If you aren’t going up in the rapture, are you ready to be interrogated?

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Ahwatukee

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So who are these Saints which are of His church?

1 Corinthians 1:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

Just because you dont find the words "saints" and "church" together in the book of Revelation does not mean God made a distinction between the two. Yikes!
Do you actually think that the Holy Spirit is going to use the word "church" throughout chapters 1 thru 3, with the word "Saints" never used within those same chapters and then likewise, use only the word "Saints" and never use the word "church" again without there being some meaning behind it? Or do you think that it was just a coincidence that the Holy Spirit used only the word "Church" throughout chapter 1 thru 3 and then never uses it again throughout the rest of the narrative? Or do you think that by doing so the Spirit is sending the reader a message? These things and others are spiritually discerned.
 
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Re you ready to be interrogated?

Please define “interrogated” in your own words

Thanks :)-
 
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Re you ready to be interrogated?

Please define “interrogated” in your own words

Thanks :)-
The opening piece (OP) already defines what interrogation is from the Bible. Stop trolling. If you aren't interested in reading then don't participate.
 

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If fact, according to Rev.19:14, the church will be with the Lord and the angels when he returns to the earth in Mt.24:30-31to end the age. For we are one's seen riding on those white horses wearing fine linen, white and clean.
Matt.24:30-31, I Cor.15, 1Thes.4:15 and 1Cor.15:50-54 are all 1st resurrection scriptures. Dont you believe that Matt.24:30-31 is a resurrection scripture?
 
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Re you ready to be interrogated?

Please define “interrogated” in your own words
Thanks.,.,.,

Interrogation” is not a word in the Lord’s vocabulary & I wish I had not heard the term myself
Such is life.,.,..,,.,

definition please :)-
 

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The church cannot go through God's wrath, which are the main events of the book from Rev.4 onward. Whatever you read, always remember that the church cannot go through God's wrath. From right now until the time when Christ returns to end the age, the wrath of God will take place in between those two points. Since the church is not appointed to suffer wrath, we cannot go through it and that because of God's promise.
I believe God is capable of keeping His wrath away from His people while here. I guess you dont believe Hes capable.

PROVERBS 3 [24] When thou liest down, thou shalt not be afraid: yea, thou shalt lie down, and thy sleep shall be sweet. [25] BE NOT AFRAID of sudden fear, neither OF THE DESOLATION OF THE WICKED, when it cometh. [26] For THE LORD SHALL BE THY CONFIDENCE, AND SHALL KEEP THY FOOT FROM BEING TAKEN.

In scripture above...who is God speakin to when He says "be not afraid" when he destroys the wicked? Yeah! Hes capable of protecting us here
 
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Your avatar is obnoxious. I have a sneaky feeling it goes with your disposition.........
It is a picture I took on one of my sons
I admit I put his finger in his nose and asked him to stand still while I took the picture
He did as I asked

I meant no harm in posting his picture.

Do you want me to delete it :)-
 
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It is a picture I took on one of my sons
I admit I put his finger in his nose and asked him to stand still while I took the picture
He did as I asked

I meant no harm in posting his picture.

Do you want me to delete it :)-

Cute kid. Reminds me of calvin or dennis the menace.
 
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Do you actually think that the Holy Spirit is going to use the word "church" throughout chapters 1 thru 3, with the word "Saints" never used within those same chapters and then likewise, use only the word "Saints" and never use the word "church" again without there being some meaning behind it? Or do you think that it was just a coincidence that the Holy Spirit used only the word "Church" throughout chapter 1 thru 3 and then never uses it again throughout the rest of the narrative? Or do you think that by doing so the Spirit is sending the reader a message? These things and others are spiritually discerned.
Ahwatukee I just want you to know I appreciate your well executed explanations about end times! Everything you have said agrees with two pastors who I learned all this from out of Ca. You would like them I am sure of it. thetruthaboutGod1 is their utube channel. I thank you for trying to get others to understand the truth about what is to come SOON.

