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Does the good in the tree of knowledge prevent us from becoming forsaken right away? Is the good our spirit even if it is dead? If the wicked keep their soul, does it represent evil after physical death?
 

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Adam and Eve were the first humans given the Tree of Life as a spirit, but they caused the spirit to die when using the tree of knowledge/darkness/corruption.

Were there humans without sin and souls before Adam and Eve? Does sin only count after there is a law to break? Was Adam the first man with a living soul and a law to follow? Would it mean found evolution bones don't mean anything anymore?
 

pittsburghjoe

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a "living soul" ..means a soul with a spirit
 

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Jesus brought the same Free Will choice as the Garden into the Tree of Knowledge perception (our fallen reality).
 

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Jesus Christ reclaimed spiritual authority of this reality with The Cross.
 

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If Jesus took care of original sin, does that mean He reclaimed the authority we gave to the tempter that temporarily became a lowercase god? Is this the core of Christ's victory over satan? Is this place still fallen, but satan is back to his tempter job?
 

pittsburghjoe

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We can't measure quantum waves in flight because this fallen reality can't acknowledge the spiritual. God is Spirit. If physics can't see it ..neither can carnal knowledge. Anything not real to us is virtual and can be infinite. The afterlife is infinite.
 

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We have Free Will to know if God is real or not. That is why there isn't direct proof.
 

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Is the Universal Wave/Universal Observer/God a perfect circle if all possible paths of causality can be used to measure infinite measurements of a perfect circle?
 
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God has given us one tool only to access him. It is the tool of faith.
Faith is a spiritual tool and must be exercised before one can know God.

There are no man-made or scientific tools to prove God. God is a Spirit and only God can provide the way for us to access Him.

God says that if we search for Him with all our heart, we will find Him. In other words He will reveal himself to us. The only sources that we have available to search is the Bible, God's written instruction to man.

The truth is that it is either God's way or the Highway (a colloquial term, I like to use). There is no other way to come to God.
There is a way that seemeth right unto a man but the end thereof is the way of death.
 

pittsburghjoe

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Maybe I didn't word the Free Will thing right:

God doesn't allow direct carnal proof of Himself because He wants Free Will to continue.
 
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We have an unobservable side to Quantum Mechanics because we relinquished our spiritual authority to a carnal tempter.
 
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Maybe I didn't word the Free Will thing right:

God doesn't allow direct carnal proof of Himself because He wants Free Will to continue.
God is not a human, God is a Spirit, therefore there is no carnality with God as the carnal flesh is enmity with God. When God appeared as a burning bush to Moses, it was only for alerting Moses in a dramatic way, that Moses could relate to and not forget the Omnipotence of the One True God.
 
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We have an unobservable side to Quantum Mechanics because we relinquished our spiritual authority to a carnal tempter.
As I stated before we cannot find God in the physical temporal world. This world is created. God is not created. Therefore Quantum Mechanics has nothing to do with God. Quantum Mechanics is an invention of man. Man uses the already created things of this world to invent things through his insatiable imagination. True creation comes from nothing. Invention comes from something already created.

Also the carnal tempter is a created entity. (The Devil)

All things visible and invisible were created by God. John 1 vs 1-5.

Today, we only know God through his Son, Jesus Christ, who was incarnated and became human flesh, in a manner that is off-limits to our natural inclination to dissect things. That is where God made available to us the perfect tool of faith which allows us to access Him through Jesus Christ.

Renewed spirits can not see anything new because it would ruin Free Will for the unbelievers.
I am not sure if you are a renewed spirit. If you are not a renewed spirit then I am not sure where you are getting your information about them from. Probably from some man-written book, which really is a bad idea, because man's only original information of the spirit comes from the book of God, the bible, because God is the creator of the spirit.
A spirit cannot be sensed by man and thus we only know that it exists because God told us so.
 

pittsburghjoe

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The Free Will choice only works if you are free to ignore Christ. God can't allow direct proof of Himself.

The carnal mind only cares about God's physical creation ..not the spiritual ..God is Spirit.
 

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Before Jesus, Jews had to deal with relinquished spiritual authority, that is why their Covenant is of the Flesh. Christians renew our spirit with the Heart of the New Covenant and reclaim authority through Christ.
 
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The Big Bang is generated history to match whatever He designed. That would mean the origin is simply a virtual starting point. It’s why quantum effects work. The core of our reality is virtual including the Vector Field and Quantum Fields ..even TIME is virtual. Oh, and Math.
What in the world are you trying to say here? ARe you suggesting that these things supercede Scripture?

God doesn’t allow carnal minds to find Him.
The Bible disagrees with you.

Acts 17:26,27
26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.
27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.

Romans 1:19-21
19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

This is why man has no excuse. