I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Scripture.
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Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
Many times I have posted with Scripture to demonstrate the teaching I wish to share, and when I have it has been ignored.
I have also shared the same teaching in my own words based on what I have understood fromt he Word, and also ignored.
The point is, it does not matter whether one posts withunderstanding in his own words, or with understanding supported y the Scrpturee, if people do not understand, they will reject it. I can accept this because I know is anything is truly worthy, aand there are those worthy to receive it, they will.
There is no need to weigh any burden on others than to comein to the forum hoestly and in faith in Jesus Christ. God will assure all goes well.....
Many times I have posted with Scripture to demonstrate the teaching I wish to share, and when I have it has been ignored.
I have also shared the same teaching in my own words based on what I have understood fromt he Word, and also ignored.
The point is, it does not matter whether one posts withunderstanding in his own words, or with understanding supported y the Scrpturee, if people do not understand, they will reject it. I can accept this because I know is anything is truly worthy, aand there are those worthy to receive it, they will.
There is no need to weigh any burden on others than to comein to the forum hoestly and in faith in Jesus Christ. God will assure all goes well.....
Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
well, you should post ( and interpret) Scripture with a true reference that we are saved by grace. when anyone starts with a position of works-based salvation, they are off-base at their point of reference, and anything will most likely be interpreted that off-base direction.
well, you should post ( and interpret) Scripture with a true reference that we are saved by grace. when anyone starts with a position of works-based salvation, they are off-base at their point of reference, and anything will most likely be interpreted that off-base direction.
Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
God will hold each and every believer accountable for the words that they say here on this Earth. Would you rather be speaking in line with the faith according to His Word and pleasing Him? Or would you rather be doing your own thing? Do you believe that the Word of God can enter a person's heart like a seed and then grow from there? How can one do that if they never use Scripture? How can one do that if they are insulting all the time?
Also, I am saying how I will react according to the Word. People can do whatever they like. But I believe God wants me to speak His Word while amongst other believers because that is how we:
(a) Get Faith
(b) Grow in the Word (Learn)
(c) Edify (Build each other up)
(d) Correct others in love who have false doctrine.
(e) Memorize Scripture and Hide it in our hearts so as not to sin against Him.
(f) Appreciate the Word (Whereby we give thanks to Him for it). For it is a light unto our path.
God will hold each and every believer accountable for the words that they say here on this Earth. Would you rather be speaking in line with the faith according to His Word and pleasing Him? Or would you rather be doing your own thing? Do you believe that the Word of God can enter a person's heart like a seed and then grow from there? How can one do that if they never use Scripture? How can one do that if they are insulting all the time?
Also, I am saying how I will react according to the Word. People can do whatever they like. But I believe God wants me to speak His Word while amongst other believers because that is how we:
(a) Get Faith
(b) Grow in the Word (Learn)
(c) Edify (Build each other up)
(d) Correct others in love who have false doctrine.
(e) Memorize Scripture and Hide it in our hearts so as not to sin against Him.
(f) Appreciate the Word (Whereby we give thanks to Him for it). For it is a light unto our path.
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Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
Thank you very much. I have always maintained we cannot e saved by anyting other than the Blood of th eLamb receiving the free gift of salvation and grace, but the minute obedience is mentioned with or without scriptural references to why we should be obedient, I get the "under the law" club swung at me. No one has faith if it does not impel him to works of some sort, obedience is just the beginning.
Thank you very much. I have always maintained we cannot e saved by anyting other than the Blood of th eLamb receiving the free gift of salvation and grace, but the minute obedience is mentioned with or without scriptural references to why we should be obedient, I get the "under the law" club swung at me. No one has faith if it does not impel him to works of some sort, obedience is just the beginning.
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Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
I believe that if the Lord directs what is layed upon your heart then it doesn't matter who receives it or who or the rebuttal that takes place when it is spoken. Example is Jeremiah who's ministry had not one convert but the Lord spoke through him. The other example is Jesus and herod which Jesus said nothing as he knew his heart. We should not come in to any ones forum for the sole purpose to argue a point. We should take the matter if one errs and privately tell them of their err. But on the other hand if the one that misspoke and is corrected then he should admit it and move on from there. God humbles the haughty and exalts the humble. It's all a learning experience.....just saying.
