If homosexuality is a sin, then why didn't Jesus say anything about it?

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Funny how you call names . I believe you are a bit conflicted.
Yes the USC can be corrected over time to take care of injustices.
You are wrong again. The Constitution did not need correcting but the Supreme Court did. The ammendment was added to the Constitution to keep judges from ruling in favor of slavery ever again. We are at another Constitutional crisis because judges have no authority to re define marriage.
 

Dino246

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Are you claiming homosexuality wasn't one of those many sins for what Sodom and Gomorrah were judged?
It is from that Canaanite city of Sodom that we get the words Sodomy and Sodomite.
Read my later post, #78.
 
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Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Homosexuality is a choice for they left the natural use of the opposite sex, for the same sex, and this is due to the wrong viewpoint of God, or not believing in God, so He does not operate in their life like He would operate in a person's life that believes in a higher power in the right viewpoint, or does not know the true God.

For God is working in the world among the wicked to get them to see the truth, but those who have the wrong viewpoint of God, or deny Him, He would not operate among them like He normally would so they only see the ways of the flesh which is perverted, and Paul said there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh.

And then it becomes common place in their society that it is acceptable, so the youth do not have so much of a fighting chance concerning it to say it is wrong, such as what is going on today.

That is what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah it was common place to accept homosexuality to a very high degree, so the youth was influenced by it so they grew up accepting it.

The cat was out of the bag and the youth not having a fighting chance against it when it became normal behavior in Sodom and Gomorrah.

God warns us of the new age movement that will be the future for this sinful world, and it will be international law one day that a man and a woman cannot marry for population reduction, so they will push homosexuality as a deterrent against a man and a woman coming together, and it appears as if they want to drive a wedge between men and woman with all the sexual assault charges popping up among those in the spotlight.

They are influencing the children to accept homosexuality as normal behavior in school, and elsewhere, and it soon will be common place, and acceptable like Sodom and Gomorrah, but they are doing it on purpose for population reduction.

Which the powers that be want to establish evolution as standard religion in the world, and people can still evolve to be greater, and are waiting for the New Age Christ to appear to cause them to evolve through the power of nature, and be greater, and spiritual.

And the belief in evolution, and there is no personal God, is a big factor in God not working in their life causing them to be perverted in their flesh, and filled with all unrighteousness, so they will not find homosexuality as a bad thing but normal behavior.

God created nature for a man and a woman to be together, and homosexuality goes against the natural realm, as well as the spiritual realm.

It is an instinct in us to gravitate towards the opposite sex, and it is a choice among those who accept homosexuality, whether practicing it or not, because they are perverted according to the flesh more than a person that has the right viewpoint of God.

Nature teaches that a man and a woman should be together, and not the same sex, and the Bible says that nature teaches that if a man has long hair it is a shame to him for he is putting himself in the place of a woman.

Homosexuals are out of place, not only in heaven, but on earth as well, for they go against both realms.

It starts with the adults and their wrongful beliefs that cause God to not work in their life like He wants, so they become perverted according to the flesh and homosexuality is normal behavior to them, as opposite sex attraction, and then the youth do not have a fighting chance against it growing up believing that it is acceptable and normal behavior, and then their society gets more and more perverted according to the flesh.

Since the powers that be want evolution as standard religion in the world, and honor the God of forces, or the power if nature as their higher power, the youth do not have a fighting chance which will happen more and more, so they will grow up believing it is normal behavior such as opposite sex attraction, which will only get worse as time goes on.

This battle the saints will not win, for they cannot thwart the homosexual agenda that is going on to influence people that homosexuality is normal behavior, and will be international law one day that a man and a woman cannot marry for population reduction, not that they care so much if they are homosexual, but push it because it is a great deterrent against a man and a woman coming together.

So homosexuality is a choice people make, and the youth accept it more for it is common place, and acceptable, and normal behavior, in their society, and by that time their country, or society, is straying from good morals, and values, which today evolution is accepted, and normal thinking, so it will surely happen.

