satan twists and reverses the order of Scripture - dear Brother you did this same sin in placing the rapture first
Matthew 24:29-31
Immediately AFTER the Tribulation..............His Second Coming on the clouds.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
v13 Brothers, we
do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope.
v14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that
God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.
15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until
the coming of the Lord
will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep.
16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and
the dead in Christ will be the first to rise.
17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
God's Irreversible Order established in Scripture
1.) Tribulation, Persecution, Death for many who choose Eternal Life
2.) His Second Coming
3.) First Resurrection of the dead in Christ
4.) remaining Saints gathered/raptured
5.) Wrath of the Lamb poured out
Whoever seeks to reverse this Order of Scripture foretold by the Prophets, the LORD and the Apostles are in ignorance and SIN.
You have made grave errors in this post. Worse, you did not even know you made errors.
You have joined Matthew 24 coming with the 1 Thes. 4 coming. In short, you pulled both verse OUT OF THEIR CONTEXT to make them say what you imagine they say. Pulling verses out of context is a GRAVE error, done by beginning bible students.
1 Thes. 4
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive
and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. 5:1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that
the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.
9 For
God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation [get raptured] through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.
Please keep in mind, Paul did not divide his epistle with chapters. Notice that in this one passage, we have Jesus coming, (16) the church raised (17) , "the Day of the Lord.," and God's wrath. What is Paul telling us here? He is telling us that His coming to the air and the church caught up, will happen before the Day of the Lord that brings God's wrath. In fact, He is telling us that the rapture will come JUST before wrath. I believe the truth is, His coming (to the clouds) will be the trigger, so to speak, for the rapture. Then the rapture will be the trigger for the DAY.
We could say it another way: it will be "church age" or "the age of grace" right up to the moment of the rapture, but instantly after the rapture it will be the Day of the Lord. We could say, instead of church age, "the dispensation of the Gentile church. I did not say it, Paul did:
17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will,
a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me. (1 Corinthians 9) (Emphasis added.)
2 If ye have heard of
the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: (Ephesians 3) (Emphasis added.)
25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to
the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
A timeline would look like this:
|->->->->->->->Dispensation of Grace By Paul->->->->->->RAPTURE->DAY OF THE LORD->->->70th Week->->->Armageddon->|
Where does this fit in Revelation's timeline? Just before the 6th seal.
|->Book in the hand of the Father->Jesus ascends->takes the book (32 AD)->Opens seals 1-4 (32AD)>->Stephen murdered->-> ->->Seal 5 opened->->TIME passes (church age)->->Final Martyr killed->->RAPTURE-Day of the Lord->->70th week->->Christ's coming to Armageddon ->->|
Seal 1: the CHURCH sent out with the GOSPEL (32 AD)
Seals 2-4: The devil's attempts to stop the advance of the Gospel - to hold the gospel in that 1/4 area assigned to him.
Seal 5:
Rev. 6:9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both
the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they
were, was completed.
1 Thes. 4: 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout..dead rise first....
Rev. 6:12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake...the day of His Wrath...
This is the scriptural order of events determined by the context of the verses used.