If a Sabbath is forced, Will you keep Sunday holy?

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Do you think that these reformers that give their life for GOD'S word, and went through the Dark days died for GOD for nothing, GO is using them to try to warn us.
 
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The first and most important commandment is to love the Lord, the second is like it, to love our neighbor as ourselves.

If someone feels that it is right with the Lord to treat Sunday as the Sabbath, if we treat them as we would like to be treated we would not stop them from obeying as they feel is right. Likewise, if someone feels they best obey God be keeping His sabbath, forcing them to use Sunday instead is wrong. Both are doing it for the Lord's sake.

I cannot find it in scripture that God changed the Sabbath from the last day of the week to the first day, but many people truly believe God did this. I and these others are both accepted by the Lord.
 
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Blik said:
The first and most important commandment is to love the Lord, the second is like it, to love our neighbor as ourselves.

If someone feels that it is right with the Lord to treat Sunday as the Sabbath, if we treat them as we would like to be treated we would not stop them from obeying as they feel is right. Likewise, if someone feels they best obey God be keeping His sabbath, forcing them to use Sunday instead is wrong. Both are doing it for the Lord's sake.

I cannot find it in scripture that God changed the Sabbath from the last day of the week to the first day, but many people truly believe God did this. I and these others are both accepted by the Lord.
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this is a very fair statement.
 
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bud62 said:
ONE good reason is the whole world has eat up this false Sabbath.
The Papacy tells us that it IS their MARK, and says they are over the BIBLE,
Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
this is the 4th Sabbath commandments, that is being quoted, here where he is telling us to NOT worship the beast, There is very much to show us about the Sabbath, It is A memorial of GOD'S creation, And GOD tells us to rest on the Sabbath like HE did, And KEEP it holy, And we are even GOING to keep the Sabbath in the NEW EARTH, I think that alt to show us how GOD wants us to keep the Sabbath, And the number 7 IS a complete number in the BIBLE, like the 7 churches in Revelation, is the whole church from the beginning to the end of the world, And much MORE, A lot of people try to say that the Sabbath is for the JEWS, But they are wrong, THE Sabbath go's over a 1000 years before there even was A JEW,
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Frankly, your post is almost incoherent.

"Sabbath" is not mentioned anywhere in chapters 13 and 14. The words in 14:7 are similar to those of the fourth commandment, but in the commandment, the fourth created thing identified is "and all that is in them", not "and the fountains of waters". Further, the angel is not telling John or his readers not to worship the beast in this section, but to "Fear God, and give Him glory...".

As for the number 7, yes, it does appear many times in Scripture. However, nothing in Scripture declares that it is "a complete number"; that's an inference made by readers. I don't accept the idea that the seven churches are (not 'is') "the whole church form the beginning to the end of the world". Those were seven local church fellowships that existed in the mid-to-late first century.
 
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Blik said:
The first and most important commandment is to love the Lord, the second is like it, to love our neighbor as ourselves.

If someone feels that it is right with the Lord to treat Sunday as the Sabbath, if we treat them as we would like to be treated we would not stop them from obeying as they feel is right. Likewise, if someone feels they best obey God be keeping His sabbath, forcing them to use Sunday instead is wrong. Both are doing it for the Lord's sake.

I cannot find it in scripture that God changed the Sabbath from the last day of the week to the first day, but many people truly believe God did this. I and these others are both accepted by the Lord.
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YES it is, AND that is ONE of the Commandments that is to GOD , NOT man, the first 4 commandments ARE TO GOD!!!!, The lest 6 of the commandments are to man,
that is the reason that YESUAH says that all of the commandments hang on the 2 commandments , is because the first 4 are to GOD, the last 6 ARE to MAN. So keeping the Sabbath is part of our LOVE to GOD, and breaking it is dishonor to GOD
 
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Dino246 said:
Latin was not the language of Scripture. This is nothing but numerology.
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IT will BE to late to find out AFTER YESUAH comes back, And YESUAH tells us 3 times in Revelation that the Saints keep the Commandments of GOD, And that means that it is A requirement, BECAUSE it says that they keep them, I do not know how we could get any more simpler then that
 
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bud62 said:
YES it is, AND that is ONE of the Commandments that is to GOD , NOT man, the first 4 commandments ARE TO GOD!!!!, The lest 6 of the commandments are to man,
that is the reason that YESUAH says that all of the commandments hang on the 2 commandments , is because the first 4 are to GOD, the last 6 ARE to MAN. So keeping the Sabbath is part of our LOVE to GOD, and breaking it is dishonor to GOD
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only Israel was given the Law. gentiles were and are never under it, and were never commanded to keep the Sabbath.
 
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bud62 said:
IT will BE to late to find out AFTER YESUAH comes back, And YESUAH tells us 3 times in Revelation that the Saints keep the Commandments of GOD, And that means that it is A requirement, BECAUSE it says that they keep them, I do not know how we could get any more simpler then that
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Please stop YELLING. It MAKES your posts DIFFICULT TO READ.

It is simple: Gentiles are not under the Law. That is made abundantly clear in Galatians and Hebrews as well as Acts and Romans.
 
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bud62 said:
the Sabbath go's all the way back to creation. and so does the commandments
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nope.

the Law came through Moses.

Psalms 147- He has revealed His Word to Jacob, His Laws and decrees to Israel.
He has done this for no other nation....

if you care about what Scripture says
 
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gb9 said:
nope.

the Law came through Moses.

Psalms 147- He has revealed His Word to Jacob, His Laws and decrees to Israel.
He has done this for no other nation....

if you care about what Scripture says
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The BIBLE says Remember the Sabbath ,That means that it can=me be for Moses give the commandments , And there is more reasons to
 
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gb9 said:
nope.

the Law came through Moses.

Psalms 147- He has revealed His Word to Jacob, His Laws and decrees to Israel.
He has done this for no other nation....

if you care about what Scripture says
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YOU for get there is more then one set of laws
 
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bud62 said:
the Sabbath go's all the way back to creation. and so does the commandments
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Um, no. The commandments were given at Sinai, some 2500 years after creation.
 
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gb9 said:
um, no. the Law was given to Moses at Sinai.

Torah is a singular word....
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If you want me to prove it answer this.
With out the LAW there is no Sin, is that right??? Is not that what the BIBLE says ???
 
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