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Hevosmies

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#61
Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty and committed abomination before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw fit.
(Ezekiel 16:49-50)
what does God say the sin of Sodom was?
it should not be surprising that God doesn't say it was sexual perversion.

  • vanity & pride
  • wealth & ease
  • forgetting the poor & needy
which one of America's two worldly parties promotes vain nationalism, serves the rich and neglects the poor and the stranger in the land?
doesn't His word say wolves are out to deceive and make disciples out of us with feigned words, making merchandise of you & of the gospel?


you can't serve both God and the GOP any more than you can serve both God and the DNC.
ask your pastor how can you call yourself a Christian and vote for a liar?
I thought you were smart!

Goes to show you education cant make someone SMART. First of all the destruction of Sodom was because of ALL THE ABOVE, including the perversion. I like the way you even used the democrat CODE WORDS they use. Let me decipher it and decode it so we can understand properly what these terms really mean:

"neglects the poor" = doesnt pander to the lazy slobs who wont work and are upto NO GOOD, idle slobs.
"stranger in the land" = illegal immigrants who are in the land UPTO NO GOOD yet again.

What part of the hood did you grow up in?
 

Blain

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#62
I agree! This got nothing to do with the Bible.!
Well that isn't entirely true actually politics have been around for a long long time just not as chaotic and bad as now Jesus was questioned about taxes the roman empire had a very fierce political hammer even before Jesus politics has been in the bible
 
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kaylagrl

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#63
Good grief what the actually heck is with that house!? why are we wasting money on giant houses like that when so many are living on warefare and disability checks month to month just scraping by? Obama was a horrible president why does get this stuff and the rest of places are just... I don't get ppl:mad:
Exactly!! Did you see on the news where Michelle Obama said she's "depressed"?! Can you imagine the audacity?! Michelle who said she was never proud of her country until her husband became president. smh. I'm not even from America and I have more pride in this country than Dems do. They hate America and all it stands for and the mean to change it. Those broken down homes will every home in America thanks to socialist/communist progressives. They extol the virtures of communism but it's funny how not a one of them lives in a communist country. BTW to the poster who mentioned science (green new deal) do any of those homes look like what they preach?! smh
 
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kaylagrl

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#64
I agree! This got nothing to do with the Bible.!
Ok folks, remember that mods approve these posts. If they thought it was in the wrong place they'd move it wouldn't they? It still can be moved.
 
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Ronja

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#65
I challenge you to move to China for several years and then come back and tell us there is no Christian nation. America was founded on Christian values. Yes, her light is going dim, but she still holds to those Judeo/Christian values for the most part.





No, the left always supports abortion. Always. It's part of their agenda. And now they are talking infanticide, which the Gov. of Virginia let slip. No one has heard from him since.







No one of either side sends Americans to kill foreigners overseas. War is war. No one has the intent to kill innocents. Neither party supports that ideal.





So abortion, not an issue for you. Defunding police, getting rid of ICE, open borders and free healthcare for illegal immigrants, not an issue. Socialist/ Communism not an issue. The fact that they support everything against Christian beliefs, not an issue. If the left believed in science they wouldn't support abortion, transgender/homosexuality among other things. This world is temporary. America use to be a shining light on a hill. But progressives will drag this country down into the darkest depths it has ever seen. I don't see how Christians can't see that. It's stunning. Science is the very least of this countries problems. smh Stunning.
A shining light on a hill that would want to punish a man/woman for loving a person with the same gender, a shining light where people who have fought through war and death comes to have their children stolen or to be sent away. A shining light on a hill where people cannot afford medicine or health care, and where only the wealthy people can afford an education.
Very inspirational indeed.
Is giving people in need a place to stay and giving the poor healthcare against the will of God??
 
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kaylagrl

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#66
I thought you were smart!

Goes to show you education cant make someone SMART. First of all the destruction of Sodom was because of ALL THE ABOVE, including the perversion. I like the way you even used the democrat CODE WORDS they use. Let me decipher it and decode it so we can understand properly what these terms really mean:

"neglects the poor" = doesnt pander to the lazy slobs who wont work and are upto NO GOOD, idle slobs.
"stranger in the land" = illegal immigrants who are in the land UPTO NO GOOD yet again.