I believe that if the Lord directs what is layed upon your heart then it doesn't matter who receives it or who or the rebuttal that takes place when it is spoken. Example is Jeremiah who's ministry had not one convert but the Lord spoke through him. The other example is Jesus and herod which Jesus said nothing as he knew his heart. We should not come in to any ones forum for the sole purpose to argue a point. We should take the matter if one errs and privately tell them of their err. But on the other hand if the one that misspoke and is corrected then he should admit it and move on from there. God humbles the haughty and exalts the humble. It's all a learning experience.....just saying.
Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
I am permitted to speak from my own experience. Previous to having received the Holy Spirit in my heart, I could not read the Bible; it just did not make sense.
From the moment the Holy Spirit entered into me, I would share the love of God in Jesus Christ with fellow students as read it for the first time, and sometimes before reading it for the first time. I would open my mouth ans speak, hearing myself and learning from the Holy Spirit. Once I had read the entire Bible for the first time, this did not need to happen, and when necessary, the Holy Spirit would bring to mind anything fromt he Word I needed to share with people in my presences. God promises come the time of the end and trials, we will not need to worry beforehand what we are to say for He will speak through us. I know by experience this is true, and it happens even today. As for a Numbered plan of salvation, it is not necessary, and perhaps it is in complete error since God has a plan for each person He saves. I pray all who believe and read here are prepared to be scattered, that is if we are not alrleady scattered, and witness come God's time for each of us.
I do know it is written that God will call His children ou to fthe Great Whore seated on seven hills. It stands to reason that whore being the mother of all whores, will not be alone in losing the true childre of the Most High God, for they will be called out of all the daughters of that Great whore.
Jesus Christ is returning soon, let us prepare theway for others to meet Him on the cloud, amen.
I am permitted to speak from my own experience. Previous to having received the Holy Spirit in my heart, I could not read the Bible; it just did not make sense.
From the moment the Holy Spirit entered into me, I would share the love of God in Jesus Christ with fellow students as read it for the first time, and sometimes before reading it for the first time. I would open my mouth ans speak, hearing myself and learning from the Holy Spirit. Once I had read the entire Bible for the first time, this did not need to happen, and when necessary, the Holy Spirit would bring to mind anything fromt he Word I needed to share with people in my presences. God promises come the time of the end and trials, we will not need to worry beforehand what we are to say for He will speak through us. I know by experience this is true, and it happens even today. As for a Numbered plan of salvation, it is not necessary, and perhaps it is in complete error since God has a plan for each person He saves. I pray all who believe and read here are prepared to be scattered, that is if we are not alrleady scattered, and witness come God's time for each of us.
I do know it is written that God will call His children ou to fthe Great Whore seated on seven hills. It stands to reason that whore being the mother of all whores, will not be alone in losing the true childre of the Most High God, for they will be called out of all the daughters of that Great whore.
Jesus Christ is returning soon, let us prepare theway for others to meet Him on the cloud, amen.
Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
Well said, however, we have a responsibility to counter those who claim God put something on their heart but the truth is God had nothing to do with it.
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 1 Timothy 4
Well said, however, we have a responsibility to counter those who claim God put something on their heart but the truth is God had nothing to do with it.
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 1 Timothy 4
Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
While you may agree, I am not sure you understand the depth and the importance of where I am coming from. You will find those who are insulting do not offer Scripture very often. When they do bring up a verse and you try and discuss the context with them, they just hurl more insults or do not bother to discuss it with you. We are here on a Bible discussion forum and not an insult forum. Folks should be reminded that they need to talk about the actual Bible because that is why we are here. I have seen people just flat out judge my thoughts as if they know what I was thinking. If one believes in the Bible, then one needs to know the basics. Faith, Love, Hope. To speak in love and to talk about the Bible. Granted, I cannot tell others what to do. Every person here will be responsible for what they say before God. I am merely giving them the standard of what God would want us to do according to His Word (if that is indeed why we are here). For man shall not live by bread alone.
I really do not see that happening. The Word of God tells us to preach the Word.
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. (2 Timothy 4:2).
We are also to correct, teach doctrine, and train others in righteousness according to God's Word (and not according to our own thoughts).
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16).