Today the youth are being influenced by homosexuality, and also men tend to think bad about women, and the women about men, more than in time past, so that does not help the situation which will cause many to become gay, which that is another thing the powers that be want, for men to view women as beaches, and the women to view men as dogs.

The youth does not have a fighting chance, and more so in the future, and they will make the choice to be gay and think it is normal behavior.
 

OstrichSmiling

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Read my later post, #78.
I did read that. It is why I inquired for clarity this part of your other post, that I also quoted earlier. " it is enlightening that when God identifies the sin, it is not what most people think it is. "

What sin would you be referring to there then?
 

OstrichSmiling

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Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Homosexuality is a choice for they left the natural use of the opposite sex, for the same sex, and this is due to the wrong viewpoint of God, or not believing in God, so He does not operate in their life like He would operate in a person's life that believes in a higher power in the right viewpoint, or does not know the true God.

For God is working in the world among the wicked to get them to see the truth, but those who have the wrong viewpoint of God, or deny Him, He would not operate among them like He normally would so they only see the ways of the flesh which is perverted, and Paul said there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh.

And then it becomes common place in their society that it is acceptable, so the youth do not have so much of a fighting chance concerning it to say it is wrong, such as what is going on today.

That is what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah it was common place to accept homosexuality to a very high degree, so the youth was influenced by it so they grew up accepting it.

The cat was out of the bag and the youth not having a fighting chance against it when it became normal behavior in Sodom and Gomorrah.

God warns us of the new age movement that will be the future for this sinful world, and it will be international law one day that a man and a woman cannot marry for population reduction, so they will push homosexuality as a deterrent against a man and a woman coming together, and it appears as if they want to drive a wedge between men and woman with all the sexual assault charges popping up among those in the spotlight.

They are influencing the children to accept homosexuality as normal behavior in school, and elsewhere, and it soon will be common place, and acceptable like Sodom and Gomorrah, but they are doing it on purpose for population reduction.

Which the powers that be want to establish evolution as standard religion in the world, and people can still evolve to be greater, and are waiting for the New Age Christ to appear to cause them to evolve through the power of nature, and be greater, and spiritual.

And the belief in evolution, and there is no personal God, is a big factor in God not working in their life causing them to be perverted in their flesh, and filled with all unrighteousness, so they will not find homosexuality as a bad thing but normal behavior.

God created nature for a man and a woman to be together, and homosexuality goes against the natural realm, as well as the spiritual realm.

It is an instinct in us to gravitate towards the opposite sex, and it is a choice among those who accept homosexuality, whether practicing it or not, because they are perverted according to the flesh more than a person that has the right viewpoint of God.

Nature teaches that a man and a woman should be together, and not the same sex, and the Bible says that nature teaches that if a man has long hair it is a shame to him for he is putting himself in the place of a woman.

Homosexuals are out of place, not only in heaven, but on earth as well, for they go against both realms.

It starts with the adults and their wrongful beliefs that cause God to not work in their life like He wants, so they become perverted according to the flesh and homosexuality is normal behavior to them, as opposite sex attraction, and then the youth do not have a fighting chance against it growing up believing that it is acceptable and normal behavior, and then their society gets more and more perverted according to the flesh.

Since the powers that be want evolution as standard religion in the world, and honor the God of forces, or the power if nature as their higher power, the youth do not have a fighting chance which will happen more and more, so they will grow up believing it is normal behavior such as opposite sex attraction, which will only get worse as time goes on.

This battle the saints will not win, for they cannot thwart the homosexual agenda that is going on to influence people that homosexuality is normal behavior, and will be international law one day that a man and a woman cannot marry for population reduction, not that they care so much if they are homosexual, but push it because it is a great deterrent against a man and a woman coming together.

So homosexuality is a choice people make, and the youth accept it more for it is common place, and acceptable, and normal behavior, in their society, and by that time their country, or society, is straying from good morals, and values, which today evolution is accepted, and normal thinking, so it will surely happen.

