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Let me repeat:
It was a Republican Supreme Court that approved SAME-SEX MARRIAGE (with a controlled Republican House and Senate).

Roe v. Wade Approved By Republican Appointees. A 1973 Supreme Court decision, Roe v. Wade, legalized abortion by a 7-2 vote. Six of the seven justices in the majority were Republican. This also includes same sex marriage - Republicans legalized same sex marriage.

The same conservatives who approve these abominations against God wants you to vote for them while condemning others. There are many self righteous hypocrites using religion, who attempt to take parts here and there and mix them with their own opinion to create some standard to "un-save" others, while they do not keep the standard they would teach and lay upon others. This is not "loving others as yourself" this is loving yourself and allowing mercy for yourself, while attempting to condemn others by a standard you do not keep. When did the truth change because of who’s saying it, instead of what Jesus said? There is not a name under heaven who has the authority to change truth. Wake up people of God! I pray that the Lord take us back to when we first believed. When we were consumed by His love, and full of joy unspeakable!


Romans 1:32 NLT - They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.

Revelation 18:23 says it like this, "Satan has deceived and led astray every nation by sorcery and black magic."
Repeat all you want my words hold true, that there is a difference between Republicanism and conservatism.
 

JaumeJ

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I have said nothing about the religion of politicians. We are discussing THE PLATFORMS of those who will be represented. So examine their platforms to see if they are doing the bidding of Satan.

The Democrats in America had no choice except to become Marxist-Anarchists. Which translates to just four words : THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA.

Obviously, since they are expert liars, their DNC convention is not presenting this agenda to the gullible or low-information voters (if they have been Democrats in the past). Quite the opposite. They are pretending to be virtuous and godly when in fact they are haters and ungodly.
B virtue of your response here, you are involving politics with the Word. Platforms with Gospel.
 

Hevosmies

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As a non-American, I would really prefer that single-nation issues be left out of the Bible Discussion forum.
Plot twist: We are americans. The whole world is America right now. Where ever you are, its AMERICAN dominated in Culture. Everyone looks up to American hip hop artists in the next generation. Everyone watches american TV, american sports, american everything.
 
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What is important to interject here I think is that it is not we who elect the President. Though our votes are vital to that end. Rather, it is the Electoral College that elects the president through tally of electoral votes. And after that Congress has to approve their tally of votes ascribed to the winner of the office.

I use to vote Independent. Then as things started to go Left in America I switched to the Republican party.

I don't think a conscientious Christian can choose to vote for the Democrats that have demonstrated their vision for America these last four years especially. Any body of elected representatives of the people that commit in total to the soft coup they have against a dully elected President, should not only never be re-elected, they should be prosecuted for the coup efforts. As well as in the course of that, Sedition!

When a party shows you their vision for America is one that insures Authoritarianism under Democratic values, while eroding Christian liberties as they uphold the rights of our enemies, believe what they're telling you. They're no longer for America. They're for destroying this Constitutional Democratic Republic.

If we vote Democrat as Christians given what the Democrats that crave our votes have shown us these last four years, not only do we deserve everything that gets us should they sweep in November, taking the Oval office, and majority in the Congress, but we've also become complicit in conceding we chose a party that chooses to eliminate the very cornerstones of America and her founding; Christian Godly principles.

A Christian that votes Democrat may be able to live with themselves. But they'll have to explain to their children why they chose to give their future, and the trust of that parent, to a party that shows itself to be the party and slave of the enemy of God.

Save America again! Vote Republican across the board.
Russia won't make me vote for Trump.
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will!
Wait what??
What have the democrats shown that is so against your view of God? How is it against Christianity to believe that people of different color should not be discriminated? That someone should not be judged or punished for being homosexual. That people should have the right to get help when they are sick. That it’s not okay to THROW KIDS in camps away from their parents and then LOSE THEM! To call women you don’t like “nasty” and think it’s okay to say that you want to “grab them by the pussy”.
None of the parties are perfect, but to claim that you cannot be a Christian and believe the things above, that is just wrong in my opinion.
 

Hevosmies

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The other day some idiot on CNN said that President Trump is guilty of 20,000 confirmed lies. List 10 of them.
You dont have to listen to more than one speech from him, he just blurs stuff out lol. What a character. Yall remember that ridicilous story about raking in Finland? It looked like a comedy show sketch with all the experts standing next to him trying not to say anything. Hahaha. The real reason we dont get forest fires is because ....... its not as hot and dry as it is in California, who woulda guessed.

But if you want some specific lies, here are some, with sources at the bottom if you are interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

But lets just be real here, EVERY politician lies. EVERY single one. You just cant get elected being an honest man in a dishonest world. It just wont work.

