If homosexuality is a sin, then why didn't Jesus say anything about it?

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Embankment

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Keep in mind this is a Christian site. Therefore the word of God on the subject is of supreme importance. It is considered an abomination by God! So why defend homosexuality?
I will not defend homosexuality from a Christian point of view.
I believe the Bible views it as a sin.
I was defending it from a constitutional and free society point of view.
 

Johnny_B

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I would do so if I made that assertion; however, I didn't.
It is you own thought on the matter, okay. The 7th Commandment would cover it, all sex outside of God ordaned marriage covenant is adultery..
 

Dino246

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It is you own thought on the matter, okay. The 7th Commandment would cover it, all sex outside of God ordaned marriage covenant is adultery..
You requested that I provide a Scripture supporting an assertion that I had not made. I am not defending homosexuality, as a careful read through my posts will show. I'm not quite sure what you're getting at... is it possible you've misinterpreted something?
 

Embankment

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It is you own thought on the matter, okay. The 7th Commandment would cover it, all sex outside of God ordaned marriage covenant is adultery..
Here is what Jesus said about the 7th commandment.
I don’t see how any man can like up to that one..? How can any of us still have eyes much less hands?
Adultery
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[e] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
 

Jewel5712

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If God said SPECIFICALLY things about every little thing in life we would encounter..ow big do you think the BIBLE would BE? :).. He DOES talk about sexual immorality and treating your body like His temple etc...if youre looking for the quote "homosexuality is sin"..you wont find it...
 
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I will not defend homosexuality from a Christian point of view.
I believe the Bible views it as a sin.
I was defending it from a constitutional and free society point of view.
That's funny since the Constitution says nothing about "gay rights".
 

wolfwint

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OT law prevailed why Jesus was alive. that is not just the 10 commandments

familiarize yourself with the other 613 'laws' covering everyday life and you will see that the people Jesus came to, the Jews, already knew all about sexual sin and the law is plain regarding homsexual acts

it forbids a man to lie with another man and the penalty for doing so is death

all translations say that it is forbidden:

New International Version
"'Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

New Living Translation
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.

English Standard Version
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Berean Study Bible
You must not lie with a man as with a woman; that is an abomination.

New American Standard Bible
'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

King James Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Christian Standard Bible
You are not to sleep with a man as with a woman; it is detestable.

Contemporary English Version
It is disgusting for a man to have sex with another man.

Good News Translation
No man is to have sexual relations with another man; God hates that.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
You are not to sleep with a man as with a woman; it is detestable.

International Standard Version
You are not to have sexual relations with a male as you would with a woman. It's detestable."

NET Bible
You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act.

New Heart English Bible
"'You shall not have sexual relations with a male, as with a woman. That is detestable.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.

JPS Tanakh 1917
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is abomination.

New American Standard 1977
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Thou shalt not lie with males as with women; it is abomination.

King James 2000 Bible
You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman: it is abomination.

American King James Version
You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

American Standard Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination.

Darby Bible Translation
And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination.

English Revised Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Webster's Bible Translation
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

World English Bible
"'You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable.

Young's Literal Translation
And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it is.


Leviticus 18:22

I don't know what else you would expect Jesus to have said about it? I think this is plain enough
Jesus addressed many issues and many sins and, yet, he never said a thing about this topic.
Well, God's word is very clear about this topic! Who dont will accept it will always try to discuss Gods word away.
Interesting is that many people deny that god created the world and believe that evolution theory. But the do not consider that according the evelution rules is no place for homosexuality. Because they can not survive. They can not produce children.
But we must also not forget that God many other things like adultry ore sex out of marriage also call sin.
We are called homophob if we say any word against homosexuality.
I feel it it sick, when it is done that homosexuality is a normal way of life. Nearly every movie shows homosexual people. Homosexuality is a minority in every society, but it is handelt to be normal. Thats not! To be homosexuel is no sin, to act it is sin.
Thats Gods view. If you agree with it ore not.
God loves us sinners, not the sin!
 

Embankment

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That's funny since the Constitution says nothing about "gay rights".
No it doesn’t but it provides the framework for all Americans to have certain guaranteed rights.
It was designed to be an adaptable document that addresses isuess an they need to be addressed. That is the beauty of it.
 

Blanche

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Well, God's word is very clear about this topic! Who dont will accept it will always try to discuss Gods word away.
Interesting is that many people deny that god created the world and believe that evolution theory. But the do not consider that according the evelution rules is no place for homosexuality. Because they can not survive. They can not produce children.

You are right. They cannot reproduce. Actually, you are making a case for genetics, unknowingly, because it is US, straight people who have them. The odds for any of you on this forum for having a gay child is 1:20. The odds go up with every child you have. Think on that. Lots of Christians believe in God and in evolution ... just a more understandable way for God to create the Universe.
 

wolfwint

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I have nothing against homosexuell people. Bible says clear practising homosexuality is sin. Yes many, even christians, believe evolution and creation. So not I. Whoever discuss the fact away that practising homosexuality is sin and God createt the univers through his word, denys Gods Word.
 
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No it doesn’t but it provides the framework for all Americans to have certain guaranteed rights.
It was designed to be an adaptable document that addresses isuess an they need to be addressed. That is the beauty of it.
But there was never a "gay rights" Amendment adopted into the Constitution so those "rights" are a myrh.
 

Marcelo

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Jesus addressed many issues and many sins and, yet, he never said a thing about this topic.
Jesus did say -- through the mouth of Paul -- that homosexual practice is a sin. His his earthly ministry Jesus was expounding the Law, and in His heavenly ministry He commissioned Paul to preach salvation by grace through faith.
 
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (MEV)

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
It does say in the Bible that homosexuality is a sin.
 

Endoscopy

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I will not defend homosexuality from a Christian point of view.
I believe the Bible views it as a sin.
I was defending it from a constitutional and free society point of view.
The problem is it used to be against the law but the more secular the country becomes the more perversions are made legal. NAMBLA is pushing for sex with preadolescent children to be legal. So tell me where it stops. LBGT....is pushing the envelope as far as they can. Same sex marriages legal in some states. More and more towards anything goes.
 

OneFaith

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Can you post the Scripture that says sinners are the enemy of the body of Christ?

Jesus says to love your (He's talking to Christians) enemies (christians are not enemies of other christians, so that means non-christians- which means sinners. (Matthew 5:44)
 

OstrichSmiling

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Jesus says to love your (He's talking to Christians) enemies (christians are not enemies of other christians, so that means non-christians- which means sinners. (Matthew 5:44)
Philippians 3:17-21
Brothers, join in imitating me, and keep your eyes on those who walk according to the example you have in us. For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things. But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.
 

Endoscopy

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Jesus says to love your (He's talking to Christians) enemies (christians are not enemies of other christians, so that means non-christians- which means sinners. (Matthew 5:44)
For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The only person who didn't sin was Jesus. Thus he became the unblemished Lamb of God. That made his sacrifice on the cross able to allow us to be saved by grace through faith in Jesus!! All a person has to do is accept Him as their savior and with that faith generate good works. The works don't save but are caused by salvation. Jesus stated that we need to look at the works of people and discern if they are good or evil. He put it "By their fruits you shall know them."
 
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Same sex partners defy the natural order of God's design. The majority of gay people have taken it a step further and placed pride as there banner. Hence gay pride movement. Rescipe for catastrophe. Let alone teaching children it is natural.