How mysticism is undermining Bible Christianity today
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We have direct access by one Spirt who speaks His words of understanding through the God's tongue. The Gospel. The new tongue believers speak . Our prayers have nothing to with unknown languages, noises , that has to do with those who proudly fall backward in judgment. A sign against those who believe not the word of God's tongue prohecy
Speaking in a unknow tongue and falling backward as evidence of a unknown is about secret knowledge that falsely gives personal advantage and often leads to power and riches in this world, but in the end one does not arrive at the truth . But does arrive and the foundation of the doctrine in Isaiah 28 . The unknow mystical tongue makes it to no effect.
Appearances by the fallen angel in the wilderness in history (Mathew 4) does not lead to any Godly truth. it led the Son of man to repeat three time as it is written . Trying the widen the authority of God word with unknown should be a waring to you A Waggles . yet forall that you still make unknown noises and fall backward for some secret private reason.???
The difference is Christian walk by faith as it is written. While some who follow another Christ mediator walking by unknowns or wonders called mysticism (no faith needed for hearing God) Called will worship in Colossian 2.. But rather they must seek after wonderment and be amazed. The gospel of excitement. The side show.
Hymns of worship that are sung in their heart... go like this...called; "We Love to tell the unknown Wonders" Beah htevvy tiiaetuol oopawfreb , tier nottttesss nien Hmmmmmm. ompa lumpa umpdodee (pause) fall back make sure some one is there to catch or #$@&%*!? . Take 2.
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The question is,are charismatics mystics,not,what is a mystic.
Mystics and "walking in the spirit,on fire saints " are both spirit led.
One by demons,the other by God.
Because i read the bible and pray,and a satanist reads the bible and prays does not make me a satanist,or he a christian.
Mystics and "walking in the spirit,on fire saints " are both spirit led.
One by demons,the other by God.
Because i read the bible and pray,and a satanist reads the bible and prays does not make me a satanist,or he a christian.
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Charismatics have been misunderstood and mislabled.
They are stereotyped into oblivion.
Jesus said"my sheep hear my voice"
We know him and his voice.
Jesus said,"if a son asks for bread,the father WILL NOT put a snake or scorpion in his hand"
IOW, Not only is God not evil,but he PROMISES satan can not touch a babe asking his Father for the Holy Spirit.
Neither can satan invade and possess a person praying for salvation.
Satan can not cross certain lines. Especially the blood.
The word says " the letter killeth,but the spirit giveth life"
Cessationists say "that spirit stuff is dangerous"
Full gospel believers know the opposite is true.
Enjoying the feast at the Fathers table and his presence,and his voice,confirmation,and his warm smile and approval.
A tangable ,alive,living fellowship in the spirit
Walking and conversing with him.
That is done in the spirit.
The cross and the blood are foundations, not vehicles for anointing.
Anointing comes to the hungry. Not the satisfied.
God is a God of Purpose. The anointing is for purpose. Always has been.
The anointing is Spirit centered.
The anointing is Holy Spirit centered.
A demon spirit has a smell.
A full gospel Holy Ghost filled believer knows the smell of the false.
If you walk in a house and they are cooking fish,you wont expect them to serve lamb. You know what is cooking.
Demon spirits are like that.
Jesus can not be decieved. The word and the Spirit.
Jesus is the word,the Holy Spirit is the Spirit.
All the paranoia over the Spirit is opposite of God's plan.
Ironically,safety is found in the Spirit emphacised.
The believer seeks the Holy Spirit,and the Holy Spirit points men to Jesus.
Salvation is always Holy Spirit dominated,for it is he that convicts,illuminates,plows the heart in preparation for Jesus inhabitation.
That is why,in a crowd listening to an evangelist,only a few or none gets saved. Only those that were PREVIOUSLY convicted and arrested by the Holy Spirit respond.
The only exception are those instantly "smitten" on the spot.
Only through the baptism in the Holy Spirit,can the real picture emerge.
The believer becomes spiritual.
Walks in the fruit of the Holy Spirit,but also in the Power.
Nothing at all to be afraid or paranoid of.
They are stereotyped into oblivion.
Jesus said"my sheep hear my voice"
We know him and his voice.