The way to woo the gullible evangelicals in America is step by step:
1. Mention God and country
2. Do a speech or two about the veterans / protecting the freedom of America (despite USA doing the invading)
3. Mention Israel and how we need to help them out
4. Act pro-life and pro-family
5. Act like you are for traditional marriage (Even tho in Trump's case the truth is out the bag already on this one, he was flip flopping just like Obama was)
6. To put the icing on the cake quote a bible verse. "Two corinthians" or something will do

The way to woo the gullible libtard audience of America is step by step:
1. Mention "women's rights"
2. Mention "LGBTQ rights"
3. Do a speech about moving forward and questioning "traditions" and "norms"
4. Pander to the blacks as much as possible, while painting whites are racist devils
5. WELFARE CITY
6. Pretend to care about the native americans and always mention "OPPRESSION" of everyone (except whites thru hiredbyskincolor a.k.a affirmative action)

WITH all that being said, I'd still vote for Trump rather than Biden. But I also wont be as foolish as to believe that Trump is some man of integrity, no such thing as a rich man with integrity in 2020, let alone a rich politician. All polticians SUCK and are evil, you just gotta pick the LESSER of two evils.
 

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this is an interesting topic, honestly I don't think it is a black and white area. Supporting abortion is not in any way good and gay marriage is also where I draw the line, if people who are gay want to be gay I will not judge them for it but you don't mess with the sacredness of marriage that is literally the symbolism of Jesus and his bride
on the other hand one has to not be thinking in terms of human reasoning you have to know what the spirit says.
It is unwise to vote based on your own political values because God uses everyone even the worst kinds of people so as for voting I would say put down your own thoughts on the matter no matter what political pro or con and ask God.
The problem though is knowing the difference between the spirits guiding and our own train of thought
This is why deep mediation and soaking in him his word and presence is so vital even if one feels the spirit guiding them for the democratic party a lot of times God's plans make absolutely no sense to us and why on earth would he tell us to do this and such but my advice is exactly the same with reading the bible, go into it as if you know nothing put down your own views beleifs and understanding because whether trump or biden wins in the end God decides not us regardless of the political party we abide in


Personally I am hoping trump wins Biden has shown many times he is not mentally there and with all biden has messed up on in this race and the fact trump stepped his game up and even has this peace deal the election in my opinion would have be rigged for biden to win plus Trump has a lot of rich and powerful people mad at him like really mad and honestly if your not making waves as a president your not doing something right
 
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EVERY politician lies. EVERY single one. You just cant get elected being an honest man in a dishonest world. It just wont work.
I agree. The problem with the MSM is they don’t acknowledge lies told by democrats.
 

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you can agree or disagree with trump all you want ( i do both) , but one thing he says is 100% true-

the fake news is the enemy of the people.
 
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Can a Christian vote for the Democrat Party who support abortions, homosexual marriages, and socialism? Many televangelists Pastors ask the question, "How can you call yourself a Christian and vote Democrat"?

Depending on the variety of issues at hand, can a Christian vote for different parties or candidates?
At this point in time I do not believe we choose our president anymore, and United Nations Agenda 21, 1992, 179 nations agreed to it, and now all the nations agree to it is about sustained development, and a global government, so America agreed to it which is a government that is a balance between communism and democracy, as well as the new age movement is a balance between evolution and religions.

So Republican and Democrat are working together now, and kicking up the fighting between them, so the people will fight more with each other over Right Wing and Left Wing, and they want the protests and riots, and for it to get out of hand, and then they will have an excuse to go to a new form of government compatible with the coming global government, and say they have to do that for the peace and security of the nation, and stop the fighting.

Global government target date, 2030, which all nations have 10 years to be compatible with Agenda 21 to come together for a global government.

Agenda 21, sustainability development, ecology, economy, social, ban the police, people work in their communities to stop crime, and everyone becomes a police adjunct, and their job is to watch the street and watch their neighbor.

Put everyone equal economically, and social status wise.

BLM is starting Agenda 21 in America and in the world.

We do not elect the president for Republican and Democrat are working together, and America and Russia are working together.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change, which they want the coronavirus for it is according to their agenda.
 
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you can agree or disagree with trump all you want ( i do both) , but one thing he says is 100% true-

the fake news is the enemy of the people.
Lol he is just talking lies and throwing out theories and guesses as facts.
Just so you know, the EU wasn’t created to take advantage of America (not everything is about you) and walls are way older than wheels ;)!
If you think that what a politician (or any person) says is 100% true, you need to rethink your beliefs. Most politicians lie, and Trump does it more than most.
 
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It was a Republican Supreme Court that approved SAME-SEX MARRIAGE (with a controlled Republican House and Senate).

Roe v. Wade Approved By Republican Appointees. A 1973 Supreme Court decision, Roe v. Wade, legalized abortion by a 7-2 vote. Six of the seven justices in the majority were Republican. This also includes same sex marriage - Republicans legalized same sex marriage .

Yeah I have this one shoved in my face when I debate in political forms. But lets slow the roll here. Abortion in 1970s is not abortion of 2020. Abortion was suppose to be what? Safe and RARE!! We know when life begins now, thanks to science and medicine. We know that's not a blob of cells. Science tells us it's not just a womans body. All these things weren't known in the 70s. A totally different time. Had the people that green lighted abortion in the 70s known that 60 million children would be aborted, the population of Canada, I think it would have given them pause. Today, abortion is the progressives sacred cow, they believe in abortion at any stage in the pregnancy. Biden is not allowed communion because of his stance on abortion. Abortion is Americas greatest sin, no Christian should ever support or vote Dem.
 

gb9

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Lol he is just talking lies and throwing out theories and guesses as facts.
Just so you know, the EU wasn’t created to take advantage of America (not everything is about you) and walls are way older than wheels ;)!
If you think that what a politician (or any person) says is 100% true, you need to rethink your beliefs. Most politicians lie, and Trump does it more than most.
the mainstream media lies more all politicians do....
 