Today the youth are being influenced by homosexuality, and also men tend to think bad about women, and the women about men, more than in time past, so that does not help the situation which will cause many to become gay, which that is another thing the powers that be want, for men to view women as beaches, and the women to view men as dogs.

The youth does not have a fighting chance, and more so in the future, and they will make the choice to be gay and think it is normal behavior.
Now it is getting even worse in worldly matters of condoning and promoting the sin of sodomy and transgender.
There's a coloring book out that is for very young age groups and informs them that men have periods.
There's a homosexual advocacy group GLSEN , that goes to schools an "teaches" about homosexuality and transgender. The Homosexual and Tranny community claim they don't recruit GLSEN is proof that's not true.

That old adage, those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it, is very real. I think especially as pertains to Biblical historic accounts of things like the destruction of S&G.
Sodom & Gomorrah sinned for generations until the stench of it reached Heaven and then God acted and wiped the abomination from the face of the earth.

Sodom was the microcosm for the macrocosm that is at large today. Nations all over the world that use to have laws against open homosexuality and transgender are now overturning those and giving their number special rights. Namely in America the right to punish anyone of faith who openly disagrees with the behavior.

I think if people learn to turn from sin rather than condone it and defend it with political activism that then turns against religious liberty, we may not suffer a repeat of history. As it is however, I'd say look to the skies. First giant meteor that seems bound for San Francisco or Rehoboth Beach Delaware, watch out. :giggle:
 
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I did read that. It is why I inquired for clarity this part of your other post, that I also quoted earlier. " it is enlightening that when God identifies the sin, it is not what most people think it is. "

What sin would you be referring to there then?
The gay activists say "inhospitality" was the sin of Sodom. Let's see if that is what Dino says too.
 

Dino246

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I did read that. It is why I inquired for clarity this part of your other post, that I also quoted earlier. " it is enlightening that when God identifies the sin, it is not what most people think it is. "

What sin would you be referring to there then?
The sins (plural) mentioned (in order) are pride, selfishness, uncaring attitudes toward the poor, haughtiness, and abomination (which in context refers to the depravity of licentiousness and attempted homosexual rape) which led to its destruction.

The gay activists say "inhospitality" was the sin of Sodom. Let's see if that is what Dino says too.
Ah.. guilt by association. A fallacious accusation.

For the record, homosexuality is sin.

Satisfied? Probably not; you've a bee in your bonnet.
 

OstrichSmiling

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The sins (plural) mentioned (in order) are pride, selfishness, uncaring attitudes toward the poor, haughtiness, and abomination (which in context refers to the depravity of licentiousness and attempted homosexual rape) which led to its destruction.



Ah.. guilt by association. A fallacious accusation.

For the record, homosexuality is sin.

Satisfied? Probably not; you've a bee in your bonnet.
That's a lot of sarcasm for someone who just politely asked for clarification.
 
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theanointedsinner

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the Bible never mentioned anything about littering, graffiti, and vandalism,

but the logic of the OP indicates that it's perfectly ok, even though it breaks the law to do so
which contradicts Romans 13:1-7

and the Bible want us to obey the law, as hateful and forceful as that may sound, but Romans 13:1-7 wants us to obey laws
 

Dino246

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That's a lot of sarcasm for someone who just politely asked for clarification.
I gave you a straightforward and respectful response.

Then I quoted another poster who has been quite disrespectful toward me and toward others. The sarcasm was for them. My apologies if you misread that as being directed at you.
 
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The sins (plural) mentioned (in order) are pride, selfishness, uncaring attitudes toward the poor, haughtiness, and abomination (which in context refers to the depravity of licentiousness and attempted homosexual rape) which led to its destruction.



Ah.. guilt by association. A fallacious accusation.

For the record, homosexuality is sin.

