I just wish people of all religions can get along on here

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jimmydiggs

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Hmmm, nine words. The English Martyrs and John Calvin in power in Geneva.
I have no shame in saying moral wrongs are moral wrongs. I don't have to defend a humans infallability.

I have not seen any Catholic admit the moral wrongs of their church. Of course, then again, the Catholic church can do no wrong.
 
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SantoSubito

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I have no shame in saying moral wrongs are moral wrongs. I don't have to defend a humans infallability.

I have not seen any Catholic admit the moral wrongs of their church. Of course, then again, the Catholic church can do no wrong.
Men in the Church can do wrong, the Church itself can do no wrong. Also would you mind telling me the specific conditions under which the Pope is speaking infallibly?
 
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jimmydiggs

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Men in the Church can do wrong, the Church itself can do no wrong.
Yet, you do not admit the moral wrongs of your church.


I have no shame in saying that Protestants killing Catholics for being Catholics, is a moral wrong. Yet, I have yet to see you admit the moral wrongness of killing reformers, or anyone who simply disagreed with Catholic doctrine. I'm glad this isn't 1337. I'd be catching some fire just for speaking against the Catholic church.

EDIT: You want ecumenicism, maybe this would be a good start.
 
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SantoSubito

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Yet, you do not admit the moral wrongs of your church.


I have no shame in saying that Protestants killing Catholics for being Catholics, is a moral wrong. Yet, I have yet to see you admit the moral wrongness of killing reformers, or anyone who simply disagreed with Catholic doctrine. I'm glad this isn't 1337. I'd be catching some fire just for speaking against the Catholic church.

EDIT: You want ecumenicism, maybe this would be a good start.
I have no problem admitting that it was wrong to kill reformers, but like I said men in the Church can fail, the Church herself cannot.

Also still want to hear what you think on this particular question:

Would you mind telling me the specific conditions under which the Pope is speaking infallibly?
 
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jimmydiggs

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I have no problem admitting that it was wrong to kill reformers, but like I said men in the Church can fail, the Church herself cannot.
Jan Hus?

Inquisition?

Crusades?



Also still want to hear what you think on this particular question:
You had to have edited that in at the end, because it was not there when I wrote my response.


Denzinger said:
We teach and define that it is a dogma Divinely revealed that the Roman pontiff when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church, by the Divine assistance promised to him in Blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed that his Church should be endowed in defining doctrine regarding faith or morals, and that therefore such definitions of the Roman pontiff are of themselves and not from the consent of the Church irreformable.
So then, should anyone, which God forbid, have the temerity to reject this definition of ours: let him be anathema. (Denziger 1839).

I just got a divine revelation that the Catholic Church is wrong. *sarcasm*
 

Katy-follower

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Men in the Church can do wrong, the Church itself can do no wrong.QUOTE]

The Church = the people. God will return to collect his church (the people).

Yes, I agree that men in the Church building can do wrong. God even warns us here: Deut 13:3: "you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul", 2 Peter 2:1: "But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction", 1 John 4:1: "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world", Matthew 7:20: "herefore by their fruits you will know them"


Matthew 7:18: "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit"


If the people put their trust in men they can be led astray and they are turning their back on God and his word. I would much rather put my trust in God and his words in the bible than what a man tells me to do.

The bible reveals who the false prophets are. When you read it, it becomes clear. All you have to do is compare a religion with the doctrines of the bible and you will have your answer.

1 Timothy 5:17: Labour in the WORD and Doctrine
John 5:39: SEARCH the SCRIPTURES


A lot of corruption in the Catholic church - banning of bibles, burning of bible Christians.... changing of times and law (like is stated in the bible).... Paganism.... going back to the influence of the Roman emperors..
 
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selenah

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Hehe there's something ironic about this thread....
 
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SantoSubito

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Jan Hus?

Inquisition?

Crusades?
Not too familiar with Hus, but both the Inquisition and Crusades started out with good intentions, and then promptly got out of hand when secular rulers exploited them.









I just got a divine revelation that the Catholic Church is wrong. *sarcasm*
If you know the meaning of Papal Infallibility, then why do you keep dragging it in as if every action any pope has ever sanctioned is infallible?
 
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Brigitte

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Yes, we are called to love each other, but, we are also called to stand for the truth, not to tolerate falsehood.
 
