IF Money is the ROOT of EVIL, Then Why Use It Seeing What It Does To People?

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SarahM777

SarahM777

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justamazed said:
It's really hard to talk to you unless you have a legitimate basis to build on without blind assumptions. I invite you to look at this video to give some idea as to how it can work.

It's a three minute video...

If you feel that is even too much for you to bare, then atleast read up on how ant colonies WORK TOGETHER WITH NO LEADER.
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UMM People are not ants. It's no different then what the communists try to do,or a commune. They failed how hard is that to understand? It's no different. It's man trying to make a human Utopia which will never work. And how do you get away from others running it. (That is never explained) How do you keep people from stealing in a system like that any more then you can now? How will you keep people from skimming off the top? It's not the money that is the problem,and unless one understands that it's the heart needs to be changed you will come up with a wrong conclusion. The real need is for one to be born from above,to have a changed heart,mind and spirit.

Please stop with this it's a cult. All that is being changed is who is in power and control. Someone still has to run it and do you honestly think that those who run it are going to be any different then those who are in charge now?
 
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And to further stimulate your thoughts outside of this system, how can a pornstar or a gangbanger be a gangbanger under these conditions? I don't believe many women would film themselves having sex for money if there is no money. Or how can a drug dealer sell drugs?
 
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SarahM777 said:
UMM People are not ants. It's no different then what the communists try to do,or a commune. They failed how hard is that to understand? It's no different. It's man trying to make a human Utopia which will never work. And how do you get away from others running it. (That is never explained) How do you keep people from stealing in a system like that any more then you can now? How will you keep people from skimming off the top? It's not the money that is the problem,and unless one understands that it's the heart needs to be changed you will come up with a wrong conclusion. The real need is for one to be born from above,to have a changed heart,mind and spirit.

Please stop with this it's a cult. All that is being changed is who is in power and control. Someone still has to run it and do you honestly think that those who run it are going to be any different then those who are in charge now?
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Again, instead of blindly rejecting it, at least watch the damn 3 min video! Communism has MONEY! If you and three others were on a 4,000 acre Island full of fish in the water, fruit trees as far as the eye can see and enough room for all to comfortably live, what would there be to steal?
 
SarahM777

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justamazed said:
And to further stimulate your thoughts outside of this system, how can a pornstar or a gangbanger be a gangbanger under these conditions? I don't believe many women would film themselves having sex for money if there is no money. Or how can a drug dealer sell drugs?
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They will just trade for other things it just won't be money. Perhaps power and influence to better their own position,or other stuff. Do you think that before money came along that prostitution didn't exist,or that smugglers,thieves and pirates didn't exist before money was invented?
 
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think north Alaska...take a warm coat:p
or look up the word perplexity then get a job.
oh how i wonder about some americans.
 
raf

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Money is only a object a tool used by man it can be used for evil or good depends on man.
 
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SarahM777 said:
UMM People are not ants. It's no different then what the communists try to do,or a commune. They failed how hard is that to understand? It's no different. It's man trying to make a human Utopia which will never work. And how do you get away from others running it. (That is never explained) How do you keep people from stealing in a system like that any more then you can now? How will you keep people from skimming off the top? It's not the money that is the problem,and unless one understands that it's the heart needs to be changed you will come up with a wrong conclusion. The real need is for one to be born from above,to have a changed heart,mind and spirit.

Please stop with this it's a cult. All that is being changed is who is in power and control. Someone still has to run it and do you honestly think that those who run it are going to be any different then those who are in charge now?
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UMM IT'S THE BIBLE THAT TOLD YOU TO CONSIDER THESE INSECTS AND HOW SMARTER THEY ARE TO US! But we see your response to it///

Proverbs 6:6-9

[SUP]6 [/SUP]Go to the ant, thou sluggard; (why?) consider her ways, and be wise: (Oh, that's why. to consider their ways AND BE WISE)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler,(How do they be so organized without a ruler??? I won't know unless I read about them)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? (How long indeed. You are valuing money over the poor who either cannot or will not work) when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep?

 
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justamazed said:
UMM IT'S THE BIBLE THAT TOLD YOU TO CONSIDER THESE INSECTS AND HOW SMARTER THEY ARE TO US! But we see your response to it///

Proverbs 6:6-9

[SUP]6 [/SUP]Go to the ant, thou sluggard; (why?) consider her ways, and be wise: (Oh, that's why. to consider their ways AND BE WISE)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler,(How do they be so organized without a ruler??? I won't know unless I read about them)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? (How long indeed. You are valuing money over the poor who either cannot or will not work) when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep?
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Are YOU a sluggard?
 