We have people here who actually disagree with the above Scripture here. For they specifically told me that they do not like to use Scripture. This is a direct violation of God's Word and it defeats the purpose of why they are in a Bible discussion section on a Christian forum in the first place. Granted, I understand that there may be times we may always use the Word of God in every single post, but that should be a rare thing so as to discuss a point or issue that relates to God's Word in some way or to pray for someone and or to love them.
I have absolutely no problem with this, either. I quote part of verses and or allude to Scripture many times, too (without direct reference to Scripture). The point is that the believer who knows the Word of God will recognize the reference and be able to talk more about it with the Bible in return. If one just talks about other things all the time as if we were on a social club, then that kind of defeats the purpose of having a Bible discussion. For I would not go to a Bible Study group if all they talked about was sports or if all they did there was put down other people or never bring up Scripture.
Well, the title is true. I will ignore people if all they do is just insult (post opinion all the time). But if they do not do that, and they want to communicate to me with love and respect and or they want to post (or partially reference or allude to) Scripture (when talking about their beliefs), then I will hear them.
I am not saying it is against CC rules for them to talk as they do. That is not my point. My point is telling folks how I will react to what they are saying so as to be an example for the faith. To do what God wants me to do according to His Word. So in turn, other people will want to do the same and lift up His Word rather than themselves.
While you may agree, I am not sure you understand the depth and the importance of where I am coming from. You will find those who are insulting do not offer Scripture very often. When they do bring up a verse and you try and discuss the context with them, they just hurl more insults or do not bother to discuss it with you. We are here on a Bible discussion forum and not an insult forum. Folks should be reminded that they need to talk about the actual Bible because that is why we are here. I have seen people just flat out judge my thoughts as if they know what I was thinking. If one believes in the Bible, then one needs to know the basics. Faith, Love, Hope. To speak in love and to talk about the Bible. Granted, I cannot tell others what to do. Every person here will be responsible for what they say before God. I am merely giving them the standard of what God would want us to do according to His Word (if that is indeed why we are here). For man shall not live by bread alone.
I really do not see that happening. The Word of God tells us to preach the Word.
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. (2 Timothy 4:2).
We are also to correct, teach doctrine, and train others in righteousness according to God's Word (and not according to our own thoughts).
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16).
We have people here who actually disagree with the above Scripture here. For they specifically told me that they do not like to use Scripture. This is a direct violation of God's Word and it defeats the purpose of why they are in a Bible discussion section on a Christian forum in the first place. Granted, I understand that there may be times we may always use the Word of God in every single post, but that should be a rare thing so as to discuss a point or issue that relates to God's Word in some way or to pray for someone and or to love them.
I have absolutely no problem with this, either. I quote part of verses and or allude to Scripture many times, too (without direct reference to Scripture). The point is that the believer who knows the Word of God will recognize the reference and be able to talk more about it with the Bible in return. If one just talks about other things all the time as if we were on a social club, then that kind of defeats the purpose of having a Bible discussion. For I would not go to a Bible Study group if all they talked about was sports or if all they did there was put down other people or never bring up Scripture.
Well, the title is true. I will ignore people if all they do is just insult (post opinion all the time). But if they do not do that, and they want to communicate to me with love and respect and or they want to post (or partially reference or allude to) Scripture (when talking about their beliefs), then I will hear them.
I am not saying it is against CC rules for them to talk as they do. That is not my point. My point is telling folks how I will react to what they are saying so as to be an example for the faith. To do what God wants me to do according to His Word. So in turn, other people will want to do the same and lift up His Word rather than themselves.
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We cannot add to the Word of God. We cannot say that our words are just as authorative as God's Word. Everything you need for the faith is in the Bible and one should never speak out of line with the Bible. One needs to always align their words with the Bible and they should always uplift the Word of God. There are no more words that need to be added or spoken. The book known as the Bible is complete. God will direct you to speak out of His Word. Yes, we can share experiences that we have with God. But it must lead you to glorifying His Word and not the experience. Yes, we can love others. But again, it must always come back to us glorifying God's Word. Because we would not have love or the faith without God's Word. Yes, we can talk about praying for others. But again, I would not know how to pray the Lord's prayer if it was not for the Bible. I would not know how to learn how to have my prayers answered if it was not for the Bible.
