Worse than atheist is the modern day luke warm American so called christian. Professing Christ in word, but denying Him in deed being abominable, disobedient, and in every good work reprobate Titus 1:16. When a person claims christianity goes to church every Sunday, but lives in sin, in open rebellion to God, and his word. That is far more sinister than the hard core atheist shaking his fist toward the sky cursing the God they claim not to believe in. Not only is it a shame to the name of Jesus every time one of the sinners claim Him as their Savior, but it is a slap in the face to every true Christian honesty trying their best to live a life pleasing to God.
I just wish people of all religions can get along on here
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You're right; we should love our neighbors as we love ourselves, just as Jesus commanded.
What I call love may be different then many people, however. To me, and many others, love is the Truth. In fact, God is Love!
But, what did He tell us? Through His Son He spoke, through the Gospel, through His love on the cross for us.
Now, would it be right to hold that back from people just because they might get hurt in the process? Absolutely not. I was hurt when I realized there was a God, and even more hurt when I found Christ. But through it I found inexpressible joy, and I found God.
I think what many are trying to say, hopefully, is that apart from Jesus Christ you cannot be saved. Works don't save you. Abiding by the law doesn't save you. Only faith in Christ saves.
Many people don't believe that, however, and most religions reject faith alone. I don't agree with Catholic doctrine, but I do believe that any Catholic who serves God alone, prays to
Him alone, and truly believes in Him is just as saved as a Baptist or Lutheran or Methodist (etc.) who does the same.
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What I call love may be different then many people, however. To me, and many others, love is the Truth. In fact, God is Love!
But, what did He tell us? Through His Son He spoke, through the Gospel, through His love on the cross for us.
Now, would it be right to hold that back from people just because they might get hurt in the process? Absolutely not. I was hurt when I realized there was a God, and even more hurt when I found Christ. But through it I found inexpressible joy, and I found God.
I think what many are trying to say, hopefully, is that apart from Jesus Christ you cannot be saved. Works don't save you. Abiding by the law doesn't save you. Only faith in Christ saves.
Many people don't believe that, however, and most religions reject faith alone. I don't agree with Catholic doctrine, but I do believe that any Catholic who serves God alone, prays to
Him alone, and truly believes in Him is just as saved as a Baptist or Lutheran or Methodist (etc.) who does the same.
Grace and Love
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Yes, believing in the Trinity means that Catholics are more in tune with Scripture than those two.
Just had a thought ...
Why don't you produce a verse and show the Protestant interpretation vs. the Catholic one.
I.E. you would be showing why yours is a better, more accurate interpretation than ours.
Might just as well share this here ...
Having just entered inside the Vatican, my wife quietly tells me, "The Holy Spirit's not here."
I.E. It must have been quite powerfully evident to her at that moment to say this.
Just had a thought ...
Why don't you produce a verse and show the Protestant interpretation vs. the Catholic one.
I.E. you would be showing why yours is a better, more accurate interpretation than ours.
Might just as well share this here ...
Having just entered inside the Vatican, my wife quietly tells me, "The Holy Spirit's not here."
I.E. It must have been quite powerfully evident to her at that moment to say this.
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I'll give you 2 of the worst "most-famous" examples of Christianity that I know of:
1) the Inquisition, and some of the acts of the Crusaders.
2) the Mafia regularly killing on Saturday night, then going to Mass on Sunday.
This kind of stuff is totally beyond the scope of Evangelical believers.
I.E. the Holy Spirit is IN them ... teaching them "all things".
1) the Inquisition, and some of the acts of the Crusaders.
2) the Mafia regularly killing on Saturday night, then going to Mass on Sunday.
This kind of stuff is totally beyond the scope of Evangelical believers.
I.E. the Holy Spirit is IN them ... teaching them "all things".
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I wouldn't be so sure of that.
1. We can not how how Evangelicals would act in that age since they were not in existence, but on the whole Evangelicals seem quite ready for war.
2. You do know the Mafia mainly took hold on our soil because "good protestant" businessmen refused to employ Catholics, thus the only sure fire way for them to make sure their families were fed was to join the Mafia. I'm not saying they are the sole cause of the mafia taking hold, but these protestant men thinking they were doing God's work by not employing those "dirty papists" were indeed one of the driving causes. Crime and gangs in African American neighborhoods is primarily the result of the same sort of employment discrimination.
Evangelicals have been around for what, 30, 40 years at most? 1600 years from now tell me such a thing is beyond the scope of an Evangelical, if the movement even stands the test of time and is not replaced by the next up and coming fad in protestantism by then.
I feel the same way when I walk into the barren and austere houses of worship that Evangelicals call churches, many of which would be more suitable as a concert venue then a church.
1. We can not how how Evangelicals would act in that age since they were not in existence, but on the whole Evangelicals seem quite ready for war.
2. You do know the Mafia mainly took hold on our soil because "good protestant" businessmen refused to employ Catholics, thus the only sure fire way for them to make sure their families were fed was to join the Mafia. I'm not saying they are the sole cause of the mafia taking hold, but these protestant men thinking they were doing God's work by not employing those "dirty papists" were indeed one of the driving causes. Crime and gangs in African American neighborhoods is primarily the result of the same sort of employment discrimination.
Evangelicals have been around for what, 30, 40 years at most? 1600 years from now tell me such a thing is beyond the scope of an Evangelical, if the movement even stands the test of time and is not replaced by the next up and coming fad in protestantism by then.
I feel the same way when I walk into the barren and austere houses of worship that Evangelicals call churches, many of which would be more suitable as a concert venue then a church.
This kind of made me chuckle. In many instances, Jesus didn't hesitate to insult those He was arguing with. He was a fierce debater and I don't think he had any qualms about calling it as He saw it.
I'm not sure where we all get this mild-mannered image of Jesus from. He could get pretty nasty very quickly.
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They never saw it coming.
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