You know what I just dont understand is how can a person be convinced of Gods grace and love for us and think he is going to drag us through the mud before the wedding? smh......
The trib is NOT a time for us! We are a particular dispensation> the church age. Why would God want us around when he is busy with those whom have been set aside till then? Why would the righteous be punished along with the unrighteous? That isnt justice! That is tyranny!!

What is the saddest thing about those who are post trib , mid trib or even the preterist as well for that matter is this: They are not expecting anything marvelous to happen! They are not looking with their spiritual eyes for their savior to take them up before it all happens. I fear many will not be ready and I just dont know yet how God is going to deal with these people. He did state a very frightening warning about adding to the words in rev didnt he? rev 22:18-19. That warning is not the same as the one he mentioned in proverbs.

I also thank you for being quite kind throughout. I have never seen you stoop to insults or let yourself get ensnarled in the ugliness that goes on in the verbal disdain on this site. I look up to you sir! Thank you for being a stellar example for Christ. Glory be to God in the highest!


If you arent Ahwatukee, plz do not respond with hateful comments to me. I will not entertain them. ty
 
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BTW Both of my sons have children who will soon have children of their own

actually they have,

I am one happy camper.,.the world is unfolding as it should

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He said, “My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.” So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so
that the power of Christ can work through me.


May I ask, are these your words-?

“So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses”


If so; Boast on, I am listening .,.,.,.,..

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JustWhoIAm

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He said, “My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.” So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so
that the power of Christ can work through me.


May I ask, are these your words-?

“So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses”


If so; Boast on, I am listening .,.,.,.,..

:)-
Quitting smoking is tough for me. That and a caffeine addiction are my biggest monkeys.

Also, i have a big mouth (a little too brutally honest and intolerant of willful foolishness sometimes).

That signature comes from 2 Corinthians 12. Paul said it. What i meant was, i have more to gain by being honest with myself and others about the person i am in general than i do from hiding a bunch of garbage inside and looking good on the outside (I'd like to err on the side of being humble in honesty over prideful if possible).
 
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Quitting smoking is tough for me. That and a caffeine addiction are my biggest monkeys.
I,ve just become accustom to smoking. I started in junior-high school and my parent's didn't notice while they smoked night and day


Also, i have a big mouth(I'd like to err on the side of being humble in honesty over prideful if possible).
As a friend, Just one that has been heard
 
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Ahwatukee

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Hello MsSuzanna,

It is always a blessing when I see that someone has the same Spirit and the same word. The glory is God's for it is His word and I am thankful for what he has revealed to me and I am zealous to share it, contend for it, correct and rebuke.

You know what I just don't understand is how can a person be convinced of Gods grace and love for us and think he is going to drag us through the mud before the wedding?
I agree with you and have said the same. Jesus said that he would build his church and the gates of Hades would not prevail against it. Yet, we have people who think that once he builds his church, that he is going to send them through his wrath right along with the unrighteous. I have said this many times, many do not understand the severity and the magnitude of the wrath that is going to come upon this earth. And the other issue is, they have not discerned between the common trials and persecutions which come at the hands of mankind and the powers of darkness, opposed to God's, unprecedented, specific time of wrath, which continues up until Christ's return to the earth to end the age. What they have also not understood is that, Christ took upon himself the wrath that we deserve as result of our sins and God's wrath has therefore been satisfied for those who believe. That said, it would be a slap in the face to Christ who took upon himself that wrath and then for believer's to still suffer through it.

