How many sins were forgiven by Son on that cross to his Father
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“But no one actually confesses all their sins, because they aren't aware of all their sins.”
yes brother that’s my entire point sin is when you knowingly do or realize you have done something sinful ….
for instance brother if you had two identical twin sons five years of age
You give them crayons and place paper on a table . But you don’t tell them “ thou shalt not color on the walls “ if they color on the walls and you didn’t inform them itnis t thier sin against you , it is ignorance on thier part . Not in an insulting way but in the meaning “ they weren’t aware of the rule dont wrote on the wall when they did it so it’s not just to punish them or account a wrong deed to them you never told them
now there’s a crayon drawing on the wall now the same as if they had known the rule but you can’t point to it as thier fault against you either you have the. Crayons and they saw a big white wall
But if you give then crayons and then tell them do not write on my walls take all this paper and draw on the paper . If then they wrote on your wall it is because tbey knew the rule and rebelled against it so now there’s justification in crediting a fault to them
sin is if I know the right thing to do and don’t do it , or if I know the wrong thing to do and do it then it’s sin
That’s my point entirely it’s not sin if we dont know it’s sin. So then refusing to confess the sin becomes something tangible and like your saying anyone really with a decent heart who does wrong to another they are going to find repentance beginning in thier heart
i over complicate things sin but a when you do know , if we aren’t aware it’s not something we can confess or need to confess because it’s not sin sin is when we violate something we know
yes brother that’s my entire point sin is when you knowingly do or realize you have done something sinful ….
for instance brother if you had two identical twin sons five years of age
You give them crayons and place paper on a table . But you don’t tell them “ thou shalt not color on the walls “ if they color on the walls and you didn’t inform them itnis t thier sin against you , it is ignorance on thier part . Not in an insulting way but in the meaning “ they weren’t aware of the rule dont wrote on the wall when they did it so it’s not just to punish them or account a wrong deed to them you never told them
now there’s a crayon drawing on the wall now the same as if they had known the rule but you can’t point to it as thier fault against you either you have the. Crayons and they saw a big white wall
But if you give then crayons and then tell them do not write on my walls take all this paper and draw on the paper . If then they wrote on your wall it is because tbey knew the rule and rebelled against it so now there’s justification in crediting a fault to them
sin is if I know the right thing to do and don’t do it , or if I know the wrong thing to do and do it then it’s sin
That’s my point entirely it’s not sin if we dont know it’s sin. So then refusing to confess the sin becomes something tangible and like your saying anyone really with a decent heart who does wrong to another they are going to find repentance beginning in thier heart
i over complicate things sin but a when you do know , if we aren’t aware it’s not something we can confess or need to confess because it’s not sin sin is when we violate something we know
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amen look how it fits with what’s being said if we don’t break it up
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”
1 John 1:9- 2:4 KJV
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”
1 John 1:9- 2:4 KJV
I'm not under the wrath of God...Romans 8:1.
Jesus was merely pointing out truth. Those to whom He was speaking were asking about others who were killed by a fallen tower. It was the Jewish belief that when someone died or was suffering from some sort of malady, it was because of their sin or the sin of someone connected to them. He was letting them know they also had sinned and were subject to judgment.
Jesus was merely pointing out truth. Those to whom He was speaking were asking about others who were killed by a fallen tower. It was the Jewish belief that when someone died or was suffering from some sort of malady, it was because of their sin or the sin of someone connected to them. He was letting them know they also had sinned and were subject to judgment.