How Old Is The Earth?

[Bowman]

Little wonder non-believers scoff at Christianity when there are YEC’s that believe that carnivorous dinosaurs walked the earth alongside modern humans!

The Holy Bible records literally thousands of battles to the death – but these are between humans, only….no battles to the death with dinosaurs….come on!

 

[Kerry]

Bow Just to let you know I believe in the gap. It makes since and science is trying to mix the before with the now and have come up with evolution.

 

[Kerry]

Anyway yall keep duking it out for some reason, but can we agree that if not for the cross there is no hope? good night

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Little wonder non-believers scoff at Christianity when there are YEC’s that believe that carnivorous dinosaurs walked the earth alongside modern humans!

The Holy Bible records literally thousands of battles to the death – but these are between humans, only….no battles to the death with dinosaurs….come on!

Ah the dinosaur gap.

However lol is there really a gap?

What's dinosaur mean? It's a term that arose in the 1800s I think and it means Terrible Lizard. Are most fossils Terrible Lizards? No, many of them are the same Kind of animals we find today, just biggers or with genetic variation to their Basic Form. In fact most of the true Dinosaur, or Terrible Lizard fossils are extremely incomplete and many of the full body skeletons and artist imaginations you are shown are mere guesses sometimes based off of as little as a handful of bones that might not even be dinosaur bones lol.

Why does history and mythologies worldwide speak of dragons, giant reptile creatures, etc. that they have many encounters with from a range of the stereotypical heroic knight killing the dragon to some wierd beast causing havoc in your land? If dragons/dinosaurs/giant reptile-like creatures existed in human history why do they not exist anymore? Why doesn't stuff like the Moa, Dodo, and now the black rhino go extinct? Mankind wipes them the heck off the face of the planet.

 

[MESEAEAGLE]

All Christians are YEC or not bible beleavers. And according to the bible meat eating did not occur till after the flood. The Komodo dragon shows the mix of the names as it also is a Terrible Lizard

 

[GodIsSalvation]

All Christians are YEC or not bible beleavers. And according to the bible meat eating did not occur till after the flood. The Komodo dragon shows the mix of the names as it also is a Terrible Lizard

Heh I liked this comment, though YEC could be arguable, all religions and human histories revolve around a younger earth than a billions or millions old earth. Plus biblically like I said in a way earlier comment the Bible does leave room for a potential older earth than maybe is older than the mainstream YEC perspective (typically 5000-6000 gregorian calendar years) due to however long Adam and Eve were immortal.


Lol I really liked your comment on the komodo dragon, our literally named alive dragon of today. Made me think about the crocidilians/alligators and how many evolutionst old earth atheists or old earth creationists of many flvaor call them living dinosaurs. Hey maybe the evolutionists weren't too wrong about the crocdilians being "living dinosaurs." Only thing is for them to still be alive the dinosaur age much less the earth can't really be that old as they theorize, and when their kind was prevalent upon earth seems like some big catastrophe cleansed them and rearranged whatever unimaginable stuff happened in that era.... yet still some survived.

 

[garet82]

lol i just know we can know how old is the earth by komodo ???

 

[GodIsSalvation]

lol i just know we can know how old is the earth by komodo ???

Lol well hold on there because determining the age of the earth depends on several factors from however one keeps track of time, to the whole fact there was a worldwide catastrophe regardless of old earth or new earth models, thus screwing up and distorting all evidence from the Komodo Islands to Kentucky, and then of course at least a few thousands years of solid human history that proves that humans have rearranged this planet themselves since their ancient forefathers say the Race of Man survived the Flood and the age preceding it all the way to this very second. So I don't think we'll ever have an exact date stamp on the age of the earth. I just think its obvious we ain't been here so long for billions of years as some contend, though there certainly is room even in the literalmsot sense in the Bible for the possibility we been here longer than 5000-6000 years by how we reckon years.

 

[Bookends]

Genesis 2:4 (KJV and ESV)

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Are not generations typically more then 6-24 hour days? I know other versions render this word as account or history, but everywhere else in the OT this word (H8435-Towledah) it seems to have element of birth/growth followed extended period of time.

