How Is A Christian Lady Supposed to Dress?
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Rose; Um now thats cool
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Hey, wait........If Adam and Eve had not sinned, none of us would be here
Thank you Rachel, your comments are well taken. All I am suggesting is that when a woman is qualified for a leadership position, she should be considered on her qualifications alone without any regard for her gender. I believe that on this issue at least the bible is reflecting societal attitudes rather than a divine ordinance. We are no longer living in a tribal society of 2000 years ago.
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Without the "fall?" Hmm, I don't think so. It was only because of their disobedience that they became aware. However, it is a moot point for it is what it is........
Without the "fall?" Hmm, I don't think so. It was only because of their disobedience that they became aware. However, it is a moot point for it is what it is........
But,but.but Didn't God tell Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiple BEFORE they fell?
Genesis 1
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
I realize I am coming late to the discussion, we spent the day at the lake.
First - the OP fails to address the cultural issue which Paul is addressing. This was not about simple jewellry or braids. This women were Greeks and Romans and they had several servants and spent hours getting their hair braided and interwoven with jewellry. It was a frivolous waste of time and money, and the whole point was to show off in front of the other women.
Second, there really is a cultural element to clothing. I have always dressed very modestly, especially for church and because I play in the worship band. So long sleeves, long skirts, and covered up top. Well, that worked very well for Edmonton, with 6 months of winter, and never that hot in the summer.
But since moving to BC, it is HOT! Texas kind of hot! I was shocked to see all the sleeveless dresses, and shorts worn in church. My husband was shocked to see the men dressed in shorts, and wearing thongs and sandals and even commented on it a few months ago. (Interesting that I noticed the women, and he noticed the men!)
So I loosened up a bit, started wearing a sleeveless dress without a sweater. Well, when it is in the high 90's by lunch (35+C) you really need to wear something light. I still won't wear see through or halter tops, but I am not going to chastize someone else for doing it.
As for makeup, I've never been a big wearer of makeup - just sun screen foundation and some mascara to show that I actually have eyelashes, mine are so light. In Canada, we are not big make up wearers. I always remember the mothers on the American hockey teams at tournaments, and being so shocked the amount of makeup they were wearing. But they were all doing it, so I think that was part of their culture. I confess, as a hockey mom I was so busy fundraising and driving to 4 am practices in the US, that make up wasn't a consideration.
I think when Paul was writing a pastoral letter, he was addressing specific situations in that church. In the case of 1 & 2 Timothy, he was addressing Ephesus, a city with a lot of issues. We need to be culturally aware, not dress in a sexualized manner, which is the essence of modesty. But how that plays out depends upon where we live, and maybe even the time we live in.
First - the OP fails to address the cultural issue which Paul is addressing. This was not about simple jewellry or braids. This women were Greeks and Romans and they had several servants and spent hours getting their hair braided and interwoven with jewellry. It was a frivolous waste of time and money, and the whole point was to show off in front of the other women.
Second, there really is a cultural element to clothing. I have always dressed very modestly, especially for church and because I play in the worship band. So long sleeves, long skirts, and covered up top. Well, that worked very well for Edmonton, with 6 months of winter, and never that hot in the summer.
But since moving to BC, it is HOT! Texas kind of hot! I was shocked to see all the sleeveless dresses, and shorts worn in church. My husband was shocked to see the men dressed in shorts, and wearing thongs and sandals and even commented on it a few months ago. (Interesting that I noticed the women, and he noticed the men!)
So I loosened up a bit, started wearing a sleeveless dress without a sweater. Well, when it is in the high 90's by lunch (35+C) you really need to wear something light. I still won't wear see through or halter tops, but I am not going to chastize someone else for doing it.
As for makeup, I've never been a big wearer of makeup - just sun screen foundation and some mascara to show that I actually have eyelashes, mine are so light. In Canada, we are not big make up wearers. I always remember the mothers on the American hockey teams at tournaments, and being so shocked the amount of makeup they were wearing. But they were all doing it, so I think that was part of their culture. I confess, as a hockey mom I was so busy fundraising and driving to 4 am practices in the US, that make up wasn't a consideration.
I think when Paul was writing a pastoral letter, he was addressing specific situations in that church. In the case of 1 & 2 Timothy, he was addressing Ephesus, a city with a lot of issues. We need to be culturally aware, not dress in a sexualized manner, which is the essence of modesty. But how that plays out depends upon where we live, and maybe even the time we live in.
Chapter 2:
22 .) And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 .) And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 .) Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 .) And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Chapter 3:
6 .) And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 .) And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
And all the stuff that followed.........still, good point. But I'm fairly sure they had not "known" each other prior to their being thrown out of the Garden..........can't say specifically, but pretty sure.
But that does give some thought to what the world would have/could have been
22 .) And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 .) And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 .) Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 .) And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Chapter 3:
6 .) And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 .) And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
And all the stuff that followed.........still, good point. But I'm fairly sure they had not "known" each other prior to their being thrown out of the Garden..........can't say specifically, but pretty sure.
But that does give some thought to what the world would have/could have been
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Yes Mam please excuse me for my rambling spirit got cared away, human trafficking is a whole other topic for sure .. i mentioned a Woman looking bling bling.. though I quoted womenrights.org front page writings.
human rights suppression may it be a ant size or mountain size I can get work up lol.. Seems gotten out of hand anymore when there's so much else that's bad in this world. I didn't even mention clothing on the topic arrg..
The topic, If a homeless woman or man with torn and battered clothing hasn't showered in some time with food bags for shoes on the feet
walks into a church is this person rightly dressed or wrongly dressed.?
human rights suppression may it be a ant size or mountain size I can get work up lol.. Seems gotten out of hand anymore when there's so much else that's bad in this world. I didn't even mention clothing on the topic arrg..
The topic, If a homeless woman or man with torn and battered clothing hasn't showered in some time with food bags for shoes on the feet
walks into a church is this person rightly dressed or wrongly dressed.?
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I'll answer to this question only.
I'll do it shortly because I didn't take the time
to read all the message below the question.
The question is : How is a Christian Lady supposed to dress?
I'll answer by simply relaxed.
Like Jeans, T-Shirt, Shoes relaxing, etc...
Normal and Simple clothes...
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I'll do it shortly because I didn't take the time
to read all the message below the question.
The question is : How is a Christian Lady supposed to dress?
I'll answer by simply relaxed.
Like Jeans, T-Shirt, Shoes relaxing, etc...
Normal and Simple clothes...
[h=2][/h]
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When Jacob was dying in Egypt, he had all his sons come for their blessing and to get them to make him a promise. The promise was to take his body with them when the family left Egypt and to bury him with his father and grandfather. (Isaac and Abraham) in the family tomb. He made Joseph promise him by putting his hand under Jacob's thigh.
Well, many of mt Dead Guys (commentators) believe the word their isn't quite so much "thing" as it is "inside the thigh." To put it politely, Jacob had Joseph promise by cupping the very organ that gave him life -- connected to the groin.
So, if you're going to compare this to women's "thighs" and men's "thighs," I'm pretty sure the vast majority of us keep the groin covered in public. That changes the whole topic of "thigh" altogether, doesn't it?
Well, many of mt Dead Guys (commentators) believe the word their isn't quite so much "thing" as it is "inside the thigh." To put it politely, Jacob had Joseph promise by cupping the very organ that gave him life -- connected to the groin.
So, if you're going to compare this to women's "thighs" and men's "thighs," I'm pretty sure the vast majority of us keep the groin covered in public. That changes the whole topic of "thigh" altogether, doesn't it?