How freewill salvation perverts God's Justice !
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The Cross Crucifies from the World !
Gal 6:14
14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
What does Paul mean by this ? Paul as well as every True Believers doeth realizes the power of the Death of Christ for all whom He died, by it, all for whom He died the world is crucified to them, and they unto the world.
This means that by the Cross of Christ , all those He died for are delivered from false world religion. With Paul it was the false religion of Judaism. Remember his testimony Phil 3:4-6
4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
That was the world he was now crucified to solely because of the Cross. False religion is called the world here Col 2:8,20
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
Its all the different false philosophies of the cursed religious world under the domain of satan, the evil world system.
When Jesus uses the word world here Jn 15:18
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
He is not talking about fornicators, drunkards, and so forth, the world here is primarily Judaism, the false system of worship of national Israel. However the Cross Crucifies His Sheep from whatever false religion they may be involved with.
If its Judaism, roman Catholicism, arminianism, freewillism, or whatever sect or cult they may be in, or even if they are not religious at all, but just caught up in worldliness in general, the Cross delivers them from the world.
Gal 1:4
Who gave himself for our sins, that /so that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
To deliver us from this present evil world, that includes its false religions, the great whore and mystery Babylon.
The same Truth is Taught here Heb 9:14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ[Christ Crucified], who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
You know what one of things dead works is ? Its false religion, religions without Christ, like the jews had in Judaism and which some of the jews the Writer was then writing were in danger of returning to !
But by the Grace of God today, I glory in Christ Crucified by whom the world was crucified unto me and I unto the world. It was not my freewill, my decision, none of that flesh boasting activity, but solely by the Power of the Blood of Christ and Him Crucified !840
Gal 6:14
14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
What does Paul mean by this ? Paul as well as every True Believers doeth realizes the power of the Death of Christ for all whom He died, by it, all for whom He died the world is crucified to them, and they unto the world.
This means that by the Cross of Christ , all those He died for are delivered from false world religion. With Paul it was the false religion of Judaism. Remember his testimony Phil 3:4-6
4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
That was the world he was now crucified to solely because of the Cross. False religion is called the world here Col 2:8,20
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
Its all the different false philosophies of the cursed religious world under the domain of satan, the evil world system.
When Jesus uses the word world here Jn 15:18
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
He is not talking about fornicators, drunkards, and so forth, the world here is primarily Judaism, the false system of worship of national Israel. However the Cross Crucifies His Sheep from whatever false religion they may be involved with.
If its Judaism, roman Catholicism, arminianism, freewillism, or whatever sect or cult they may be in, or even if they are not religious at all, but just caught up in worldliness in general, the Cross delivers them from the world.
Gal 1:4
Who gave himself for our sins, that /so that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
To deliver us from this present evil world, that includes its false religions, the great whore and mystery Babylon.
The same Truth is Taught here Heb 9:14
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ[Christ Crucified], who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
You know what one of things dead works is ? Its false religion, religions without Christ, like the jews had in Judaism and which some of the jews the Writer was then writing were in danger of returning to !
But by the Grace of God today, I glory in Christ Crucified by whom the world was crucified unto me and I unto the world. It was not my freewill, my decision, none of that flesh boasting activity, but solely by the Power of the Blood of Christ and Him Crucified !840
My old answers to your questions:
To receive personal rewards in heaven, if someone was predestined to believe and if I didn't expose the gospel to him, someone else would (I would lose a reward). We don't know who is predestined to hear and who isn't (only God knows). Because God commanded us to take the gospel the whole world in spite of that they are already saved.
To receive personal rewards in heaven, if someone was predestined to believe and if I didn't expose the gospel to him, someone else would (I would lose a reward). We don't know who is predestined to hear and who isn't (only God knows). Because God commanded us to take the gospel the whole world in spite of that they are already saved.
God never intended life by the Law !