Jesus said,"if a son asks for bread,the father WILL NOT put a snake or scorpion in his hand"
IOW, Not only is God not evil,but he PROMISES satan can not touch a babe asking his Father for the Holy Spirit.
Neither can satan invade and possess a person praying for salvation.
Satan can not cross certain lines. Especially the blood.
The word says " the letter killeth,but the spirit giveth life"
Cessationists say "that spirit stuff is dangerous"
Full gospel believers know the opposite is true.
Enjoying the feast at the Fathers table and his presence,and his voice,confirmation,and his warm smile and approval.
A tangable ,alive,living fellowship in the spirit
Walking and conversing with him.
That is done in the spirit.
The cross and the blood are foundations, not vehicles for anointing.
Anointing comes to the hungry. Not the satisfied.
God is a God of Purpose. The anointing is for purpose. Always has been.
The anointing is Spirit centered.
The anointing is Holy Spirit centered.
A demon spirit has a smell.
A full gospel Holy Ghost filled believer knows the smell of the false.
If you walk in a house and they are cooking fish,you wont expect them to serve lamb. You know what is cooking.
Demon spirits are like that.
Jesus can not be decieved. The word and the Spirit.
Jesus is the word,the Holy Spirit is the Spirit.
All the paranoia over the Spirit is opposite of God's plan.
Ironically,safety is found in the Spirit emphacised.
The believer seeks the Holy Spirit,and the Holy Spirit points men to Jesus.
Salvation is always Holy Spirit dominated,for it is he that convicts,illuminates,plows the heart in preparation for Jesus inhabitation.
That is why,in a crowd listening to an evangelist,only a few or none gets saved. Only those that were PREVIOUSLY convicted and arrested by the Holy Spirit respond.
The only exception are those instantly "smitten" on the spot.
Only through the baptism in the Holy Spirit,can the real picture emerge.
The believer becomes spiritual.
Walks in the fruit of the Holy Spirit,but also in the Power.
Nothing at all to be afraid or paranoid of.
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What does it make those who God mocks with stammering lips?
That's confusing. Men rejoice in the unknown and call it faith that sets men on fire casuing them to fall backward?
What's that a sign to the fiery judgment of God ? falling backward un der the fiery judgement is used several time to indicate a person is undered the judgment of God.( No grace) Yet for all that they still fall backward to confirm something? What does falling backward slain in the spirit represent .Belief (faith) or unbelief (no faith) and therefore not understanding.... simply mystical... a wonderment that sets a emotions of fire.
Isaiah 28:11-13 King James Version (KJV) For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and "fall backward", and be broken, and snared, and taken.
That's confusing. Men rejoice in the unknown and call it faith that sets men on fire casuing them to fall backward?
What's that a sign to the fiery judgment of God ? falling backward un der the fiery judgement is used several time to indicate a person is undered the judgment of God.( No grace) Yet for all that they still fall backward to confirm something? What does falling backward slain in the spirit represent .Belief (faith) or unbelief (no faith) and therefore not understanding.... simply mystical... a wonderment that sets a emotions of fire.
Isaiah 28:11-13 King James Version (KJV) For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and "fall backward", and be broken, and snared, and taken.
I quibble over definitions. I think they are important in a discussion.
When you attempt to belittle something that you don't really understand you lump a lot of people into a group and create animosity (potentially).
I wanted to find out what people are actually against when they speak out against mysticism.
So far I think it is just people that don't call on the Lord Jesus Christ. In all other respects Christians appear to be just like mystics. As far as what I've seen defined as mysticism.
When you attempt to belittle something that you don't really understand you lump a lot of people into a group and create animosity (potentially).
I wanted to find out what people are actually against when they speak out against mysticism.
So far I think it is just people that don't call on the Lord Jesus Christ. In all other respects Christians appear to be just like mystics. As far as what I've seen defined as mysticism.
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You might let @Nehemiah6 know, don't you think?
Christians come through faith in His Word.
Unbelievers must come via faith in the message of the cross (aka the Gospel).
But the point is there is no direct connect between man and God as mystics try to portray.
We have a living relationship with the living God on account of the Way God has provided, no other way.
Unbelievers must come via faith in the message of the cross (aka the Gospel).
But the point is there is no direct connect between man and God as mystics try to portray.
We have a living relationship with the living God on account of the Way God has provided, no other way.
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