How do we view heretic hunters websites that supposedly expose error?

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Grace777x70

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InSpiritInTruth said:
I was commenting on this part of your OP--->>>>

So what I said was on topic, as it pertained to your comment above contained in the OP. :)
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Sorry but that is NOT the OP...the questions were given in post #2 if you want to review them again and give us your opinion. Your opinion has worth just like the rest of us. Thank you.
 
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It can help onlookers decipher if the person in question is indeed a heretic or not. Just as those hunters can be in error and saved, so can the person being called out.. Hunters whether they realize it or not are teaching, they should for themselves know and be sure bc their words are not overlooked by God.. Teachers have high accountability
 
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It can help onlookers decipher if the person in question is indeed a heretic or not. Just as those hunters can be in error and saved, so can the person being called out.. Hunters whether they realize it or not are teaching, they should for themselves know and be sure bc their words are not overlooked by God.. Teachers have high accountability
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Amen...when teaching it is important to build on the foundation - which is Christ Himself.
 
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Are you really only 16? Wow - you have a calling on your life.
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She's really something, isn't she?!
And she so often has to hear it in one way or another.

So many times she's had to hear, 'Ahhh, you're only 16, what do you know?' or else she hears, 'Gosh, you're only 16?! You're so so knowledgeable for someone so young!'

(I WOULD say, 'Poor thing, she must get tired of hearing about her age', but she'd probly beat me up.) Lol
(Yeah, she's that tough, too! :p )

But God bless her. And we are blessed to have a quite a few very solid young believers on this site, ... Demi777 being one right at the top of that list.

Amen to your comment and GBU, Joidevivre.


(Hi, Demi777 !!! * ~kneadly sends a hug) :cool:
 
InSpiritInTruth

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Grace777x70 said:

Sorry but that is NOT the OP...the questions were given in post #2 if you want to review them again and give us your opinion. Your opinion has worth just like the rest of us. Thank you.
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Yep, that comment was on part 2 of the 2 page OP, see---->>>
This will be a 2 post OP. This 1st one is to set up the premise and then 2nd one is to ask questions to see how we are to view this subject.

There are lot's of self-proclaimed heretic hunters on the internet. To them everyone is a heretic.
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By the way, I view your premise above as faulty, because I don't believe they think "everyone is a heretic". Just sayin :)
 
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mikeys4grace said:
She's really something, isn't she?!
And she so often has to hear it in one way or another.

So many times she's had to hear, 'Ahhh, you're only 16, what do you know?' or else she hears, 'Gosh, you're only 16?! You're so so knowledgeable for someone so young!'

(I WOULD say, 'Poor thing, she must get tired of hearing about her age', but she'd probly beat me up.) Lol
(Yeah, she's that tough, too! :p )

But God bless her. And we are blessed to have a quite a few very solid young believers on this site, ... Demi777 being one right at the top of that list.

Amen to your comment and GBU, Joidevivre.


(Hi, Demi777 !!! * ~kneadly sends a hug) :cool:
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OMG hows kneadly doing!! I miss talking to him hes awesome :)
Yeah people say this ''oh r u really 16 alalala'' A LOT. Its often that or ''God doesnt use ppl your age stop doing ministry blablabla'' I just giggle at that tho.
lol God bless you too haha. I am glad that I am a pleasant surprise to many. Theres not a lot of my kind out there.. Especially when it comes to the ''outspokenness'' Well my friend many many hugs back :D
 
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HisHolly said:
It can help onlookers decipher if the person in question is indeed a heretic or not. Just as those hunters can be in error and saved, so can the person being called out.. Hunters whether they realize it or not are teaching, they should for themselves know and be sure bc their words are not overlooked by God.. Teachers have high accountability
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Excellent point, HisHolly !!!!! :)

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Amen...when teaching it is important to build on the foundation - which is Christ Himself.
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And Ditto, brother!
 