Gal 2:21
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Gal 3:21
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
This is a lesson that the natural man will never learn, he will always seek life out of law keeping in some form or other, and unfortunately those who remain in that mindset are under the curse of the Law.
Now if God never intended Eternal Life by means of keeping the Law, why did Jesus respond to the question of the young man here in this manner Matt 19:15-22
Well what Jesus was showing this young man is that no one can do that which is required to inherit Eternal Life.
Yes, if he could have done it, he would have a right to enter in Eternal Life based upon his own doings.
But God never intended Eternal Life based upon man keeping the Law, it was always based upon a promise of Grace, this was Established before the World Began Titus 1:1-2
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
2
Paul also makes it clear that the Inhritance of Eternal Life was promised before the Law was Given Gal 3:16-21
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
In fact the Promise was given before any law was given to Adam in the garden, because the promise is from before the World began Titus 1:2
2 In hope of eternal life and or Inheritance, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Now if these things be True, how do we see verses like this Rom 2:7,10-13
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
The reason is this, its because of Christ, The Eternal Inheritance was to be gained not by man keeping the Law, but God Man in Christ. It was premised on His Law Keeping both in Righteous Living and enduring the Penalty of sinners that through Him all the Promises of Eternal Inheritance was to be gained. As the Covenant Head of the People He was to Isa 42:21
21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.
That was the End of the Law Given, for Christ to magnify it and make it Honorable by His Redemptive Life and Death, other than that, it was given to the People to show them their sinfulness and the reason why they should look forward to the Coming Seed who would do it for them Gal 3:18-19
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come[Christ] to whom the promise was made[Before the Foundation]; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
The Seed Christ was to keep the Law for the Seed of Promise ! So God never intended life by the Law as far as man keeping the law was concerned for it, but He did intend it by means the Mediator Keeping it on their behalf thereby magnifying it and making it Honorable !842
Gal 2:21
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Gal 3:21
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
This is a lesson that the natural man will never learn, he will always seek life out of law keeping in some form or other, and unfortunately those who remain in that mindset are under the curse of the Law.
Now if God never intended Eternal Life by means of keeping the Law, why did Jesus respond to the question of the young man here in this manner Matt 19:15-22
Well what Jesus was showing this young man is that no one can do that which is required to inherit Eternal Life.
Yes, if he could have done it, he would have a right to enter in Eternal Life based upon his own doings.
But God never intended Eternal Life based upon man keeping the Law, it was always based upon a promise of Grace, this was Established before the World Began Titus 1:1-2
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
2
Paul also makes it clear that the Inhritance of Eternal Life was promised before the Law was Given Gal 3:16-21
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
In fact the Promise was given before any law was given to Adam in the garden, because the promise is from before the World began Titus 1:2
2 In hope of eternal life and or Inheritance, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Now if these things be True, how do we see verses like this Rom 2:7,10-13
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
The reason is this, its because of Christ, The Eternal Inheritance was to be gained not by man keeping the Law, but God Man in Christ. It was premised on His Law Keeping both in Righteous Living and enduring the Penalty of sinners that through Him all the Promises of Eternal Inheritance was to be gained. As the Covenant Head of the People He was to Isa 42:21
21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.
That was the End of the Law Given, for Christ to magnify it and make it Honorable by His Redemptive Life and Death, other than that, it was given to the People to show them their sinfulness and the reason why they should look forward to the Coming Seed who would do it for them Gal 3:18-19
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come[Christ] to whom the promise was made[Before the Foundation]; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
The Seed Christ was to keep the Law for the Seed of Promise ! So God never intended life by the Law as far as man keeping the law was concerned for it, but He did intend it by means the Mediator Keeping it on their behalf thereby magnifying it and making it Honorable !842
False teachers deny Adam's Federal Headship !
Many false teachers in this day do deny the federal headship of Adam in the beginning and so teach contrary to what has been revealed by scripture.
