I think I should wait until the millennium age to start dating again.

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oyster67 said:
Do you hope to have boy parts or girl parts? :confused:
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We know angels can take human form. No scripture of them taking the form of a woman. We don't know the kind of physical relationships they had in heaven.
 
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presidente said:
If it was wrong for women to have sex with immortal angels on the earth, then maybe you should stay away from mortal women on the earth if you are immortal. I am hoping something in our desires change when we are transformed to be like Christ. My understanding is that struggles with the flesh are for this age.

There is probably some country where a mature white man could find a young woman to marry here in this age, maybe some tribe in Africa. I think this happens to some extent in the Philippines, too. If the US dating market isn't working for you, you could look overseas. Now, I married in my late 20s, and I didn't go overseas just to get married. I was working overseas. But I married an Indonesian woman, and a lot of women there are kind of traditional when it comes to marriage-- wanting to take good care of the household, etc. It's a majority Muslim country but there are also millions of Christians.
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Read the verse in Genesis 6. They TOOK for themselves wives. The woman may have not had a choice.
 
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I'm talking about marriage insofar as pleasing another.

Just to be clear, my driving around, many many travels and adventures and singleness was a non-stop endless exultation of Jesus.
I would listen to sermons and bible CD's for literally 8 hours straight while driving. Did that for literally decades.
Endless quantities of sermons. And huge quantities of beautiful music as well.

Nothing wrong with that bro.
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You're right. But my watching sports on TV was an idol in my life for selfish pleasure until God convicted me early in my ministry when I preached on 1 Corinthians 10:31, which says basically that we're supposed to do everything to God's glory. He led me to use my mind while I watched to praise him for his creative power in creating the human body to do those amazing things. I'm thankful that he didn't guide me to throw it out of my life, because I had a natural point of contact with many unbelievers that opened real opportunities to witness and eventually share the gospel with them.
 
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The one who is able to accept this, let him accept it. ' For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother's womb, there are eunuchs who were made by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves that way because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who is able to accept it should accept it." Matt 19:12 Some can accept the singles life, others never will. It's not in them to accept it.
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I can testify about the gift of singleness. After 56 years married to my dear wife, I experienced her sudden death, and God has made me a confirmed bachelor to concentrate more on my media ministry writing and publishing books and other media.
 
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Bruce_Leiter said:
I can testify about the gift of singleness. After 56 years married to my dear wife, I experienced her sudden death, and God has made me a confirmed bachelor to concentrate more on my media ministry writing and publishing books and other media.
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You 56 years of marriage, imagine someone having none of those experiences.
 
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JohnB said:
We know angels can take human form. No scripture of them taking the form of a woman. We don't know the kind of physical relationships they had in heaven.
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Let's not go there. I don't even want to think about it. :sick:
 
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JohnB said:
Read the verse in Genesis 6. They TOOK for themselves wives. The woman may have not had a choice.
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men take wives, women are given in marriage, i.e. the give themselves in marriage and the men take them. Kind of like receiving a gift, which should be valued above rubies, of course.

In your OP, you said something like, "Then looks and money won't matter" and I think a home was included in that. What makes you think any of it matters as much now? Are you going by your own preferences?
 
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Mem said:
men take wives, women are given in marriage, i.e. the give themselves in marriage and the men take them. Kind of like receiving a gift, which should be valued above rubies, of course.

In your OP, you said something like, "Then looks and money won't matter" and I think a home was included in that. What makes you think any of it matters as much now? Are you going by your own preferences?
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In heaven we will have perfect bodies. Will not need money.
 
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JohnB said:
Read the verse in Genesis 6. They TOOK for themselves wives. The woman may have not had a choice.
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Read Jude. They left their habitation.

I wouldn't count on having a sex life in the next age. But I'm pretty sure glorification will be better than sex.

Have you tried posting a 'looking for a wife' thread in the singles forum?
 
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presidente said:
Read Jude. They left their habitation.

I wouldn't count on having a sex life in the next age. But I'm pretty sure glorification will be better than sex.

Have you tried posting a 'looking for a wife' thread in the singles forum?
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You miss the point. The fallen angels had desires for companionship. They saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful
 
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JohnB said:
You miss the point. The fallen angels had desires for companionship. They saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful
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Some read it that way, and some don't. And, in Scripture there is zero account
of any angel taking on the form of a human aside from the express will of God.

JohnB said:
We know angels can take human form. No scripture of them taking the form of a woman.
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JohnB said:
You miss the point. The fallen angels had desires for companionship. They saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful
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They are fallen for a reason. If there was sex in the heavens they wouldn't have had to come to earth to begin with.
 
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MsMediator said:
They are fallen for a reason. If there was sex in the heavens they wouldn't have had to come to earth to begin with.
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They were not thrown out of heaven because of sex, they were thrown out for siding with Satan.
 
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JohnB said:
They were not thrown out of heaven because of sex, they were thrown out for siding with Satan.
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This is correct. One-third of the holy angels rebelled and were cast out of the third heaven (God's Heaven). But it was not all these evil angels which had intercourse with human women. Just some. And because of that they were locked up in the prison called "Tartarus" in order to await their final judgment (the Lake of Fire). Since these are spirit beings the term "everlasting chains under darkness" (or "chains of darkness") is used to describe their prison. And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. (Jude 1:6) Peter speaks about "the lusts of the flesh" in this context.
 
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