If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?
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yeah I think that was one of the first things I said to you was talking about e sabbath seventh day and how the seven days of creation was an obscure template of sorts for the number seven representing completion in Christ and appearing in the revelation of Jesus christ and that it wasn’t to be interpreted as literal time periods or number of seals or judgements or vials ect
I think i remember quite vividly
I think i remember quite vividly
Did you review Post #198 on God's Sabbath Rest - Mission Impossible?
If not, please go read that it is very short but if you combine that with Genesis 2:1-3 like we talked the other day, then you should SEE why the last Trump is the 7th.
ALSO - Foreshadow of CHRIST - Enoch the 7th from Adam
If not, please go read that it is very short but if you combine that with Genesis 2:1-3 like we talked the other day, then you should SEE why the last Trump is the 7th.
ALSO - Foreshadow of CHRIST - Enoch the 7th from Adam
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More importantly the resurrection happens at the 7th trump and the rapture happens right after the resurrection. Since the 7th trump is when the Great Tribulation ends, this proves the rapture is after the Great Tribulation has ended not before it. Since the resurrection and rapture are tied together and cannot be separated, no scripture places the resurrection before the GT.
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tha angels who fell rejected Christs sovereign reign over them and rebelled and so they went to war in heaven and a third we’re cast out of heaven.
So when Christ is given this
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
Matthew 28:18 KJV
and then he went to sit on the throne the devil and his angels rebelled against the at rule in heavens kingdom that rules all of heaven and earth. When Christ the Lamb appears and receives his kingdom in chapter 5 of revelation after he’s been crucified and taken to heaven
we see another renewed and seperate vision of that in chapter twelve and see that Satan tried to kill Jesus when he was born on earth , and then Jesus was caught up to God where he would rule creation from the throne.
at that point this transpired Satan and his angels went to war in the heavens against this newly established reign of Christ crucified and risen for mans salvstion with a word that allows for “ forgive and be forgiven “ so it doesn’t keep Man in death like Satan wants.
he was able to corrupt a third of heavens angels and incite a rebellion but he of course lost the earth in heaven. This led to his eternal banishment from heaven with his corrupt angels but because he is banished to earth .
he’s now at war with anyone who agrees with the heavenly kingdom of the gospel and anyone That eternal kingdom is promised to , believers of the gospel.
so he’s trying to destroy us by corrupting us to not accept the promise and believe we actually have an army of evil heavenly beings working to destroy our saving faith in Christ. On this earth if we are believers so we need to do our best to keep ourselves in Christ with all we have in life but many aren’t to that point of faith where these thkngs make any sense there’s a very real invisible spiritual realm in this world and we can find eternal Life choosing the right spirit offered in Christ
“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
…And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
Revelation 12:5, 7-13, 17 KJV
the devil used to be part of heaven but he hated that God atoned for
Mans sin and redeemed Them from death and hell offered them eternal life through becoming flesh and dying for their sins and offering man repentance and faith now he lost his place and mankind is called to fill up the eternal kingdom of God through the gospel of Jesus christ our Lord and our God
note how heaven and earth are a continual reality concurrently existing when we end our time in tbe flesh ……there’s an eternal world we open our eyes to
So when Christ is given this
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
Matthew 28:18 KJV
and then he went to sit on the throne the devil and his angels rebelled against the at rule in heavens kingdom that rules all of heaven and earth. When Christ the Lamb appears and receives his kingdom in chapter 5 of revelation after he’s been crucified and taken to heaven
we see another renewed and seperate vision of that in chapter twelve and see that Satan tried to kill Jesus when he was born on earth , and then Jesus was caught up to God where he would rule creation from the throne.
at that point this transpired Satan and his angels went to war in the heavens against this newly established reign of Christ crucified and risen for mans salvstion with a word that allows for “ forgive and be forgiven “ so it doesn’t keep Man in death like Satan wants.
he was able to corrupt a third of heavens angels and incite a rebellion but he of course lost the earth in heaven. This led to his eternal banishment from heaven with his corrupt angels but because he is banished to earth .
he’s now at war with anyone who agrees with the heavenly kingdom of the gospel and anyone That eternal kingdom is promised to , believers of the gospel.