The scripture by the inspired Apostle Paul teaches Adam's federal headship over all men in him in the beginning, so much so that in the Divine Reckoning of things when Adam sinned, likewise did all for whom he federally represented sinned. Now lets prove this by reading the followingRom 5:12,15,16,17,18,19
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
These scriptures makes Adam's federal headship so crystal clear, that only depraved and darkened minds would dare oppose them, for their minds have been blinded by the god of this world so they cannot receive the Love of the Truth. For the all wise God set it up that in the beginning Adam acted in behalf of all persons that would generate from Him, who of course were the sons of God in their natural states Lk 3:38
38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Remember it was through Seth, the replaced seed of Eve, Abel that men began to call upon the Name of the Lord, which would be the Elect Sons of God Gen 4:25-26
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.843
Many false teachers in this day do deny the federal headship of Adam in the beginning and so teach contrary to what has been revealed by scripture.
The scripture by the inspired Apostle Paul teaches Adam's federal headship over all men in him in the beginning, so much so that in the Divine Reckoning of things when Adam sinned, likewise did all for whom he federally represented sinned. Now lets prove this by reading the followingRom 5:12,15,16,17,18,19
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
These scriptures makes Adam's federal headship so crystal clear, that only depraved and darkened minds would dare oppose them, for their minds have been blinded by the god of this world so they cannot receive the Love of the Truth. For the all wise God set it up that in the beginning Adam acted in behalf of all persons that would generate from Him, who of course were the sons of God in their natural states Lk 3:38
38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Remember it was through Seth, the replaced seed of Eve, Abel that men began to call upon the Name of the Lord, which would be the Elect Sons of God Gen 4:25-26
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.843
Denying the Justifying worth of the Blood of Christ !
Those false teachers and those who follow them who teach that before one can be Justified before God, that they must first act faith or believe or repent or some other Gospel dutie of obedience, what they are being guilty of before God, they are guilty of depriving Christ's precious blood of it's infinite Justifying merit before God, they teach that not until mans faith or act of obedience of some type, Christ's blood in Justifying one before God counts as nothing ! It in and of itself for them did not Justify them before God's Law and Justice, but it must wait for the creatures motion or performance before it can have its rightful Glory. This is just as bad as trampling under foot the blood of Christ, for they are saying in essence that Hs Blood alone is not sufficient enough for God to justify sinners that it was shed for Matt 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Without their act of obedience, hence denying the plain Truth of Rom 5:19b
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.844
Those false teachers and those who follow them who teach that before one can be Justified before God, that they must first act faith or believe or repent or some other Gospel dutie of obedience, what they are being guilty of before God, they are guilty of depriving Christ's precious blood of it's infinite Justifying merit before God, they teach that not until mans faith or act of obedience of some type, Christ's blood in Justifying one before God counts as nothing ! It in and of itself for them did not Justify them before God's Law and Justice, but it must wait for the creatures motion or performance before it can have its rightful Glory. This is just as bad as trampling under foot the blood of Christ, for they are saying in essence that Hs Blood alone is not sufficient enough for God to justify sinners that it was shed for Matt 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Without their act of obedience, hence denying the plain Truth of Rom 5:19b
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.844
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I think some tend to forget that just because one says "Yes, I believe in Jesus Christ! Yes, he died on the cross. Yes. He is my Lord and Savior", doesn't mean he believes this in his heart. Doesn't mean he has given himself and his life to Christ. Doesn't mean he loves God with his heart, soul, mind and strength. Only God knows what's truly in our hearts. Having faith in Jesus Christ, true faith, means more than repeating carefully chosen scripture. Remember:
Preach the gospel, and if necessary, use words.
Preach the gospel, and if necessary, use words.
Must we accept Christ's blood to be Justified ?