In regards to the preterists, I would say that they are on very shaky ground and that because of the warning that you mentioned above. For to believe and teach that all end-time events have already taken place and that Jesus has already returned, centering everything around the destruction of the temple, I would consider this taking away from and adding to the what is written in Revelation. Regarding the claim that that Christ has already returned, Paul spoke about this
regarding Hymenaeus and Philetus who were teaching that the resurrection had already taken place, which he called godless chatter, that it would spread like gangrene and that by this teaching they had wandered away from the truth. Therefore, since the resurrection has still not taken place and the preterists and amils are teaching the same thing, then they fall under the same condemnation, that is, unless they recognize their false teachings and repent. The teaching that we are currently living in the millennium is also a big problem. For the only way that they can come to this conclusion is to distort the word of God by allegorizing it.

Regarding the timing of the gathering of the church, the undeniable, scriptural fact remains that it is the church/bride that is following Christ out of heaven, riding on white horses, wearing her fine linen, white and clean as demonstrated in Rev.19:11-21. Of this there is no doubt! And since the church is seen following Christ out of heaven, this would demonstrate that we would have to be in heaven in order to follow Christ out of it. Scripture makes very clear that those on the white horses, wearing fine linen, white and clean who are following Christ out of heaven, are his called, chosen and faithful followers as revealed in Rev.17:14 and that it is the bride/church that is receiving her white linen at the wedding of the Lamb, as revealed in Rev.19:6-8, 14.

Have a blessed day! I look forward to fellowshipping with you.
 
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Correction: "As a friend, You are one that has been heard"

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Wall

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Scripture makes very clear that those on the white horses, wearing fine linen, white and clean who are following Christ out of heaven, are his called, chosen and faithful followers as revealed in Rev.17:14 and that it is the bride/church that is receiving her white linen at the wedding of the Lamb, as revealed in Rev.19:6-8, 14.
So Ahwatukee, who is the BRIDE according to scripture?

JEREMIAH 3 [20] SURELY AS A WIFE TREACHEROUSLY DEPARTETH FROM HER HUSBAND, SO HAVE YE DEALT TREACHEROUSLY WITH ME, O HOUSE OF ISRAEL, SAITH THE LORD. [21] A voice was heard upon the high places, weeping and supplications of the children of Israel: for they have perverted their way, and they have forgotten the LORD their God. [22] Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings. Behold, we come unto thee; for thou art the LORD our God.

Israel is the bride

JEREMIAH 2 [31] O generation, see ye the word of the Lord. Have I been A WILDERNESS UNTO ISRAEL? a land of darkness? wherefore say my people, We are lords; we will come no more unto thee? [32] Can a maid forget her ornaments, OR A BRIDE HER ATTIRE? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.

Israel the bride

JEREMIAH 3 [11] And the LORD said unto me, THE BACKSLIDING ISRAEL hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.[12] Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the LORD; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the LORD, and I will not keep anger for ever.[13] Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the LORD thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to the strangers under every green tree, and ye have not obeyed my voice, saith the LORD.[14] TURN, O BACKSLIDING CHILDREN, SAITH THE LORD; FOR I AM MARRIED UNTO YOU: AND I WILL TAKE YOU ONE OF A CITY, AND TWO OF A FAMILY, AND I WILL BRING YOU TO ZION:

Backsliding Israel. I am married unto you. Israel is the bride. I will take you one of a city, and two of a family. Sound familiar?

LUKE 17 [33] Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. [34] I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the ONE SHALL BE TAKEN, AND THE OTHER SHALL BE LEFT. [35] Two women shall be grinding together; THE ONE SHALL BE TAKEN, AND THE OTHER LEFT. [36] Two men shall be in the field; the ONE SHALL BE TAKEN, AND THE OTHER LEFT.

Sure does. And they are not going to heaven {as the rapturist claim} but are taken to Zion {Jer.3v14} for the 1000yr period of rest.

REVELATION 21 {9} And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I WILL SHEW THEE THE BRIDE, THE LAMB'S WIFE. {10} And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, {11} Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; {12} And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of THE TWELVE TRIBES OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL:

Theres the bride according to this new covenant scripture. Its the 12 tribes of Israel, just as the old testament says.



Now you can show me all the scripture that say the Bride is the gentile church