How can you really really really know you are saved?
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Personal experiences or feelings cannot assure us of salvation. The God of the Bible is not a god of confusion. If God assures us through personal experiences or feelings your story or any other story would be of little help to others. Do you have any verses to share about this issue?
What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus was not to assure him that he was saved but to prepare him for service.
What happened to Paul on the road to Damascus was not to assure him that he was saved but to prepare him for service.
well, i was getting to knowing. lol
do you love God.... at all? do you try to follow Him?
if your answer is yes, you must know "we love Him because He first loved us."
we can have no love for God, for His ways, unless we have first been loved by Him.
do you see yourself there?
do you love God.... at all? do you try to follow Him?
if your answer is yes, you must know "we love Him because He first loved us."
we can have no love for God, for His ways, unless we have first been loved by Him.
do you see yourself there?
Does it matter to God where I see myself?
It is where I am that matters.
We can "think" many bogus things about ourselves but these thoughts hold no weight before God.
I am rather surprised by how much circular reasoning is being used on this thread and not being called out.
Hello DJ2, this is the first time I have replied to your post.
When God first saved me I had many questions about my new faith in Jesus. Further more there will be people you know who you thought for sure would be in heaven, that are not; and there will be people in heaven who you thought would never make it but they did. Only God knows who is truly saved and who is not.
Christians have the comfort of the scriptures to teach us and give us hope; It is not impossible to know that you are saved, read and study the bible and find a good rock solid Church to grow in your faith and you will begin to develop trust in Jesus.
"I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that; you may know that you have eternal life." 1John5:13; (the future is not impossible to know)
"For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement they provide we might have hope.
God bless.
When God first saved me I had many questions about my new faith in Jesus. Further more there will be people you know who you thought for sure would be in heaven, that are not; and there will be people in heaven who you thought would never make it but they did. Only God knows who is truly saved and who is not.
Christians have the comfort of the scriptures to teach us and give us hope; It is not impossible to know that you are saved, read and study the bible and find a good rock solid Church to grow in your faith and you will begin to develop trust in Jesus.
"I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that; you may know that you have eternal life." 1John5:13; (the future is not impossible to know)
"For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement they provide we might have hope.
God bless.
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continued: It could also be said that when one enters into a covenant relationship with God in a season of godly sorrow through the baptism of repentance> like Paul did in Damascus without food or water for 3 days. Whereas Paul was once formerly the chief of sinners, he now put off the old man of sin, in that he ceased from his own works of sin, having entered into Christs’ rest walking in the new man of righteousness........be blessed
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 1 Corinthians 15:56
Jesus paid the price for sin due under the law with the shedding of
His righteous blood He is our Passover Lamb. If we are covered
by grace through faith, in this shedding of blood to pay the sin debt,
then we are saved from the second death.
Jesus paid the price for sin due under the law with the shedding of
His righteous blood
He is our Passover Lamb. If we are covered by grace through faith, in this shedding of blood to pay the sin debt,
then we are saved from the second death.
I have been attempting to illustrate for you that it is the Holy Spirit who makes believing real. Man believing of his own volition means nothing. Faith, saving faith comes from hearing the word of God. It is the Holy Spirit who makes the faith living faith and efficacious in salvation.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
For the cause of Christ
Roger
How you can know; you can know by applying yourself to reading the word of God.
"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Romans10:17
Christians have the comfort of the scriptures to teach us and give us hope; It is not impossible to know that you are saved, read and study the bible and find a good rock solid Church to grow in your faith and you will begin to develop trust in Jesus.
"I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that; you may know that you have eternal life." 1John5:13; (the future is not impossible to know)
"For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement they provide we might have hope.
God bless.
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By simply believing God and accepting what He says about assurance.
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God (Rom 8:16).
I also pointed out that the first epistle of John gives at least 5-10 litmus tests to confirm whether we are indeed children of God. It looks like you did not bother to study that epistle.
if you won't accept your own testimony, won't accept the testimony of scripture, and won't accept the testimony of the Spirit -- what exactly is going to be sufficient for you?
like, are you expecting to get some kind of notarized document in the mail? that can probably be arranged ((though personally i might doubt its authenticity & authority))