Must we accept Christ's blood to be Justified before God ? Folks one of the biggest lies n false religion today is that of, in order for one to be Justified before God by Christ's blood that He shed for them Matt 26:28; Rom 5:9 , it is that they must first accept it as a gift, then only after we accept it, God then Justifies them before His Law and Justice, again that is a Lie, and it belittles and discredits the precious blood of Christ ! Now the Truth is, that those He died for or shed His Blood for, they do not have to accept anything or nothing in order for God to Justify them before His Law and Justice, and the only one that must accept Christ's blood for their Justification before Him is God Himself, that's Right, it was a Gift Offered to God from Christ the altar and the Gift Heb 13:10 !
That's Right Justification by the Blood for those Christ shed His Blood for was solely conditioned upon whether or not God would accept it as a ransom payment, and the fact that He did accept it and did Justify them before Himself, that fact is evidenced by God Raising Him up from the dead as per Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
25 Who was betrayed and put to death because of our misdeeds and was raised to secure our justification (our acquittal), [making our account balance and absolving us from all guilt before God].AMP
Yes that's right, the resurrection of Christ is a Living Testimony that His Shed Blood Justified before God, all those whom offences were charged to Him and whom He was delivered up in behalf of as Per Rom 4:25 !
So for all who falsely teach and say, that one for whom Christ died / shed His Blood, that they must accept it before God Justifies them before His Law and Justice, and acquit them from all guilt of sin, they are LIARS and ANTICHRIST, and Christ's Resurrection is a Testimony against them Rom 4:25 !845
Must we accept Christ's blood to be Justified before God ? Folks one of the biggest lies n false religion today is that of, in order for one to be Justified before God by Christ's blood that He shed for them Matt 26:28; Rom 5:9 , it is that they must first accept it as a gift, then only after we accept it, God then Justifies them before His Law and Justice, again that is a Lie, and it belittles and discredits the precious blood of Christ ! Now the Truth is, that those He died for or shed His Blood for, they do not have to accept anything or nothing in order for God to Justify them before His Law and Justice, and the only one that must accept Christ's blood for their Justification before Him is God Himself, that's Right, it was a Gift Offered to God from Christ the altar and the Gift Heb 13:10 !
That's Right Justification by the Blood for those Christ shed His Blood for was solely conditioned upon whether or not God would accept it as a ransom payment, and the fact that He did accept it and did Justify them before Himself, that fact is evidenced by God Raising Him up from the dead as per Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
25 Who was betrayed and put to death because of our misdeeds and was raised to secure our justification (our acquittal), [making our account balance and absolving us from all guilt before God].AMP
Yes that's right, the resurrection of Christ is a Living Testimony that His Shed Blood Justified before God, all those whom offences were charged to Him and whom He was delivered up in behalf of as Per Rom 4:25 !
So for all who falsely teach and say, that one for whom Christ died / shed His Blood, that they must accept it before God Justifies them before His Law and Justice, and acquit them from all guilt of sin, they are LIARS and ANTICHRIST, and Christ's Resurrection is a Testimony against them Rom 4:25 !845
Blessed us with all Spiritual Blessings !
