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Babylonian fish hat.
Decked out in glorious attire.
Upside down cross on back of the pope's "throne"
Depiction of a starved Y'Shua on a cross.
Praying to a dead woman and keeping count.
Asking priests for forgiveness instead of YHWH.
Pope has more faith in the pope mobile than YHWH, and fears those he should be caring for.
Gold on the ceiling for centuries, feeding the same starving villages for centuries.
Pope looks like the emporer from star wars. (jk ...?!)
Physical presentation is a "little" out of whack, but then again we all wear some kind of abercrombie.
Spiritually, we are all just as bad heheh.
Having said that,
Regardless of what she conformed to in earthly terms, I think mother Teresa really died to self in heavenly terms.
I know a few personally since childhood who's intent have always been pure.
Decked out in glorious attire.
Upside down cross on back of the pope's "throne"
Depiction of a starved Y'Shua on a cross.
Praying to a dead woman and keeping count.
Asking priests for forgiveness instead of YHWH.
Pope has more faith in the pope mobile than YHWH, and fears those he should be caring for.
Gold on the ceiling for centuries, feeding the same starving villages for centuries.
Pope looks like the emporer from star wars. (jk ...?!)
Physical presentation is a "little" out of whack, but then again we all wear some kind of abercrombie.
Spiritually, we are all just as bad heheh.
Having said that,
Regardless of what she conformed to in earthly terms, I think mother Teresa really died to self in heavenly terms.
I know a few personally since childhood who's intent have always been pure.
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In its basis form, Roman Catholicism places a man between God and you, to interpret for you.
Christians have the Holy Spirit. But you are too sinful or too busy to listen, so your Pope will tell you what the HS tells him.
Your faith becomes based upon the traditions of the RC church, not the teaching of the Bible.
You will be exposed to many opportunities to deviate your belief to include many forms of idol worship and cults within the RC.
You will be given a chance to "grow" into your faith, rather than make a decision. (not convinced this is "right")
So, yes, there are some great fundamental differences between the faiths, but a great many commonalities as well. However, for the believer, the question becomes one of whom is your faith in - Jesus or a guy in fancy clothes.....
And with that being said, the most awesome Christian I have ever met was a Polish Catholic nun in Poland.
Christians have the Holy Spirit. But you are too sinful or too busy to listen, so your Pope will tell you what the HS tells him.
Your faith becomes based upon the traditions of the RC church, not the teaching of the Bible.
You will be exposed to many opportunities to deviate your belief to include many forms of idol worship and cults within the RC.
You will be given a chance to "grow" into your faith, rather than make a decision. (not convinced this is "right")
So, yes, there are some great fundamental differences between the faiths, but a great many commonalities as well. However, for the believer, the question becomes one of whom is your faith in - Jesus or a guy in fancy clothes.....
And with that being said, the most awesome Christian I have ever met was a Polish Catholic nun in Poland.
M
the Catholic church is what grew up from the seed of Christ -- until about 1500 ad when a priest named Luther posted a these on the church door ( this was their form of debate like this message boards is ours)
He was told to not teach what was in his theses so he withdrew with every point except the one he had made about indulgence. It eventually caused him to be excommunicated from the church. this was the beginning of the protestant faith ( protestors)
It maintained the core of orthodox doctrine and traditions however some of the main points of difference
the church maintains that the sacraments are important to salvation -- and consider to be grace
Luther began to teach grace alone through faith
the catholic church believes in the real presence in the communion
though there are several protestant churches also hold to this teaching on the most part it is just a symbol in protestant teachings.
over the years new doctrines have come into the protestant doctrines though on the most part they hold fast to orthodox teachings such as belief in the trinity.
this is just a quick summery but I hope it helps a little
He was told to not teach what was in his theses so he withdrew with every point except the one he had made about indulgence. It eventually caused him to be excommunicated from the church. this was the beginning of the protestant faith ( protestors)
It maintained the core of orthodox doctrine and traditions however some of the main points of difference
the church maintains that the sacraments are important to salvation -- and consider to be grace
Luther began to teach grace alone through faith
the catholic church believes in the real presence in the communion
though there are several protestant churches also hold to this teaching on the most part it is just a symbol in protestant teachings.
over the years new doctrines have come into the protestant doctrines though on the most part they hold fast to orthodox teachings such as belief in the trinity.
this is just a quick summery but I hope it helps a little
The world says that “Christians” who are not Catholic are considered protestant. It’s a fancy label putting non Catholics in a group together as protesting against Rome. So, protestant (as in protest) is the label that's given to all “Christians” that don’t submit to the teachings of the Roman Church/Roman authority.