What part of the hood did you grow up in?
There is help out there for people who need it. People who need a hand up, not a handout. That is where the parties differ. Dems want to keep people on gov. help from cradle to grave. Easier to control them. As Biden said in a manner of speaking "Of course you'll vote Dem if you're black, look at all this pretty free stuff! You're a victim, you can't succeed without US!!" And then they're hell bent on adding illegal immigrants to the picture. Now we'll have millions of broke voters who keep us in power because they need the free stuff. Dems don't care about the poor, they care about their vote. Before we were slammed with Wuhan virus Trump got how many off of food stamps and employed that Obama had put on there?! Lowest unemployment records for all minorities and women. That's how Reps. want to help the poor, not keep them on the dole and victims for the rest of their lives.
 

posthuman

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#67
I thought you were smart!
thanks :)

but remember it's God who creates the brain and gives understanding. if i've ever said anything intelligent it's not my glory but His who makes me and cares for me.


bro, this is the Bible discussion forum. i am trying to continue using scriptural language and concepts, and i think everyone here ought to stop thinking in terms of worldly partisanship and instead look at these things in the way God does. there should not be any place for carnal politics in us -- not just because this muck is now spilling once again into the BDF like it's some hallowed section or something, but because we wear the name 'Christian'

If there is among you a poor man of your brethren, within any of the gates in your land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart nor shut your hand from your poor brother, but you shall open your hand wide to him and willingly lend him sufficient for his need, whatever he needs.
(Deuteronomy 15:7-8)
The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
(Leviticus 19:34)
 
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Ronja

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#68
thanks :)

but remember it's God who creates the brain and gives understanding. if i've ever said anything intelligent it's not my glory but His who makes me and cares for me.




bro, this is the Bible discussion forum. i am trying to continue using scriptural language and concepts, and i think everyone here ought to stop thinking in terms of worldly partisanship and instead look at these things in the way God does. there should not be any place for carnal politics in us -- not just because this muck is now spilling once again into the BDF like it's some hallowed section or something, but because we wear the name 'Christian'

If there is among you a poor man of your brethren, within any of the gates in your land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart nor shut your hand from your poor brother, but you shall open your hand wide to him and willingly lend him sufficient for his need, whatever he needs.
(Deuteronomy 15:7-8)
The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
(Leviticus 19:34)
What I have tried to say, but said with more grace and dignity ;)
 

Blain

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#69
Exactly!! Did you see on the news where Michelle Obama said she's "depressed"?! Can you imagine the audacity?! Michelle who said she was never proud of her country until her husband became president. smh. I'm not even from America and I have more pride in this country than Dems do. They hate America and all it stands for and the mean to change it. Those broken down homes will every home in America thanks to socialist/communist progressives. They extol the virtures of communism but it's funny how not a one of them lives in a communist country. BTW to the poster who mentioned science (green new deal) do any of those homes look like what they preach?! smh
Honestly if I had all that money and that house and living life like they do I would get depressed to, I mean to have all of that but somethingis missing and you have no idea what
Personally If I was rich I would not really enjoy it I like a decent amount of money to be able to go places and have fun help people and stuff but I don't need some fancy house and maids cleaning it no way I would feel awful

Politics in general is just frustrating it is like you have be a corrupt person to make it into politics and suceeed except for a few people I don't think everyone is corrupt but honestly what annoys me the most is how childish they all are sure they talk about fixing things but how much is actually done?
They love to just argue and act better than each other and then push all of it on the entire country I mean honestly people just get over yourselves and actually do what your jobs were created to do the government and presidnecy was created to make order and stability but oops I guess people missed the memo
 

hornetguy

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#70
Lol he is just talking lies and throwing out theories and guesses as facts.
Just so you know, the EU wasn’t created to take advantage of America (not everything is about you) and walls are way older than wheels ;)!
If you think that what a politician (or any person) says is 100% true, you need to rethink your beliefs. Most politicians lie, and Trump does it more than most.
More than Slick Willie and Hillary? You must not be very old. Or, you weren't paying attention.
 

Skovand

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#71
I challenge you to move to China for several years and then come back and tell us there is no Christian nation. America was founded on Christian values. Yes, her light is going dim, but she still holds to those Judeo/Christian values for the most part.





No, the left always supports abortion. Always. It's part of their agenda. And now they are talking infanticide, which the Gov. of Virginia let slip. No one has heard from him since.







No one of either side sends Americans to kill foreigners overseas. War is war. No one has the intent to kill innocents. Neither party supports that ideal.