Eph 1:3-4
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
All for whom God did choose in Christ before the foundation, was at that time blessed blessed with all spiritual blessings, in accordance with the Fact of having been chosen in Christ. Grace was given [in purpose] in Christ before the world began 2 Tim 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Now a few of those spiritual blessings bestowed upon them is #1 Justification from all sin, they have been once and for all by being Chosen in the Beloved accepted of God in Him Eph 1:6
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
What Grace ? Remember, Grace was given them when according to 2 Tim 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
And by that Grace, they have been accepted of God in Him. That word accepted caritovw :
to make graceful charming, lovely, agreeable
to peruse with grace, compass with favour
to honour with blessings
Its from the root Charis where we get the word Grace :
Also a Spiritual Blessing they have been blessed with is Sanctification and will be blessed with Regeneration, Wisdom,Illumination and Glorification, you see its automatic, where God gives Grace, He also gives Glory Ps 84:11
For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
To them that walk uprightly ! Well, everyone Christ died for walks Uprightly by Imputation, the Upright Life that their Surety Redeemer Lived upon the Earth has been freely imputed to them and its as if they have done it themselves, and so to them God will not withhold any good thing. Its like when Paul wrote Rom 8:32
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
These are Covenant Blessings received by them because of Christ's Work on their behalf alone !846
Eph 1:3-4
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
All for whom God did choose in Christ before the foundation, was at that time blessed blessed with all spiritual blessings, in accordance with the Fact of having been chosen in Christ. Grace was given [in purpose] in Christ before the world began 2 Tim 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Now a few of those spiritual blessings bestowed upon them is #1 Justification from all sin, they have been once and for all by being Chosen in the Beloved accepted of God in Him Eph 1:6
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
What Grace ? Remember, Grace was given them when according to 2 Tim 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
And by that Grace, they have been accepted of God in Him. That word accepted caritovw :
to make graceful charming, lovely, agreeable
to peruse with grace, compass with favour
to honour with blessings
Its from the root Charis where we get the word Grace :
Also a Spiritual Blessing they have been blessed with is Sanctification and will be blessed with Regeneration, Wisdom,Illumination and Glorification, you see its automatic, where God gives Grace, He also gives Glory Ps 84:11
For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
To them that walk uprightly ! Well, everyone Christ died for walks Uprightly by Imputation, the Upright Life that their Surety Redeemer Lived upon the Earth has been freely imputed to them and its as if they have done it themselves, and so to them God will not withhold any good thing. Its like when Paul wrote Rom 8:32
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
These are Covenant Blessings received by them because of Christ's Work on their behalf alone !846
[SUP]God creates.....
27 [/SUP]So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created HE HIM; male and female created HE THEM.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And God blessed THEM, and God said unto THEM, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue IT: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]And God said, Behold, "I" have given YOU every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to YOU IT shall be for meat.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, "I" have given every green herb for meat: and IT was so.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]And God saw every thing that HE had made, and, behold, IT was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day
And on the seventh day God ended HIS work which HE had made; and HE rested on the seventh day from all HIS work which HE had made.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified IT: because that in IT HE had rested from all HIS work which God created and made.
LORD God took out the "man" and put in HIM then Commanded HIM to keep IT and THOU, THEE, THY...
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And the Lord God took the man, and put HIM into the garden of Eden to dress IT and to keep IT.
And the Lord God "commanded" the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden THOU mayest freely eat:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, THOU shalt not eat of IT: for in the day that THOU eatest thereof THOU shalt surely die.
Use of YE imparted by the serpent....
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And HE said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, YE shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And the woman said unto the serpent, WE may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, YE shall not eat of IT, neither shall YE touch IT, lest YE die.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And the serpent said unto the woman, YE shall not surely die:
Use of I, ME after ...
And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto HIM, Where art THOU?
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And HE said, I heard THY voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And HE said, Who told THEE that THOU wast naked? Hast THOU eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded THEE that THOU shouldest not eat?
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the man said, The woman whom THOU gavest to be with ME, SHE gave ME of the tree, and I did eat.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that THOU hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled ME, and I did eat.
LORD God establishes new guidelines rendering THOU THEE THY powerless to I ME HE
And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And I(I inflicts sorrow and conception) will put enmity between THEE and the woman, and between THY seed and her seed; (I)--->It shall bruise THY(thy thou thee are the words cursed) head, and THOU shalt bruise HIS<---(I) heel.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
[SUP]19 [/SUP]In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of IT wast THOU taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Same still applies. Moses knew this
(I)<--(I causes the infliction) am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Thou shalt have no other gods before me(I is ME).
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Remember the sabbath day, to keep IT holy.(notice no thou, thee, thy)until.....