I don’t like the label itself personally. It’s just not useful in identifying the true believers, because not all Protestants are born again, even if they use the title Christian. I don't refer to myself as protestant, I go by the title born again Christian to make it clear to others.
Matthew 7:13-14: "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it" - among the many, that are on that broad road to destruction, there will be some 'protestants' who were never born again/saved. There are some false teachings out there, which is why we must compare all teachings with the bible.
I don’t like the label itself personally. It’s just not useful in identifying the true believers, because not all Protestants are born again, even if they use the title Christian. I don't refer to myself as protestant, I go by the title born again Christian to make it clear to others.
Matthew 7:13-14: "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it" - among the many, that are on that broad road to destruction, there will be some 'protestants' who were never born again/saved. There are some false teachings out there, which is why we must compare all teachings with the bible.
There is a huge difference betrween the real convert today and the false convert, you can argue all you want about the Catholics, Mormons, JW, Christian Science, etc,,, but the real problems and false teaching and ways is right before your eyes and ears, peobealy in the churh you attend!
Truth today has been forgotten in the modern Christian society and has become more of a way of life for many, who sit under many false teachers who have constructed many false Christ's or another Jesus, totally different from the Jesus in the New Testament.
It’s easy to see this if you have any discernment what so ever!
Today we have designer clothes, designer shoes, designer homes and cars, along with a multitude of other designer electronics to appease the flesh in many ways!
But the great downfall today by far, is the many designer gospels, portraying a false Christ, unable to set them free from the bondages of sin. Instead they fashion their own Jesus that fits their lifestyle. They flock to the feel good churches, full of many varieties of fun and games, but void of any real truth.
Instead of man conforming himself to the commands of God man has God made out to be who they want Him to be, and flock to the churches that ask them to do nothing, but just receive Jesus, so what would happen if the cry was has Jesus received you?
Many people today will avoid any real truth as laid out in scripture concerning repentance and faith proven by deeds, and actually obeying Jesus, and conforming to His ways and commands. Instead they cling to their own false conceived notions, made popular through centuries of false reformed teachings, making Christianity a club to join, with many choices to fit into their lifestyle. Come one come all, the designer church today has it all except truth that will change a sinner’s heart to a real saint, following the real Jesus on the narrow road that leads to life.
This can be summed up as another Jesus, or a designer Jesus, followed by another gospel, because if you have Jesus wrong then you have the gospel wrong also!
The designer Jesus and gospel:
Man is born a sinner, totally depraved, and unable to do anything especially repent, and seek His mercy!
Jesus is their remedy, to cover them in their sins and disobedience, AKA substitution!
Jesus took their punishment or wrath on the cross for them, thus any form of repentance and faith is just a confession, or admittance they are born a helpless sinners, unable, and unwilling to repent as the real Jesus of scripture commanded!
Obedience doesn't matter whatsoever, in fact, if you do anything to add to your faith and obedience then grace is canceled!
Grace is unmerited favor while you struggle in your porn, drunkenness, fornication, worldliness, and utter disregard for heart purity and holiness, another words these things become mere suggestions over commands that will affect your final salvation!
Some teach God covers you so much in the righteousness of His son, that when a professing Christian is committing adultery, porn watching, lying, cheating, practicing homosexuality, they are invisible to God as they do these things because God doesn't see their wicked old heart, He sees Jesus!
That Jesus winks at their love OF the world and the lust of it, as they indulge themselves in the vain entertainments the world has made into their golden idols!
And mixing the holy with the profane is common and has no bearing on what Jesus thinks as the contemporary Christian world mixes the things of the world with God and truth, to draw others to their church, teaching them God winks at sin and worldliness, and compromise.
Jesus doesn't demand holiness and separation, it’s all a suggestion, because He took their place, as they accepted and received Him into their heart, and now they are sealed, nothing can remove them from the kingdom, even willful, presumptions sin, such as child molesting, fornication, homosexuality, and a host of other vile sins that the designer Jesus turns His back on!
There are many more scenarios that could be added to this but I hope you get the message that there are clearly two different gospels and Christ's being preached today, one is highly accepted by the vast majority of professing Christians, who have received the mark of the beast, where they are told you can sin like the devil, and still be saved, that nothing will disqualify them from the kingdom, as their behavior doesn't count because they were born sinners, the Romans wretch, and the chief of sinners just like the apostle Paul.