 

[JoshJoseph2]

I have no idea how old the earth is.

 

[Bowman]

Ah the dinosaur gap.

However lol is there really a gap?

What's dinosaur mean? It's a term that arose in the 1800s I think and it means Terrible Lizard. Are most fossils Terrible Lizards? No, many of them are the same Kind of animals we find today, just biggers or with genetic variation to their Basic Form. In fact most of the true Dinosaur, or Terrible Lizard fossils are extremely incomplete and many of the full body skeletons and artist imaginations you are shown are mere guesses sometimes based off of as little as a handful of bones that might not even be dinosaur bones lol.

Why does history and mythologies worldwide speak of dragons, giant reptile creatures, etc. that they have many encounters with from a range of the stereotypical heroic knight killing the dragon to some wierd beast causing havoc in your land? If dragons/dinosaurs/giant reptile-like creatures existed in human history why do they not exist anymore? Why doesn't stuff like the Moa, Dodo, and now the black rhino go extinct? Mankind wipes them the heck off the face of the planet.

Show me all the Bible verses which have humans fighting to the death with T-rex's...

 

[jimmydiggs]

Show me all the Bible verses which have humans fighting to the death with T-rex's...

Show me all the bible verses which have humans fighting to the death with elephants, tigers, lemurs, tasmanian devils, raccoons, Elk, Buffalo, and tucans...

 

[Fishbait]

The speed of light in a vacuum is always constant...and that is what outer space is, a vacuum.

Just embrace the fact that the Universe is billions of years old...there is nothing to be afraid of.

I am only "aftraid" of the damage people like you create when you "embrace the fact that the universe is billions of years old". If the idea of millions of years of earth and cosmic history is really true, as many teach, then:

1. It destroys the Bible’s teaching on death.

2. It assaults the character of God.

3. It contradicts what Jesus believed and taught about the age of the earth, thereby undermining faith in Him for salvation. If Jesus was wrong about the age of the earth, what
other errors did He make in His teaching?

4. It undermines faith in the gospel by undermining faith in the Bible that contains the gospel.

5. It nullifies the authority of Scripture.

6. It therefore weakens the Church and its gospel witness in the world.

You see, if death, disease, suffering, natural disasters (like hurricane Katrina and the tsunami in southeast Asia in December 2004), and extinctions have been going on for millions of years, as evolutionists teach, then God’s Word is fundamentally in error from beginning to end.


Let me be clear: no one is saved by believing in a young earth, and no one will be sent to hell for believing in millions of years. Our eternal destiny is determined solely on the basis of whether or not we have put our faith in Jesus Christ as our personal Savior and Lord or not. But those Christians who accept the millions of years are being inconsistent in accepting what the New Testament says about the gospel while at the same time rejecting all or some of what the New Testament and Old Testament together say about the age of the earth, the order of creation events, and the consequences of the Fall of Adam.

Their inconsistency causes many people in our culture and around the world (because evolution and millions of years are taught as fact everywhere) to not trust the Bible and therefore not to believe the gospel. Others may not state it as clearly as some do, but they essentially think the same. If the beginning chapters of the Bible look like history but really are symbolic or mythological, then why should anyone believe the gospels about Jesus, which look like history but are filled with all kinds of miracles that modern science (supposedly) has shown are impossible.

 

[Bowman]

Show me all the bible verses which have humans fighting to the death with elephants, tigers, lemurs, tasmanian devils, raccoons, Elk, Buffalo, and tucans...

Gen 1.26 informs the reader that when man was finally created, he was commanded to RULE over all the creatures of the earth.

Thus...God would NOT have given this command if T-rex's, etc were still in existence because they obviously would have ruled OVER man.

Simple, Biblical truth...

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Show me all the bible verses which have humans fighting to the death with elephants, tigers, lemurs, tasmanian devils, raccoons, Elk, Buffalo, and tucans...

lets not forget the most powerful creature God ever created, The dreaded "cough" hippo "cough" I mean behemoth!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Gen 1.26 informs the reader that when man was finally created, he was commanded to RULE over all the creatures of the earth.