So abortion, not an issue for you. Defunding police, getting rid of ICE, open borders and free healthcare for illegal immigrants, not an issue. Socialist/ Communism not an issue. The fact that they support everything against Christian beliefs, not an issue. If the left believed in science they wouldn't support abortion, transgender/homosexuality among other things. This world is temporary. America use to be a shining light on a hill. But progressives will drag this country down into the darkest depths it has ever seen. I don't see how Christians can't see that. It's stunning. Science is the very least of this countries problems. smh Stunning.
No abortion is not a issue for me. For a fact I believe there is biblical
Support for
It. However, I’ll get to that later on. I am working on a few other posts first. Then I’ll dig into showing what is said, and what is not said, concerning murder including how Jews looked at the stages of life based on what they can see.
 
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Ronja

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#72
More than Slick Willie and Hillary? You must not be very old. Or, you weren't paying attention.
Kids give people they don’t like nicknames. Adults have grown past that. Think however I am younger than you, but I don’t see how that is an issue. I have never heard a politician lie and get away with it as much as Trump. Or perhaps he doesn’t lie, but is just very uninformed and just makes stuff up. In that case, please don’t take his words as facts.
 
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Scribe

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#73
Plot twist: We are americans. The whole world is America right now. Where ever you are, its AMERICAN dominated in Culture. Everyone looks up to American hip hop artists in the next generation. Everyone watches american TV, american sports, american everything.
I find that highly unlikely. I would like to hear from people in other countries if they think there is any truth to this?
 

Hevosmies

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#74
I find that highly unlikely. I would like to hear from people in other countries if they think there is any truth to this?
I can speak for Europe and Africa. Go to South AFrica see what the youth is listening to, Migos, Cardi B. You know the deal. Same in Sweden, Finland, Germany, France, Netherlands etc.
 
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EleventhHour

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I find that highly unlikely. I would like to hear from people in other countries if they think there is any truth to this?
I have been to various countries and while there is some American influence ... I certainly did not see American dominance in culture in Turkey when I was there except for the standard MacDonalds Restaurant.
And this was true for many other places.
 

Hevosmies

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#76
thanks :)

but remember it's God who creates the brain and gives understanding. if i've ever said anything intelligent it's not my glory but His who makes me and cares for me.




bro, this is the Bible discussion forum. i am trying to continue using scriptural language and concepts, and i think everyone here ought to stop thinking in terms of worldly partisanship and instead look at these things in the way God does. there should not be any place for carnal politics in us -- not just because this muck is now spilling once again into the BDF like it's some hallowed section or something, but because we wear the name 'Christian'

If there is among you a poor man of your brethren, within any of the gates in your land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart nor shut your hand from your poor brother, but you shall open your hand wide to him and willingly lend him sufficient for his need, whatever he needs.
(Deuteronomy 15:7-8)
The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
(Leviticus 19:34)
Those verses are to Israel. We dont live in a society that follows Torah anymore, there were no welfare checks being cut in those days, even the "welfare" meatn you had to WORK FOR IT, such as come to the farm and pick up the food for yourself (leave the edges to the poor). IM ALL FOR IT THO, but I doubt folks can live long in a society controlled by Torah.

We arent Israel and there are no strangers among us. You are living in America and there are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS in your country dealing dope, traffickin people and ALL SORTS of ungodly things. SHUT IT DOWN!
 

Hevosmies

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#77
I have been to various countries and while there is some American influence ... I certainly did not see American dominance in culture in Turkey when I was there except for the standard MacDonalds Restaurant.
Even their youth does listen to American music, trust me I know. Its all Migos in there, its all the eminems its all of it bro. Vinnie Paz is especially popular in Turkey, go to any song with Vinnie on it, For example: Jedi Mind tricks - Design in Malice <- Look it up and go to the comment section, its FULL of turkish comments!
 
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Scribe

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#78
I can speak for Europe and Africa. Go to South AFrica see what the youth is listening to, Migos, Cardi B. You know the deal. Same in Sweden, Finland, Germany, France, Netherlands etc.
I don't know any of those people so not really sure what that means. Are the youth all trying to act like prison gangs and drug dealers?
 
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EleventhHour

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Even their youth does listen to American music, trust me I know. Its all Migos in there, its all the eminems its all of it bro. Vinnie Paz is especially popular in Turkey, go to any song with Vinnie on it, For example: Jedi Mind tricks - Design in Malice <- Look it up and go to the comment section, its FULL of turkish comments!
That is not dominance... that would be influence and probably just a certain subculture/youth like many other countries where it is cool to identify with American culture as a sort of rebellion which is temporary in nature.
 

Hevosmies

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#80
I don't know any of those people so not really sure what that means. Are the youth all trying to act like prison gangs and drug dealers?
Yes you got it! Thats what they are trying to do. Its the cool thing to do nowadays.