How often should I sacrifice a beast to appease God?

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EleventhHour

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If a mother sacrifices herself in WW2 letting herself be captured so the kids can escape the Nazis, is her sacrifice also human sacrifice? You're being really asinine about this.
Rarely does involving oneself with a troll become a productive endeavor... I should know better ....sigh.
 
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John 16:29 His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb.
:) Mic drop!
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Amen Yes, Context is needed.

We must be careful how we hear or say we hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches us we must put on the armor of faith . It protects us. We defend it, as it is written. And not that of our own selves as if we were the source of Christian faith, and not Christ working in us giving us rest lighting the burden ..

Living parables are made known visually through the apostle, prophet Jesus the propmised one. Some did know Christ after the flesh. after the demonstration and he disappeared that was no longer possible .It was nesecassry he leave and never return in the flesh or the Holy Spirit would be limited .

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

We no longer know him that way forever more .One demonstration was promise. Some would crucify him over and over to public shame to show they have no faith coming from God. (Hebrews 6)

God speaking to mankind through the corrupted flesh of Jesus . Of that flesh Jesus declared; "it profits for nothing" . It reveal's that which did profit . Its the unseen Spirit of faith that does quicken our new soul. . His words are Spirit and spirit life giving. .

Jesus is the word of God personified in the Son on of man . Jesus did not do the will of the flesh .yet he remined without sin. Every movement of Jesus was a reflection given as a parable of the father working in Him . When he again mended their confusion. then they understood we do not need to go to any man .And we should abide in the warning of the antichrists (1 John2:27-28 ) in so much of those who say we do need a man to teach us .One is our teacher who dwells in the believers. In that way we are the temple of God.

Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God. John 16:30

Jesus questioned their belief knowing what manner of spirit man is of .and again to teach how to walk by faith of the unseen father.

Jesus answered them, Do ye now believe? Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me. These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world John 16:31-32
 

Dino246

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#83
And? Still a human sacrifice. Unless Jesus didn't give his life to serve some spiritual purpose?
Respectfully, you just aren't getting it.

Why does calling it a "human sacrifice" appeal to you? Aside from the fact that it is simply the wrong concept completely, you seem to be arguing without any clear purpose.
 
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#84
No,
If a mother sacrifices herself in WW2 letting herself be captured so the kids can escape the Nazis, is her sacrifice also human sacrifice? You're being really asinine about this.
No, as it is not consciously intended to serve a religious purpose. Jesus knew he would be killed, and gave his life for the sake of humanity.
 

Dino246

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#88
You're the one who doesn't appear to understand what 'human sacrifice'
See my post, #76, and leave off your stubborn resistance to simple truth. You aren't showing any inclination to learn, but only to resist. That's the mark of a troll, and if you continue, you will be ignored or removed from this site.
 
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#89
Actually, He wasn't. The Romans who killed Him were not doing so as an offering to a god. They were executing a (perceived) criminal. The Jews who handed Him over to be killed considered Him worthy of death for claiming that He is God.

Neither understood God's plan in the process.
Are you suggesting Jesus did not intend to be arrested and executed?
 

SoulWeaver

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Are you suggesting Jesus did not intend to be arrested and executed?
Are you suggesting Jesus didn't intend to get raised from the dead in 3 days? Are you trying to argue immorality of God here because you believe this was "human sacrifice"? What is your purpose? You forget Jesus was only dead very shortly and then raised. On the other thread, you seem to argue that Jesus should have suffered more or longer according to you, here you seem to argue it was wrong. So which is it, you have spoken on both sides of your mouth.
 
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Are you suggesting Jesus didn't intend to get raised from the dead in 3 days? Are you trying to argue immorality of God here because you believe this was "human sacrifice"? What is your purpose? You forget Jesus was only dead very shortly and then raised. On the other thread, you seem to argue that Jesus should have suffered more or longer according to you, here you seem to argue it was wrong. So which is it, you have spoken on both sides of your mouth.
My purpose is to learn more about Christianity.
 
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#93
You acknowledge he was a sacrifice and you acknowledge he was human.
yes a living sacrifice for sufered unto death .Not dying never to rise. .


Remember salvation is the work of two. As the father poured out the wrath of God on the Son as a propmised demonstration . The Son in perfect submissions to the father cried out for aid and power was given to the Son . It was a three day work of the two. On the last day a dawn he said to his Son rise. In the same way he said to Lazarus, rise. . . asleep for 4 days

It coincides with the parallel parable with Jonas. Three days by reason in living suffering They both cried out heard on high and was strengthened to finish the work of the father . God working in the hearts of men to both will and perform His good pleasure .

Jonah murmured and wanted to die. . Jesus gladly did the will of the father wanting to live..

Philippians 2:13-15 King James Version (KJV)For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings: That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
 

SoulWeaver

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My purpose is to learn more about Christianity.
You conveniently did not answer my question I asked more than one. Please go back and try to answer if you can. And if you're also going about learning in this way in school, I'm surprised if you didn't drop out in second grade.
 
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#96
You conveniently did not answer my question I asked more than one. Please go back and try to answer if you can. And if you're also going about learning in this way in school, I'm surprised if you didn't drop out in second grade.
My answers to the first two questions are 'no' and 'no'.
 
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#97
LOL

Amen Yes, Context is needed.

We must be careful how we hear or say we hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches us we must put on the armor of faith . It protects us. We defend it, as it is written. And not that of our own selves as if we were the source of Christian faith, and not Christ working in us giving us rest lighting the burden ..

Living parables are made known visually through the apostle, prophet Jesus the propmised one. Some did know Christ after the flesh. after the demonstration and he disappeared that was no longer possible .It was nesecassry he leave and never return in the flesh or the Holy Spirit would be limited .

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

We no longer know him that way forever more .One demonstration was promise. Some would crucify him over and over to public shame to show they have no faith coming from God. (Hebrews 6)

God speaking to mankind through the corrupted flesh of Jesus . Of that flesh Jesus declared; "it profits for nothing" . It reveal's that which did profit . Its the unseen Spirit of faith that does quicken our new soul. . His words are Spirit and spirit life giving. .

Jesus is the word of God personified in the Son on of man . Jesus did not do the will of the flesh .yet he remined without sin. Every movement of Jesus was a reflection given as a parable of the father working in Him . When he again mended their confusion. then they understood we do not need to go to any man .And we should abide in the warning of the antichrists (1 John2:27-28 ) in so much of those who say we do need a man to teach us .One is our teacher who dwells in the believers. In that way we are the temple of God.

Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God. John 16:30

Jesus questioned their belief knowing what manner of spirit man is of .and again to teach how to walk by faith of the unseen father.

Jesus answered them, Do ye now believe? Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me. These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world John 16:31-32
 

SoulWeaver

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My answers to the first two questions are 'no' and 'no'.
What is then your reason for keeping insisting and arguing that Jesus was a human sacrifice? Because obviously none of us believes it, and I don't believe you will find any Christian who believes it, so there you learned that about Christianity, we don't believe that. God hates human sacrifice especially sacrificing children that other nations around Israel did and sometimes Hebrews went idolatrous too throughout the Old testament following their example. It's very explicitly expressed through the prophets.