We cannot add to the Word of God. We cannot say that our words are just as authorative as God's Word. Everything you need for the faith is in the Bible and one should never speak out of line with the Bible. One needs to always align their words with the Bible and they should always uplift the Word of God. There are no more words that need to be added or spoken. The book known as the Bible is complete. God will direct you to speak out of His Word. Yes, we can share experiences that we have with God. But it must lead you to glorifying His Word and not the experience. Yes, we can love others. But again, it must always come back to us glorifying God's Word. Because we would not have love or the faith without God's Word. Yes, we can talk about praying for others. But again, I would not know how to pray the Lord's prayer if it was not for the Bible. I would not know how to learn how to have my prayers answered if it was not for the Bible.
Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
If you cannot provide Post #'s, then people will just know you are accusing me falsely here. But see, this is what I want to get away from. Having to deal with the insults and false accusations and personal attacks. I am here to talk about the Bible and to have fellowship with the Word of God with others.
If you cannot provide Post #'s, then people will just know you are accusing me falsely here. But see, this is what I want to get away from. Having to deal with the insults and false accusations and personal attacks. I am here to talk about the Bible and to have fellowship with the Word of God with others.
Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
Here is what accompanies a person's Salvation.
All of the following are of the Holy Spirit.
To come to believe Jesus Christ is Salvation from God is of the Holy Spirit. No one may know this unless it has been revealed by the Holy Spirit.
The confession of Jesus Christ a Savior is the spirit of prophecy........
When we repent of the world and all that is in it, and turn to God, the Father brings us to Jesus Christ, as is written.
When I came to Jesus Christ, I did not ask for Him. I prayed to "You are Who You Are," and He graciously answered my earnes plea out of a broken heart for all mankind in a dream. The following day He, after I realized I too am a man and form part of the wickedness of the world, I repneted of this age saying "You are It." He filled me with His Holy Spirit telling me everything is going to be just fine, and then gently He showed me to Jesus Christ.
Now, since that Good Friday, 1969, I have been reading the Word in English every year, and in several other languages, for myself. I have experienced many miracles and gifts of the Holy Spirit mentioned in the Word.
When I have shared the Word, I have also learned things of the Word from brethren, one of whom is quite illiterate, yet the Holy Spirit gave Him something very precious, and I will never forget what he shared with me. He cannot memorize scripture, since he cannot read.
I suppo9se for some, some kind of structured point-by-point, here a little there a little learning of the Bible is necessary with memorizing, but for me, the Lord has allowed me to jut keep reading His Word repeatedly while sharing with others and hearing from others.
It is always very important to listen, especially when the understanding from theWord is being shared. Certainly all who believe Jesus Christ have much to share, so like I suppose you do, I let them, and hear them
Here is what accompanies a person's Salvation.
All of the following are of the Holy Spirit.
To come to believe Jesus Christ is Salvation from God is of the Holy Spirit. No one may know this unless it has been revealed by the Holy Spirit.
The confession of Jesus Christ a Savior is the spirit of prophecy........
When we repent of the world and all that is in it, and turn to God, the Father brings us to Jesus Christ, as is written.
When I came to Jesus Christ, I did not ask for Him. I prayed to "You are Who You Are," and He graciously answered my earnes plea out of a broken heart for all mankind in a dream. The following day He, after I realized I too am a man and form part of the wickedness of the world, I repneted of this age saying "You are It." He filled me with His Holy Spirit telling me everything is going to be just fine, and then gently He showed me to Jesus Christ.
Now, since that Good Friday, 1969, I have been reading the Word in English every year, and in several other languages, for myself. I have experienced many miracles and gifts of the Holy Spirit mentioned in the Word.
When I have shared the Word, I have also learned things of the Word from brethren, one of whom is quite illiterate, yet the Holy Spirit gave Him something very precious, and I will never forget what he shared with me. He cannot memorize scripture, since he cannot read.
I suppo9se for some, some kind of structured point-by-point, here a little there a little learning of the Bible is necessary with memorizing, but for me, the Lord has allowed me to jut keep reading His Word repeatedly while sharing with others and hearing from others.