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InSpiritInTruth said:
Yep, that comment was on part 2 of the 2 page OP, see---->>>

By the way, I view your premise above as faulty, because I don't believe they think "everyone is a heretic". Just sayin :)
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ok..thanks for your opinion.
 
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OMG hows kneadly doing!! I miss talking to him hes awesome :)
Yeah people say this ''oh r u really 16 alalala'' A LOT. Its often that or ''God doesnt use ppl your age stop doing ministry blablabla'' I just giggle at that tho.
lol God bless you too haha. I am glad that I am a pleasant surprise to many. Theres not a lot of my kind out there.. Especially when it comes to the ''outspokenness'' Well my friend many many hugs back :D
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Awww, that's so nice! I gotta get back to live chat sometimes, ... I miss hearing the way you'd say my name, though ... you would pronounce the 'k' , like 'ka-neadly' and it always brought me a smile :) but since that was only temporary on the mobile ...... :(
(now I have kind of an awkward name ... (but it's like me, awkward, so I guess it fits), but thx for the warm friendship over there.... I still have to get the subscription fixed, I can't enter there from the main page, I still have to go through the app :p
But, we'll figure it out.

(sorry to sidetrack the thread, but ya gotta watch the PM thing.
It's an AGE appropriate issue thing ..... she's ONLY 16 !!! Lol !!! ) :cool:
 
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mikeys4grace said:
Awww, that's so nice! I gotta get back to live chat sometimes, ... I miss hearing the way you'd say my name, though ... you would pronounce the 'k' , like 'ka-neadly' and it always brought me a smile :) but since that was only temporary on the mobile ...... :(
(now I have kind of an awkward name ... (but it's like me, awkward, so I guess it fits), but thx for the warm friendship over there.... I still have to get the subscription fixed, I can't enter there from the main page, I still have to go through the app :p
But, we'll figure it out.

(sorry to sidetrack the thread, but ya gotta watch the PM thing.
It's an AGE appropriate issue thing ..... she's ONLY 16 !!! Lol !!! ) :cool:
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Youll laugh but when I saw that new name I thought you were a lady lol!!! Ive been around a bit less through college (been using the app in my breaks when I can) been busy. Just failed a exam and I hope the rest will get better..Getting a bit worried now but God will guide me through :p Ttyl :D
 
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Demi777 said:
Youll laugh but when I saw that new name I thought you were a lady lol!!! Ive been around a bit less through college (been using the app in my breaks when I can) been busy. Just failed a exam and I hope the rest will get better..Getting a bit worried now but God will guide me through :p Ttyl :D
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You're in my prayers right now for scholastic achievement and success in Jesus' name. Amen.

( Lady indeed! :mad: Why, I oughta........

thank you for the compliment ;) )
 
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mikeys4grace said:
You're in my prayers right now for scholastic achievement and success in Jesus' name. Amen.

( Lady indeed! :mad: Why, I oughta........

thank you for the compliment ;) )
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Well I read ''Milkeys4Grace'' so I thought of a candy bar..which made me think of chocolate..and ladies like chocolate..LOL
Hugs thanks for praying for me :p I need it lol
 
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Grace777x70 said:
The purpose of this OP is to see how we are to view all the people that are supposedly heretics to someone or to some group.

For example to those that believe in speaking in tongues and actually do pray in tongues on a daily basis to their Father - they have been called heretics by whole denominations because they don't agree with this doctrine.

This will be a 2 post OP. This 1st one is to set up the premise and then 2nd one is to ask questions to see how we are to view this subject.

There are lot's of self-proclaimed heretic hunters on the internet. To them everyone is a heretic.

There are websites dedicated to the heretic Billy Graham, Billy Sunday, Charles Spurgeon, Charles Stanley, D.L. Moody, C.S. Lewis, John McArthur, Paul Washer, Joseph Prince, Dr. Michael Brown, Justin Peters, Bill Johnson, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Andrew Wommack...etc..basically anyone who is known has a website dedicated to their "heresies".