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou shalt not kill.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Thou shalt not commit adultery.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Thou shalt not steal.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
27 [/SUP]So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created HE HIM; male and female created HE THEM.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And God blessed THEM, and God said unto THEM, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue IT: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]And God said, Behold, "I" have given YOU every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to YOU IT shall be for meat.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, "I" have given every green herb for meat: and IT was so.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]And God saw every thing that HE had made, and, behold, IT was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day
And on the seventh day God ended HIS work which HE had made; and HE rested on the seventh day from all HIS work which HE had made.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified IT: because that in IT HE had rested from all HIS work which God created and made.
LORD God took out the "man" and put in HIM then Commanded HIM to keep IT and THOU, THEE, THY...
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And the Lord God took the man, and put HIM into the garden of Eden to dress IT and to keep IT.
And the Lord God "commanded" the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden THOU mayest freely eat:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, THOU shalt not eat of IT: for in the day that THOU eatest thereof THOU shalt surely die.
Use of YE imparted by the serpent....
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And HE said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, YE shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And the woman said unto the serpent, WE may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, YE shall not eat of IT, neither shall YE touch IT, lest YE die.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And the serpent said unto the woman, YE shall not surely die:
Use of I, ME after ...
And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto HIM, Where art THOU?
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And HE said, I heard THY voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And HE said, Who told THEE that THOU wast naked? Hast THOU eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded THEE that THOU shouldest not eat?
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the man said, The woman whom THOU gavest to be with ME, SHE gave ME of the tree, and I did eat.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that THOU hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled ME, and I did eat.
LORD God establishes new guidelines rendering THOU THEE THY powerless to I ME HE
And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And I(I inflicts sorrow and conception) will put enmity between THEE and the woman, and between THY seed and her seed; (I)--->It shall bruise THY(thy thou thee are the words cursed) head, and THOU shalt bruise HIS<---(I) heel.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
[SUP]19 [/SUP]In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of IT wast THOU taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Same still applies. Moses knew this
(I)<--(I causes the infliction) am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Thou shalt have no other gods before me(I is ME).
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Remember the sabbath day, to keep IT holy.(notice no thou, thee, thy)until.....
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou shalt not kill.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Thou shalt not commit adultery.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Thou shalt not steal.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Corrupting Rom 5:10
Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
One of the subtle heresies in false God forsaken religion is that which says that Christ's death does not save anyone in and of itself, but that His Life must save us, and then they point to Rom 5:10 for the proof of the same .
However, Rom 5:10 does not say or imply anything about Christ's death not saving those He died for, though it does state that those reconciled to God by His Death while being enemies, that they shall be saved by His Life, and that we do embrace, all for whom Christ died, though enemies they are by Nature and children of wrath Eph 2:3, they shall be saved by His Life. Now exactly what is Paul's meaning here ? Its this, every sinner that Christ hath died for, and completely done away with their sins and the penaly they incurred taken out the way, they must be made alive by the Spirit of Life See Rom 8:2.
The Spirit, because of the accomplishment of the redeeming death of Christ must give Spiritual Liberty and Life as a consequence of the same 2 Cor 3:17 Liberty from and out of spiritual death is included . Understand, the Spirit must give Life simply because the penalty of sin, death Rom 6:23 has been done away with for them !
Everyone Christ died for, His Blood purchased and obtained for them the deliverance from the penalty of their sins. Heb 9:12
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
This word redemption in the greek is lytrōsis and means:
I.
a ransoming, redemption
II.
deliverance, esp. from the penalty of sin
With this Truth being established and is a fact, then all for whom Christ died must be given Life, because death which is the wages of sin Rom 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
That penalty has been eternally paid in full !847
Rom 5:10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
One of the subtle heresies in false God forsaken religion is that which says that Christ's death does not save anyone in and of itself, but that His Life must save us, and then they point to Rom 5:10 for the proof of the same .
However, Rom 5:10 does not say or imply anything about Christ's death not saving those He died for, though it does state that those reconciled to God by His Death while being enemies, that they shall be saved by His Life, and that we do embrace, all for whom Christ died, though enemies they are by Nature and children of wrath Eph 2:3, they shall be saved by His Life. Now exactly what is Paul's meaning here ? Its this, every sinner that Christ hath died for, and completely done away with their sins and the penaly they incurred taken out the way, they must be made alive by the Spirit of Life See Rom 8:2.
