Christ which hinges of faith in Christ. Grace comes through faith in Christ alone and not by works as in you must worship on this day or be killed as the OT commanded.

Thank you Jesus for that change!

Does God get tired and need rest? Of course not. The Sabbath was only made for man because man needs rest. This is why still teach the Biblical truths within the OT because they are still the Word of God, Holy, and true. With living words. Words for a certain purpose to the ancient Israelites but still speaks wisdom into our lives today. We still need a day of rest.

Back to Paul. If you view one day more holy than another then do what's right in your conscience but dont cause others to stumble on such matters. Dont be a legalist. Become what you need to be to help save the souls of others.

Just my 2 cents.
 

Melach

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Perhaps you could clarify, as you seem to be addressing several issues. Is this your question:

Does the day originally called "Sabbath" fall on our Saturday or on our Sunday?

If so, is that the only thing you're asking, or is there more?
sorry. yes thats my only question. is it saturday or sunday the sabbath and is there any proof for it either way that was my question.
 

Roughsoul1991

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sorry. yes thats my only question. is it saturday or sunday the sabbath and is there any proof for it either way that was my question.
  • 90AD DIDACHE: "Christian Assembly on the Lord's Day: 1. But every Lord's day do ye gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. 2. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned. 3. For this is that which was spoken by the Lord: In every place and time offer to me a pure sacrifice; for I am a great King, saith the Lord, and my name is wonderful among the nations." (Didache: The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles, Chapter XIV)
  • 100 AD BARNABAS "We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (The Epistle of Barnabas, 100 AD 15:6-8).
  • 100 AD BARNABAS: Moreover God says to the Jews, 'Your new moons and Sabbaths 1 cannot endure.' You see how he says, 'The present Sabbaths are not acceptable to me, but the Sabbath which I have made in which, when I have rested [heaven: Heb 4] from all things, I will make the beginning of the eighth day which is the beginning of another world.' Wherefore we Christians keep the eighth day for joy, on which also Jesus arose from the dead and when he appeared ascended into heaven. (15:8f, The Epistle of Barnabas, 100 AD, Ante-Nicene Fathers , vol. 1, pg. 147)