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Neither party is a Christian party. There is no such thing as a Christian nation or a Christian political party.
I challenge you to move to China for several years and then come back and tell us there is no Christian nation. America was founded on Christian values. Yes, her light is going dim, but she still holds to those Judeo/Christian values for the most part.



Sure the left often supports abortion.
No, the left always supports abortion. Always. It's part of their agenda. And now they are talking infanticide, which the Gov. of Virginia let slip. No one has heard from him since.





The right tends to be way more supportive of sending Americans overseas to die killing foreigners overseas.
No one of either side sends Americans to kill foreigners overseas. War is war. No one has the intent to kill innocents. Neither party supports that ideal.



Next election I’m not voting period. I think both candidates should not be leaders of a country. After this election, and honestly even with this election I still may anyways, I’m voting left since they seem to be the ones that simply are more in tune with science and taking care of this biosphere.
So abortion, not an issue for you. Defunding police, getting rid of ICE, open borders and free healthcare for illegal immigrants, not an issue. Socialist/ Communism not an issue. The fact that they support everything against Christian beliefs, not an issue. If the left believed in science they wouldn't support abortion, transgender/homosexuality among other things. This world is temporary. America use to be a shining light on a hill. But progressives will drag this country down into the darkest depths it has ever seen. I don't see how Christians can't see that. It's stunning. Science is the very least of this countries problems. smh Stunning.
 

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Plot twist: We are americans. The whole world is America right now. Where ever you are, its AMERICAN dominated in Culture. Everyone looks up to American hip hop artists in the next generation. Everyone watches american TV, american sports, american everything.
I understand that all too well. However, I don't vote in American politics, nor does any other non-American. Therefore I feel strongly that this thread should have been in the News forum. :)
 
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I understand that all too well. However, I don't vote in American politics, nor does any other non-American. Therefore I feel strongly that this thread should have been in the News forum. :)
Agree 100%
 

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I am surprised we don't have a politics section but then again with how bad the bdf can be that may have been intentional. After all here in America there are three surefire ways to cause war with people politics religion and football
 
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vanity & pride,wealth & ease,forgetting the poor & needy
Seriously?!! Did you get a gander at the home the Obama's just bought?! Next house belongs to the Clintons. Joe Bidens homes, one of them is last. And socialist Bernie owns three homes from that book deal. Seems he supports Capitalism,sometimes. Of course they all have summer homes. Don't talk about wealth and ease, take a look at these homes and tell me these are humble every day folk. lol Give me a break.









which one of America's two worldly parties promotes vain nationalism, serves the rich and neglects the poor and the stranger in the land?
Downtown Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore... Who neglects the poor? smh Maybe we should make sure we take care of the citizens before we take in the "stranger in the land" (illegals) Does Chicago mayor Lightfoots neighborhood (pictured with her wife) look anything like these neighborhoods?!




















ask your pastor how can you call yourself a Christian and vote for a liar?


Humm you mean the Clintons or Biden? Biden who flat out lied about his education, who plagiarized (several times) an ENTIRE speech once. Biden who has told so many lies he doesn't know the truth anymore. Corn pop, seems legit. rofl Seriously, it's hilarious.
 

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when Jesus criticized the pharisees i wonder if everyone assumed that means He is endorsing the sadducees?



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Blain

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Seriously?!! Did you get a gander at the home the Obama's just bought?! Next house belongs to the Clintons. Joe Bidens homes, one of them is last. And socialist Bernie owns three homes from that book deal. Seems he supports Capitalism,sometimes. Of course they all have summer homes. Don't talk about wealth and ease, take a look at these homes and tell me these are humble every day folk. lol Give me a break.











Downtown Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore... Who neglects the poor? smh Maybe we should make sure we take care of the citizens before we take in the "stranger in the land" (illegals) Does Chicago mayor Lightfoots neighborhood (pictured with her wife) look anything like these neighborhoods?!






















Humm you mean the Clintons or Biden? Biden who flat out lied about his education, who plagiarized (several times) an ENTIRE speech once. Biden who has told so many lies he doesn't know the truth anymore. Corn pop, seems legit. rofl Seriously, it's hilarious.
Good grief what the actually heck is with that house!? why are we wasting money on giant houses like that when so many are living on warefare and disability checks month to month just scraping by? Obama was a horrible president why does get this stuff and the rest of places are just... I don't get ppl:mad:
 

Hevosmies

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I understand that all too well. However, I don't vote in American politics, nor does any other non-American. Therefore I feel strongly that this thread should have been in the News forum. :)
I agree! This got nothing to do with the Bible.!