There are even websites dedicated to the heretic apostle Paul because his epistles "conflict" with some of Jesus' words.

Basically these self-proclaimed heretic hunters have a beef about some thing with what someone else believes and so they are now "heretics".

Their motto is: "If people don't believe some scriptures in the way that"they"do - they are heretics and they try to prove it with "their" version of what the scriptures say.." This is not what we were taught in "my" church or in our whole church tradition.

It's the nature of the beast. Martin Luther was a heretic to the catholic church at the time because for 1100 years prior to Luther they had always "believed" the same way.

Where these types cross the line is when they turn a disagreement that they have with someone doctrinally on a secondary issue and turn it into "So and so is a false teacher and they are in error and a heretic/satanist/controlled by a demon" type stuff.
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As you already know, my brother, I don't really spend time dealing with heretics or heretic hunters unless they're one of our fly-by Catholic trolls trying to get a few jabs in before getting the boot. My bread n butter is slaying Pharisees. That and slow drivers in the fast lane.
 
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As you already know, my brother, I don't really spend time dealing with heretics or heretic hunters unless they're one of our fly-by Catholic trolls trying to get a few jabs in before getting the boot. My bread n butter is slaying Pharisees. That and slow drivers in the fast lane.
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Not a word about libs ???!!!!!! You're not giving up the ship, are ya, brother? Say it ain't so !!! :cool:
 
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mikeys4grace said:
Not a word about libs ???!!!!!! You're not giving up the ship, are ya, brother? Say it ain't so !!! :cool:
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no libs, no lbs and no ribs....thats why he isnt spending time on it. Aint nothin comin outta it :D
 
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Not a word about libs ???!!!!!! You're not giving up the ship, are ya, brother? Say it ain't so !!! :cool:
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No way, bro. Think of it as an involuntary muscle that automatically works without our having to think about it. That's how it is with me taking down liberals; the fight will always go on. Lol.
 
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So, does anyone have some more thoughts on the questions in post #2? ( no pesky libs allowed to answer....lol.....:) )
 
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Grace777x70 said:
So, does anyone have some more thoughts on the questions in post #2? ( no pesky libs allowed to answer....lol.....:) )
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I forgot about it.. I'll do it first thing after sign in.. Enjoy your evening
 
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Another thing to look for on a website that claims to "out" various false teachers is to not only look at WHAT the author is presenting as evidence, but also HOW the material is being presented.

IOW, many "heresy" websites have all kinds of flashy graphics, pictures, big fonts (underlined and italicized) and ALL CAPS.

OTOH, most reputable sites which expose false teachers are a lot more subdued and concise in their presentations. :)
 
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NotmebutHim said:
Another thing to look for on a website that claims to "out" various false teachers is to not only look at WHAT the author is presenting as evidence, but also HOW the material is being presented.

IOW, many "heresy" websites have all kinds of flashy graphics, pictures, big fonts (underlined and italicized) and ALL CAPS.

OTOH, most reputable sites which expose false teachers are a lot more subdued and concise in their presentations. :)
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I agree...that does seem to be the case in that they do have all kinds of graphics like putting devil outfits on them and wolf heads and also the evil morose music that re-inforces" how deadly these supposed "heretics" are.

There are other ones that are more subdued as you suggested - perhaps they have a different personality and also like to present their "opinions" in a different manner which to me makes them look more credible but even these types still need to be viewed through some kind of a filter because I don't think that just because they have a quieter and more thorough way of presenting what they believe - this constitutes them calling others a heretic because they differ in a view of a subject nor does it mean necessarily that their view is correct either.

We really need the Holy Spirit to reveal the things of God and the work of the Lord Jesus Christ to us. We are at His mercy when it comes to this area because all truth is spiritually discerned.


What do you think?

When you look at the websites that condemn Billy Graham - some of them are well written but the bottom line is that they still do not agree with a subject that Graham has talked about and so he is a "heretic" to them.
 
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