so he’s trying to destroy us by corrupting us to not accept the promise and believe we actually have an army of evil heavenly beings working to destroy our saving faith in Christ. On this earth if we are believers so we need to do our best to keep ourselves in Christ with all we have in life but many aren’t to that point of faith where these thkngs make any sense there’s a very real invisible spiritual realm in this world and we can find eternal Life choosing the right spirit offered in Christ
“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
…And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
Revelation 12:5, 7-13, 17 KJV
the devil used to be part of heaven but he hated that God atoned for
Mans sin and redeemed Them from death and hell offered them eternal life through becoming flesh and dying for their sins and offering man repentance and faith now he lost his place and mankind is called to fill up the eternal kingdom of God through the gospel of Jesus christ our Lord and our God
note how heaven and earth are a continual reality concurrently existing when we end our time in tbe flesh ……there’s an eternal world we open our eyes to
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yes the entire ot is a foreshadow of what came to pass during Christs time in earth and existence now in heaven.
and no I haven’t checked it yet , but will yes.
foreshadows of Christ the golden candlestick with seven branches and seven lamps in the law
“And he made his seven lamps, and his snuffers, and his snuffdishes, of pure gold.”
Exodus 37:23 KJV
“Speak unto Aaron, and say unto him, When thou lightest the lamps, the seven lamps shall give light over against the candlestick.”
Numbers 8:2
the prophets
“And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof:
And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.”
Zechariah 4:2-3
“For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.”
Zechariah 3:9 KJV see whole chapter three
“Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts.
Who art thou, O great mountain? ( Sinai) before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.
The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto you. For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the Lord, which run to and fro through the whole earth.”
Zechariah 4:6-7, 9-10 KJV
and then revelation of Jesus Christ in heaven
“And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.”
Revelation 4:5
“And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.”
Revelation 5:6-7
and no I haven’t checked it yet , but will yes.
foreshadows of Christ the golden candlestick with seven branches and seven lamps in the law
“And he made his seven lamps, and his snuffers, and his snuffdishes, of pure gold.”
Exodus 37:23 KJV
“Speak unto Aaron, and say unto him, When thou lightest the lamps, the seven lamps shall give light over against the candlestick.”
Numbers 8:2
the prophets
“And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof:
And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.”
Zechariah 4:2-3
“For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.”
Zechariah 3:9 KJV see whole chapter three
“Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts.
Who art thou, O great mountain? ( Sinai) before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.
The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto you. For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the Lord, which run to and fro through the whole earth.”
Zechariah 4:6-7, 9-10 KJV
and then revelation of Jesus Christ in heaven
“And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.”
Revelation 4:5
“And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.”
Revelation 5:6-7
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i am seeing how Revelation is about JESUS.
Am i noticing that when Scripture says "world" it means Heaven and Earth?
This is curious:
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ:
Do Premills think Salvation with the Kingdom of our GOD is after The Return?
Am i noticing that when Scripture says "world" it means Heaven and Earth?
This is curious:
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ:
Do Premills think Salvation with the Kingdom of our GOD is after The Return?
Sackcloth represents mourning not repentance.
Gen_37:34 And Jacob rent his clothes, and put sackcloth upon his loins, and mourned for his son many days.
Gill:
and put sackcloth upon his loins; put off his usual apparel, and put on a coarse garment on his loins next to his flesh, as another token of his great trouble and affliction for the loss of his son; which though afterwards was frequently done in times of public or private mourning, yet this is the first time we read of it; whether Jacob was the first that used it, whom his posterity and others imitated, is not certain; however it appears that this usage, as well as that of rending clothes on sorrowful occasions, were very ancient:
2Sa_3:31 And David said to Joab, and to all the people that were with him, Rend your clothes, and gird you with sackcloth, and mourn before Abner. And king David himself followed the bier.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Barnes:
Clothed in sackcloth - Sackcloth - σάκκους sakkous - was properly a coarse black cloth commonly made of hair, used for sacks, for straining, and for mourning garments. See the Rev_6:12 note; Isa_3:24 note; and Mat_11:21 note. Here it is an emblem of mourning; and the idea is, that they would prophesy in the midst of grief.
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