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Consumed

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So, when Catholics attack and insult us, we should just ignore them, right?
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Offense will always come, "attack and insult" as you say, who's fighting the battle, Jesus justifies us all but the flesh seeks to justify itself. Love is not rude, religion is
 
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AtonedFor

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Hey, be peacemakers, and be persecuted ... If you try it, you might just like it.

Matthew 5:
9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake.
12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
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Mich223

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Well said, Shyness.
 
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yaright

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How do you know Catholics and Mormons are not saved? Do you think everyone in your church is saved? You do not know the heart and mind of anyone so what entitles you to judge them that they are not saved?
I'd like to share a couple things with you. I became more aware of Christ's love when I read that there will be some gathered to Him from the twelve tribes which became nations. Do not let the indifference toward the church you chose to go to, cause you to do the very thing you hate. Stand firm in your faith. The luke warm could care less one way or the other, saying hateful things to cause strife. You will find examples of this in both the Old and New Testaments. The doctrines of all the Christian religions are not perfect as some might assume. There isn't a church built by the hands of men that holds all those who are called by Jesus.

Concerning religions of men, Jesus is not on our side.

Be careful how you address your religion. It is far and away more significant to address what Jesus has done in your life. This is Old Testament law fulfilled within you because of Christ's work in your life.
 
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Yes, we are called to love each other, but, we are also called to stand for the truth, not to tolerate falsehood.
Tolorate no falsehood, except the falsehood our pastors tell us are true????? right?
 
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I do not want to bash Catholics,and I will not bash Catholics,because they are not trying to be of the occult,but love the Lord and trying to be fundamental Christians.

It is the Vatican that I am against and the doctrines they put out,and the Catholics need to understand that the Vatican is going astray from beliefs they used to have,and going towards more occult ways,and becoming relaxed in their belief of the way to salvation,saying that even Muslims in their current state of belief can have salvation because they acknowledge Abraham,and anybody that seeks the kingdom of God on earth,even if they do not accept Jesus,can have salvation.

They have to understand,why is there an occult symbol in Saint Peter's Basilica,of an obelisk and the pattern around it,that represents the 8 fold path of enlightment,an occult symbol,and if they do not mean it in an occult way,then what does that symbol mean,when the occult uses it.

They have to understand that a lot of people in the Vatican are talking funny,and going along with some New Age religion beliefs,and straying more away from what they believed in the past,to a more let us bring all the religions together as one.

They have to understand that the Holy Roman Catholic Church has occult theology in it,that identify them with some other religions in certain areas,and has always had occult theology of some sort in it,but has gotten worse now.

Not to bash them,but given the history and the worsening of the Vatican now,why follow it,if they tend to adhere to some occult beliefs,which since they are going in that direction all these many years,they will end up completely of the occult.

The worsening of it,to the degree that it is today,it seems as if people infiltrated the Vatican posing as well meaning Catholics,to change it from within,get in the Cardinal positions and elect the Pope of their choosing to lead it more towards the occult and the gathering of all religions as one.

I am not against Catholics,although I do not agree with a lot of their interpretations,because they are trying to live for God as well as other denominations,but I am against the Vatican who is trying to lead them,to the belief based more on the occult and the gathering of all religions as having a core truth,and they do go by what the Vatican has put out as doctrines,but how far are they willing to follow when it strays more away from what they once taught.

Will they still go along with the Vatican or will they stop going by the Vatican and say,those people have become nuts.

It is the Vatican that I am against.
 
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zackabba

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Guys, let's all just get along.


I look forward to a day when we can all live hand in hand together, singing praises to our God in unison.

We don't need to be judging other people...I mean, didn't Jesus say not to judge others?


Why can't we just accept all religions? I mean, when Jesus spoke of eternal condemnation for those who don't believe...maybe He was just having a bad day...or, you know what, Hell isn't real. I mean, look at all these sites on the internet saying it. These guys have to know something about what they're talking about...look at all the Greek!

We all deserve Heaven. Remember that one verse? "All have grasped the glory of God?" I think that was in the Bible...maybe not...but all the holy books are the same, right?



Anyways, I hope I didn't offend anyone. I don't want to hurt anyone with the truth.


Grace and Love
 
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Tearose84

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Seriously, I opened this thread because I too am tired of it. I have only been on this message board a few weeks and I leave depressed. It is no wonder people don't want to be Christians. This message board would turn me off really quick. Friendly discussions quickly become "I'm right and your wrong", no longer being about scripture but our own egos. Self. And very little more.