Thus...God would NOT have given this command if T-rex's, etc were still in existence because they obviously would have ruled OVER man.

Simple, Biblical truth...

lol.. You mean the same God who states that the lion and sheep will sleep together, and the baby will lie next to the lion with no fear. when God restores things to the way they were?

You have so little belief in the power of God I wonder why you claim you even believe in him..

 

[Bowman]

I am only "aftraid" of the damage people like you create when you "embrace the fact that the universe is billions of years old". If the idea of millions of years of earth and cosmic history is really true, as many teach, then:

That's the kind of ignorance which keeps non-believers from seeking-out Christianity.

1. It destroys the Bible’s teaching on death.

No.

Death existed BEFORE sin entered into humanity.

2. It assaults the character of God.

No.

3. It contradicts what Jesus believed and taught about the age of the earth, thereby undermining faith in Him for salvation. If Jesus was wrong about the age of the earth, what

other errors did He make in His teaching?

Its only a contradiction to YEC's.

4. It undermines faith in the gospel by undermining faith in the Bible that contains the gospel.

No.

5. It nullifies the authority of Scripture.

No.

6. It therefore weakens the Church and its gospel witness in the world.

No.

You see, if death, disease, suffering, natural disasters (like hurricane Katrina and the tsunami in southeast Asia in December 2004), and extinctions have been going on for millions

of years, as evolutionists teach, then God’s Word is fundamentally in error from beginning to end.

Not according to scripture.

Let me be clear: no one is saved by believing in a young earth, and no one will be sent to hell for believing in millions of years. Our eternal destiny is determined solely on the basis of whether or not we have put our faith in Jesus Christ as our personal Savior and Lord or not. But those Christians who accept the millions of years are being inconsistent in accepting what the New Testament says about the gospel while at the same time rejecting all or some of what the New Testament and Old Testament together say about the age of the earth, the order of creation events, and the consequences of the Fall of Adam.

Their inconsistency causes many people in our culture and around the world (because evolution and millions of years are taught as fact everywhere) to not trust the Bible and therefore not to believe the gospel. Others may not state it as clearly as some do, but they essentially think the same. If the beginning chapters of the Bible look like history but really are symbolic or mythological, then why should anyone believe the gospels about Jesus, which look like history but are filled with all kinds of miracles that modern science (supposedly) has shown are impossible.

Not at all....but feel free to defend your position with scriptural exegesis...

 

[jimmydiggs]

Gen 1.26 informs the reader that when man was finally created, he was commanded to RULE over all the creatures of the earth.

Thus...God would NOT have given this command if T-rex's, etc were still in existence because they obviously would have ruled OVER man.

Simple, Biblical truth...

I guess elephants, tigers, lemurs, tasmanian devils, raccoons, elk, buffalo, and tucans went extinct before the bible was written.

 

[oldhermit]

Explain this!

DINOSAUR and HUMAN TRACKS FOUND TOGETHER!

 

[johnluke]

Re: Study up...

Apparently the Babylonian creation account also has this same order of events, and it's much older than the Genesis account. What do the Babylonians say about the creation of light. Why it was created first and the Sun days later. You see, it turns out that the Babylonians believed light existed apart from the Sun. Notice on a heavy overcast day, when the orb of the Sun is not visible through the clouds, there is still daylight. The Babylonians took this to mean that the Sun was not the primary source of light on the Earth. The Genesis account is copying the Babylonian version of things, and why not. In the Fertile Crescent their priests had mastered the celestial dance of the orbs and could even predict eclipses. Genesis tells us that Abraham came from the city of Ur, within the Babylonian empire, and no doubt he brought his version of their creation account with him. There, now we've settled the paradox of days and nights preceding the creation of the Sun. Wasn't that easy?


The Biblical creation accounts are the original.

Neither the Babylonian creation story or the Biblical account are the originals. The originals were handed down through the Patriarchs beginning with Adam to Abraham.

There is no doubt that Adam told the story of the creation to his children and it is from this source that the Babylonians received the creation story.

Moses did not copy the Babylonian story, nor did he copy an old original Adam story. Why would he when he talked with God the creator face to face and received the details face to face from the creator himself?