This is a tragedy of huge proportions, and those who come with the true Jesus and gospel, are instantly dismissed, called heretics, mean spirited, hateful, lacking any joy, and showing no mercy as they stand against the onslaught of false teaching making the real Jesus and gospel void and of no effect!
But there is another Jesus many have not heard of today, along with another gospel, that demands mankind to repent or perish, depart from iniquity, flee all immorality, love not the world, hate evil, love good, lay aside all filthiness and wickedness, be a doer of His word, love your neighbor as self, stand fast, endure to the end, be perfect in sincerity, purity and love, count the cost, deny self, seek first His kingdom, and His righteousness, come out from among her, be separate from the world and its vain attractions, be diligent in the word, die to sin, crucify the flesh with Christ, escape the corruption of the world through lust, wash yourselves, make yourselves clean, stop doing evil before God’s eyes, defend and contend earnestly for the faith, prove your repentance and faith by your deeds, and many more commands the real Jesus made clear as He boldly proclaimed to His followers that the road is narrow and difficult, and few will find it, He said to strive and agonize to enter the kingdom, and that He wouldn't do it for you, BUT give you all the power and strength to make your calling sure and overcome the world and its evil ways!
I want to stress, that when a truly repentant heart falls at the mercy of God, and this repentance is sincere and produces real godly sorrow, through a crisis of conviction, which we have free will and ability to do, then the power of God, along with His truth, and love floods into the heart, as He quickens and makes anew, a dead heart and life, and shows them His great love, power, and mercy.
This is the synergy the Bible talks about, where we work together with God in the redemption process, which is long forgotten today thanks to all the reformed errors that have made a designer Jesus and gospel, void and unable to free mankind from sin in any way!
Many will claim it doesn't matter when you repent, or it doesn't matter if you believe original sin, or imputation, or OSAS, etc., as long as you repent and come to a saving faith, but I say this is backwards as to the process clearly laid out in scripture, and those who claim they were saved another way, or have no problem with all the reformed and worldly teachings being sold for profit today, are lacking the spirit of truth! Because if they were being led by the spirit of truth, they would clearly see their errors, and I mean the big errors that contradict the Bible, and they would repent of their errors and defend against them.
Remember, a little leaven ruins the whole lump, and whoever doesn't abide in the doctrines of Christ doesn't have God, so be greatly aware what you believe and how you hear it, and get back to the real Jesus and gospel, where the truth was never compromised, and many saints of old died brutal deaths standing up for it, and walking the walk on the narrow road. knowing that they were accountable to God for their actions, and having an obedient faith that produced heart purity, as they walked in the spirit, giving no provision for the flesh,. Where they actually crucified their flesh with Christ once and for all, by repenting of all known sin, denying self and following Jesus on the narrow path.
God doesn't expect us to know it all, and has great patients for those who are believing the lie, but when His truth is revealed to them they have a choice, to adhere to it, seek it out with great passion and zeal, where God will reward those who diligently seek, and will reveal more and more to them, as they walk the crucified life of separation and heart purity.
Truth and error do not mix, seek the real Jesus and Gospel if you have bought into the lie, and remember doing the right thing through your heart isn't being self-righteous; it’s being obedient and faithful to our real King Jesus Christ, who came to set mankind free from sin and worldliness, to an obedient life on the narrow road!
Tommy
A designer Jesus!
2Co 11:4 For if, indeed, the one coming proclaims another Jesus, whom we have not proclaimed, or if you receive another spirit, which you did not receive, or another gospel, which you never accepted, you might well endure these.
Truth today has been forgotten in the modern Christian society and has become more of a way of life for many, who sit under many false teachers who have constructed many false Christ's or another Jesus, totally different from the Jesus in the New Testament.
It’s easy to see this if you have any discernment what so ever!
Today we have designer clothes, designer shoes, designer homes and cars, along with a multitude of other designer electronics to appease the flesh in many ways!
But the great downfall today by far, is the many designer gospels, portraying a false Christ, unable to set them free from the bondages of sin. Instead they fashion their own Jesus that fits their lifestyle. They flock to the feel good churches, full of many varieties of fun and games, but void of any real truth.
Instead of man conforming himself to the commands of God man has God made out to be who they want Him to be, and flock to the churches that ask them to do nothing, but just receive Jesus, so what would happen if the cry was has Jesus received you?