It is always very important to listen, especially when the understanding from theWord is being shared. Certainly all who believe Jesus Christ have much to share, so like I suppose you do, I let them, and hear them
Re: I am ignoring those who just insult & I am only repling to those who offer Script
Whatever a person speaks it has to be in line with God's Word when it comes to spiritual matters. God is not going to ask you to do something or to believe something that is contrary to His Word. So it is not wrong for me to turn an ear away from someone who is not speaking in line with the Bible or if all they want to do is insult or attack me as a person.
Yes, I understand that not everyone can memorize Scripture, but that does not change the responsibility given to me to do so. I am to speak and live out God's Word. For faith comes by hearing, and hearing the Word of God.
Whatever a person speaks it has to be in line with God's Word when it comes to spiritual matters. God is not going to ask you to do something or to believe something that is contrary to His Word. So it is not wrong for me to turn an ear away from someone who is not speaking in line with the Bible or if all they want to do is insult or attack me as a person.
Yes, I understand that not everyone can memorize Scripture, but that does not change the responsibility given to me to do so. I am to speak and live out God's Word. For faith comes by hearing, and hearing the Word of God.
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It seems your are satisfied with your way of believing and acting on the understanding of the Word of God. I am not attmpting to dissuade you from such, merely sharing what I believe has been given me to understand also.
Jesus Christ is shown to each by the Father in the father's way for that person, sometimes the way it was for me, other times suing a preacher who has that gift, and many other ways.
There really is no argument from me on how you appraoch your faith and learning, but please do allow that our Father is that personal with each one of us to lead us on the way given. He is that loving; He is that personal.
Now I will be leaving this thread having said and heard all I need for now...you know how to contact me should there be anything truly pressing in the HOly Spirit to share. God bless you always in Jesus Christ.
It seems your are satisfied with your way of believing and acting on the understanding of the Word of God. I am not attmpting to dissuade you from such, merely sharing what I believe has been given me to understand also.
Jesus Christ is shown to each by the Father in the father's way for that person, sometimes the way it was for me, other times suing a preacher who has that gift, and many other ways.
There really is no argument from me on how you appraoch your faith and learning, but please do allow that our Father is that personal with each one of us to lead us on the way given. He is that loving; He is that personal.
Now I will be leaving this thread having said and heard all I need for now...you know how to contact me should there be anything truly pressing in the HOly Spirit to share. God bless you always in Jesus Christ.
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Well, it depends on the questions asked. I am not obligated to answer by any means. Especially if they are personal questions about my life. For as you know I will not talk about my personal life here. I am here to talk about the Bible. But I honestly do not know what questions you asked (Because I do not always read everyone's posts on every single page). But if you do have questions, I will try and answer them (depending on the length of them and if they are not personal questions). For surely you can get the answer you seek by asking the same question in a third party kind of way. So if you have a few questions (and not a ton of them) and they are not personal, then please post them.
Well, it depends on the questions asked. I am not obligated to answer by any means. Especially if they are personal questions about my life. For as you know I will not talk about my personal life here. I am here to talk about the Bible. But I honestly do not know what questions you asked (Because I do not always read everyone's posts on every single page). But if you do have questions, I will try and answer them (depending on the length of them and if they are not personal questions). For surely you can get the answer you seek by asking the same question in a third party kind of way. So if you have a few questions (and not a ton of them) and they are not personal, then please post them.
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This goes both ways. God is not going to tell you to do something in conflict with His word is quite true but everything God says fits perfectly into everything God ever said or did. God does nothing part way or incompletely. God is the God of eternity, His habitation is eternity.
I only hope that someday you learn that knowledge is no good without understanding. The word of God is a surgical tool not a bludgeon. The Holy Spirit is able to use the word of God to accomplish that which God pleases. Note God pleases and that may not be what you or I expect. There is where understanding and compassion come into play.
Oftentimes love is seen and not heard.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
This goes both ways. God is not going to tell you to do something in conflict with His word is quite true but everything God says fits perfectly into everything God ever said or did. God does nothing part way or incompletely. God is the God of eternity, His habitation is eternity.
I only hope that someday you learn that knowledge is no good without understanding. The word of God is a surgical tool not a bludgeon. The Holy Spirit is able to use the word of God to accomplish that which God pleases. Note God pleases and that may not be what you or I expect. There is where understanding and compassion come into play.
Oftentimes love is seen and not heard.
For the cause of Christ
Roger