The Spirit, because of the accomplishment of the redeeming death of Christ must give Spiritual Liberty and Life as a consequence of the same 2 Cor 3:17 Liberty from and out of spiritual death is included . Understand, the Spirit must give Life simply because the penalty of sin, death Rom 6:23 has been done away with for them !
Everyone Christ died for, His Blood purchased and obtained for them the deliverance from the penalty of their sins. Heb 9:12
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
This word redemption in the greek is lytrōsis and means:
I.
a ransoming, redemption
II.
deliverance, esp. from the penalty of sin
With this Truth being established and is a fact, then all for whom Christ died must be given Life, because death which is the wages of sin Rom 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
That penalty has been eternally paid in full !847
Corrupting Rom 5:10 2
Now with the penalty paid, death for all whom He died must be vanquished , and as evidence thereof, Life must be granted in its stead, and that Life is the evidence that they have been saved from a dead state, quickened Eph 2:1,5. See while we are yet enemies is due to being in a spiritually dead state, so all for whom He died must be saved out of a dead state, So Jesus says of all them He came to save by His death for them Jn 3:7
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Also scriptures like Eph 2:5 bear witness; For Christ by His Resurrected life has been made a Life giving Spirit, giving Spiritual Life by His Spirit, to all the dead sinners, He paid their penalty of death in behalf of, and by this they are saved by His Life;
But that's not to say as false teachers do that deny Christ, that nobody is saved by His Death in and of itself, for that's false and its blasphemy, and they have no business pretending to preach Christ and Him Crucified, and may they give in account in the day of Judgment unto their Eternal Ruin and Shame !848
Now with the penalty paid, death for all whom He died must be vanquished , and as evidence thereof, Life must be granted in its stead, and that Life is the evidence that they have been saved from a dead state, quickened Eph 2:1,5. See while we are yet enemies is due to being in a spiritually dead state, so all for whom He died must be saved out of a dead state, So Jesus says of all them He came to save by His death for them Jn 3:7
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Also scriptures like Eph 2:5 bear witness; For Christ by His Resurrected life has been made a Life giving Spirit, giving Spiritual Life by His Spirit, to all the dead sinners, He paid their penalty of death in behalf of, and by this they are saved by His Life;
But that's not to say as false teachers do that deny Christ, that nobody is saved by His Death in and of itself, for that's false and its blasphemy, and they have no business pretending to preach Christ and Him Crucified, and may they give in account in the day of Judgment unto their Eternal Ruin and Shame !848
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While I'm happy that many people actually believe all people are worthy of God's Kingdom I can not either fault them for innocence. Working with psychopaths for a minute would fix that. God promises me safety from all that evil and I don't blame God for making his Kingdom safe for me either. I've worked in forensic psychiatry and even the Godless would condemn certain people for eternity.
You are avoiding the fact you are trying to put all fault and blame upon God. If man has no free will then man is not accountable or respsonsible for anything he does....God is. So if I go out and murder 15 people, then comitting that sin is not my free will choice that I am repsonsible for, it is somthing God forced upon me to do and God therefore is responsible and accountable for the sin of murder.
The man with one talent went out and buried that one talent then tried to blame God for his actions, calling God a "hard man", if God was not so hard I would would not have buried that talent. Where did blaming God get him?
The man with one talent went out and buried that one talent then tried to blame God for his actions, calling God a "hard man", if God was not so hard I would would not have buried that talent. Where did blaming God get him?
Deuteronomy 30:19 "I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants,"
Joshua 24:15 "But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD."
Ezekiel 18:32 "For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the LORD. Repent and live!"
Joshua 24:15 "But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD."
Ezekiel 18:32 "For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the LORD. Repent and live!"