Many people today will avoid any real truth as laid out in scripture concerning repentance and faith proven by deeds, and actually obeying Jesus, and conforming to His ways and commands. Instead they cling to their own false conceived notions, made popular through centuries of false reformed teachings, making Christianity a club to join, with many choices to fit into their lifestyle. Come one come all, the designer church today has it all except truth that will change a sinner’s heart to a real saint, following the real Jesus on the narrow road that leads to life.
This can be summed up as another Jesus, or a designer Jesus, followed by another gospel, because if you have Jesus wrong then you have the gospel wrong also!
The designer Jesus and gospel:
Man is born a sinner, totally depraved, and unable to do anything especially repent, and seek His mercy!
Jesus is their remedy, to cover them in their sins and disobedience, AKA substitution!
Jesus took their punishment or wrath on the cross for them, thus any form of repentance and faith is just a confession, or admittance they are born a helpless sinners, unable, and unwilling to repent as the real Jesus of scripture commanded!
Obedience doesn't matter whatsoever, in fact, if you do anything to add to your faith and obedience then grace is canceled!
Grace is unmerited favor while you struggle in your porn, drunkenness, fornication, worldliness, and utter disregard for heart purity and holiness, another words these things become mere suggestions over commands that will affect your final salvation!
Some teach God covers you so much in the righteousness of His son, that when a professing Christian is committing adultery, porn watching, lying, cheating, practicing homosexuality, they are invisible to God as they do these things because God doesn't see their wicked old heart, He sees Jesus!
That Jesus winks at their love OF the world and the lust of it, as they indulge themselves in the vain entertainments the world has made into their golden idols!
And mixing the holy with the profane is common and has no bearing on what Jesus thinks as the contemporary Christian world mixes the things of the world with God and truth, to draw others to their church, teaching them God winks at sin and worldliness, and compromise.
Jesus doesn't demand holiness and separation, it’s all a suggestion, because He took their place, as they accepted and received Him into their heart, and now they are sealed, nothing can remove them from the kingdom, even willful, presumptions sin, such as child molesting, fornication, homosexuality, and a host of other vile sins that the designer Jesus turns His back on!
There are many more scenarios that could be added to this but I hope you get the message that there are clearly two different gospels and Christ's being preached today, one is highly accepted by the vast majority of professing Christians, who have received the mark of the beast, where they are told you can sin like the devil, and still be saved, that nothing will disqualify them from the kingdom, as their behavior doesn't count because they were born sinners, the Romans wretch, and the chief of sinners just like the apostle Paul.
This is a tragedy of huge proportions, and those who come with the true Jesus and gospel, are instantly dismissed, called heretics, mean spirited, hateful, lacking any joy, and showing no mercy as they stand against the onslaught of false teaching making the real Jesus and gospel void and of no effect!
But there is another Jesus many have not heard of today, along with another gospel, that demands mankind to repent or perish, depart from iniquity, flee all immorality, love not the world, hate evil, love good, lay aside all filthiness and wickedness, be a doer of His word, love your neighbor as self, stand fast, endure to the end, be perfect in sincerity, purity and love, count the cost, deny self, seek first His kingdom, and His righteousness, come out from among her, be separate from the world and its vain attractions, be diligent in the word, die to sin, crucify the flesh with Christ, escape the corruption of the world through lust, wash yourselves, make yourselves clean, stop doing evil before God’s eyes, defend and contend earnestly for the faith, prove your repentance and faith by your deeds, and many more commands the real Jesus made clear as He boldly proclaimed to His followers that the road is narrow and difficult, and few will find it, He said to strive and agonize to enter the kingdom, and that He wouldn't do it for you, BUT give you all the power and strength to make your calling sure and overcome the world and its evil ways!
I want to stress, that when a truly repentant heart falls at the mercy of God, and this repentance is sincere and produces real godly sorrow, through a crisis of conviction, which we have free will and ability to do, then the power of God, along with His truth, and love floods into the heart, as He quickens and makes anew, a dead heart and life, and shows them His great love, power, and mercy.
This is the synergy the Bible talks about, where we work together with God in the redemption process, which is long forgotten today thanks to all the reformed errors that have made a designer Jesus and gospel, void and unable to free mankind from sin in any way!
Many will claim it doesn't matter when you repent, or it doesn't matter if you believe original sin, or imputation, or OSAS, etc., as long as you repent and come to a saving faith, but I say this is backwards as to the process clearly laid out in scripture, and those who claim they were saved another way, or have no problem with all the reformed and worldly teachings being sold for profit today, are lacking the spirit of truth! Because if they were being led by the spirit of truth, they would clearly see their errors, and I mean the big errors that contradict the Bible, and they would repent of their errors and defend against them.