Satisfied? Probably not; you've a bee in your bonnet.
Coming from you who thinks attempted homosexual rape not homosexuality itself was the sin of Sodom.
 

Dino246

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Coming from you who thinks attempted homosexual rape not homosexuality itself was the sin of Sodom.
Yawn. You are so quick to throw shade. One day, perhaps, you'll learn to think first.
 

Endoscopy

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It is your right to have that view.
There are many millions of people who have a different view.
Those peoples vote & pay taxes same as you.
Keep in mind this is a Christian site. Therefore the word of God on the subject is of supreme importance. It is considered an abomination by God! So why defend homosexuality?
 

Blanche

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you use the computer, you drive a car, you use devices all around your home, those are from scientific methods by the calculations of mathematics. not ALL science is bad. if you actually knew science, you would know it proves God is real without the use of scripture!!

I guess you missed my sarcasm ....
 
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All science ... all Medical associations worldwide are propagating a myth. I guess Evolution is a myth as well. Well, whatever you have to do to keep your "faith" intact, I guess.

So you are saying that straight people never chose, but homosexuals DID choose? huh?? And why choose something that would cause you so much pain and misery due to others? Makes no sense. The whole choice thng is bs.
There is no evidence that homosexuality is hard wired into a brain at birth or that there is a genetic component.
As well evolution is very much a theory and an honest scientist will own up to this truth.

Stating that this is BS is rather ironic considering you have no empirical scientific evidence or mathematical proof to support your theory.
It would seem your knowledge of science, biology and neuroscience is limited and like most people rely upon the latest sound bite on the news.
 

PennEd

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Jesus TWICE quotes Moses from Genesis: Matthew 19:
4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who[a]made them at the beginning ‘made them MALE and FEMALE,’ 5 and said,‘For this reason a MAN shall leave his FATHER and MOTHER and be joined to his WIFE, and the two shall become ONE FLESH’? 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”


Jesus does not even allow for the POSSIBILITY of homosexuality.

ANY sexual relationship outside of marriage between ONE woman and ONE man is sin.

That should answer the OPs question. Somehow I don't think it will. We'll see.
 

OstrichSmiling

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I gave you a straightforward and respectful response.

Then I quoted another poster who has been quite disrespectful toward me and toward others. The sarcasm was for them. My apologies if you misread that as being directed at you.
Thank you. I appreciate your clarification and apologize for my prior remarks thinking you were directing sarcasm toward me. The problem with having DTB on ignore is I don't read them at all. Even when quoted. That was my error.
I do apologize.
 

OstrichSmiling

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All science ... all Medical associations worldwide are propagating a myth. I guess Evolution is a myth as well. Well, whatever you have to do to keep your "faith" intact, I guess.

So you are saying that straight people never chose, but homosexuals DID choose? huh?? And why choose something that would cause you so much pain and misery due to others? Makes no sense. The whole choice thng is bs.
Well, you know what they say, when you're not of our faith and have no respect for it or us, why not respect yourself more and leave?
That way you don't serve as a terrible example of what fallen souls act like when the spirit of Christ lives on a forum such as this one. Though, please do not misunderstand me. You and DevotiontoBible are God sent for precisely that purpose. To show us what dead in one's sins acts like when in the midst of a group of more than 2 or three wherein Christ is then among us all. As we share in the spirit of his word.

Maybe you're here so that you find your way to redemption. :)
 
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Jesus addressed many issues and many sins and, yet, he never said a thing about this topic.
Ummm.....shakes head at the foolishness of this line of thought in light of ALL the bile has to say on the issue....I am the LORD thy GOD I change NOT........WOW...
 

Dino246

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Thank you. I appreciate your clarification and apologize for my prior remarks thinking you were directing sarcasm toward me. The problem with having DTB on ignore is I don't read them at all. Even when quoted. That was my error.
I do apologize.
Apology accepted, of course! :)

It didn't begin to occur to me that you couldn't see the other quotation. I haven't used 'Ignore' so I am unfamiliar with its effects.