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Abiding said:
think north Alaska...take a warm coat:p
or look up the word perplexity then get a job.
oh how i wonder about some americans.
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Remember Pharaoh said the same thing to Moses. We see how that turned out for him. But God has hardened your heart just as He did Pharaoh's, to the point to where I can show you have the same mentality as he did and STILL you will not waiver.
 
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SarahM777 said:
They will just trade for other things it just won't be money. Perhaps power and influence to better their own position,or other stuff. Do you think that before money came along that prostitution didn't exist,or that smugglers,thieves and pirates didn't exist before money was invented?
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There is no respect of persons in this system. And I do not know, you tell me. I can only answer for my day. Let the dead bury their own dead. But I believe that you can only speak of what you know and since either of us have never seen a world without money, how would you know?
 
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SarahM777 said:
Could you clarify this,Are you saying you don't want to work?
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I hate this place....... I swear to you this world could be better but we hate eachother. No, I do not want to work for a corrupt system any longer. My work is to Labor into rest now.
 
SarahM777

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justamazed said:
I hate this place....... I swear to you this world could be better but we hate eachother. No, I do not want to work for a corrupt system any longer. My work is to Labor into rest now.
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I am not sure I understand this but to me it sounds like you want someone else to do the work for you so you can be provided for. If this not the case please clarify. But that is what it sounds like. (I do have a sister that sounds just like,she doesn't want to work,but she wants all the stuff,and she is quite able to work)
 
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justamazed said:
Remember Pharaoh said the same thing to Moses. We see how that turned out for him. But God has hardened your heart just as He did Pharaoh's, to the point to where I can show you have the same mentality as he did and STILL you will not waiver.
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are you trying to make me talk unkind? or are your meds off? You slipping off the rational radar.
 
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justamazed said:
I hate this place....... I swear to you this world could be better but we hate eachother. No, I do not want to work for a corrupt system any longer. My work is to Labor into rest now.
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memo to justamazed: your not supposed to like this place...thats the point ok?
 
JaumeJ

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Do you see the confusion here? First there is reference to God having hardened pharoah's heart, but it is followed by the mentality of pharoah. This would be puzzling if not seen immediately. If God stops someone from seeing anything or understanding, no mentality will ever overcome God's will. Of course the individual would have to believe God before the powers of a mere creature's mind, right? I think you are wasting your time; it is as though you are talking to a stick. If anyone thinks my comment is unkind, it is intended to enlighten, however it is in response to cruelty.

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are you trying to make me talk unkind? or are your meds off? You slipping off the rational radar.
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Justamazed im right now planning a trip to be with a dying friend
and him and you make me think of this scripture....it would do you good
to read and meditate on the text..ill provide a part of it.

[h=3]Romans 8:18-25[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]18 [/SUP]For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
 
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Abiding said:
think north Alaska...take a warm coat:p
or look up the word perplexity then get a job.
oh how i wonder about some americans.
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SarahM777 said:
I am not sure I understand this but to me it sounds like you want someone else to do the work for you so you can be provided for. If this not the case please clarify. But that is what it sounds like. (I do have a sister that sounds just like,she doesn't want to work,but she wants all the stuff,and she is quite able to work)
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JaumeJ said:
Do you see the confusion here? First there is reference to God having hardened pharoah's heart, but it is followed by the mentality of pharoah. This would be puzzling if not seen immediately. If God stops someone from seeing anything or understanding, no mentality will ever overcome God's will. Of course the individual would have to believe God before the powers of a mere creature's mind, right? I think you are wasting your time; it is as though you are talking to a stick. If anyone thinks my comment is unkind, it is intended to enlighten, however it is in response to cruelty.
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Exodus 5:1-5

5 And afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And Pharaoh said, Who is the Lord, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the Lord, neither will I let Israel go.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And they said, The God of the Hebrews hath met with us: let us go, we pray thee, three days' journey into the desert, and sacrifice unto the Lord our God; lest he fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And the king of Egypt said unto them, Wherefore do ye, Moses and Aaron, let the people from their works? get you unto your burdens.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them rest from their burdens.
 
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justamazed said:
Exodus 5:1-5

5 And afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And Pharaoh said, Who is the Lord, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the Lord, neither will I let Israel go.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And they said, The God of the Hebrews hath met with us: let us go, we pray thee, three days' journey into the desert, and sacrifice unto the Lord our God; lest he fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And the king of Egypt said unto them, Wherefore do ye, Moses and Aaron, let the people from their works? get you unto your burdens.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them rest from their burdens.
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Well then id say you should obey the inference and let us go. And go get a job.
Then put your money where your mouth is. Yup thats what you need to do.
You know in my short lifetime the worst things ive seen ever happen
was the fixers......fixers scare me and cause me to pray.
 
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