Remember, a little leaven ruins the whole lump, and whoever doesn't abide in the doctrines of Christ doesn't have God, so be greatly aware what you believe and how you hear it, and get back to the real Jesus and gospel, where the truth was never compromised, and many saints of old died brutal deaths standing up for it, and walking the walk on the narrow road. knowing that they were accountable to God for their actions, and having an obedient faith that produced heart purity, as they walked in the spirit, giving no provision for the flesh,. Where they actually crucified their flesh with Christ once and for all, by repenting of all known sin, denying self and following Jesus on the narrow path.
God doesn't expect us to know it all, and has great patients for those who are believing the lie, but when His truth is revealed to them they have a choice, to adhere to it, seek it out with great passion and zeal, where God will reward those who diligently seek, and will reveal more and more to them, as they walk the crucified life of separation and heart purity.
Truth and error do not mix, seek the real Jesus and Gospel if you have bought into the lie, and remember doing the right thing through your heart isn't being self-righteous; it’s being obedient and faithful to our real King Jesus Christ, who came to set mankind free from sin and worldliness, to an obedient life on the narrow road!
Tommy
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Ephesians 2:8-10: "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them"
We are told that we are saved by grace through faith alone.
To have faith alone means to accept that there is nothing you can do yourself to please God. So sacraments, traditions, etc, mean nothing, they do not make a person worthy of salvation at all, no works can. A person has to be willing to let go of these things that men have told them to do and cling to Jesus ONLY, trusting in His work on the cross (not our work).
A pastor I know put it very well. He said to imagine monkey bars hanging over hell. Those monkey bars represent sacraments and works which a person clings to, to save them from falling into hell. Now, imagine Jesus standing there between you and hell. Do you trust that He will catch you if you let go? Or would you rather cling to the monkey bars (works) to save you?
Works of self mean nothing. They are like filthy rags. We are only seen as righteous before God when we are covered by the blood of Jesus. His work not ours.
...Something important to realize...
Only when we are born again do we have access to God, through Jesus, because believers have had their sins forgiven. God, therefore, listens to the prayers of His children (those born again).
**God will not answer prayer requests of those who are not saved nor will He even listen to their prayers (John 9:31). They are separated from God because of their sin (Isaiah 59:2). 1 Peter 3:12: "For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears are attentive to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”
The only prayer God listens to from a non saved person is a prayer to be saved. Until the person is saved they don't have access to God. If a person believes they are saved by their works then all of their prayers are in vain because God does not listen to an unsaved person's prayers. They have to be saved first.
So when we see a non believing Jew, for example, praying at a wall they are praying into thin air. God is not listening. They haven't had their sin removed and can only get to Him through Jesus. They don't believe in Jesus. Therefore their prayers are meaningless.
Sin has to be forgiven before you have access to God, period.
We are told that we are saved by grace through faith alone.
To have faith alone means to accept that there is nothing you can do yourself to please God. So sacraments, traditions, etc, mean nothing, they do not make a person worthy of salvation at all, no works can. A person has to be willing to let go of these things that men have told them to do and cling to Jesus ONLY, trusting in His work on the cross (not our work).
A pastor I know put it very well. He said to imagine monkey bars hanging over hell. Those monkey bars represent sacraments and works which a person clings to, to save them from falling into hell. Now, imagine Jesus standing there between you and hell. Do you trust that He will catch you if you let go? Or would you rather cling to the monkey bars (works) to save you?
Works of self mean nothing. They are like filthy rags. We are only seen as righteous before God when we are covered by the blood of Jesus. His work not ours.
...Something important to realize...
Only when we are born again do we have access to God, through Jesus, because believers have had their sins forgiven. God, therefore, listens to the prayers of His children (those born again).
**God will not answer prayer requests of those who are not saved nor will He even listen to their prayers (John 9:31). They are separated from God because of their sin (Isaiah 59:2). 1 Peter 3:12: "For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears are attentive to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”
The only prayer God listens to from a non saved person is a prayer to be saved. Until the person is saved they don't have access to God. If a person believes they are saved by their works then all of their prayers are in vain because God does not listen to an unsaved person's prayers. They have to be saved first.
So when we see a non believing Jew, for example, praying at a wall they are praying into thin air. God is not listening. They haven't had their sin removed and can only get to Him through Jesus. They don't believe in Jesus. Therefore their prayers are meaningless.
Sin has to be forgiven before you have access to God, period.
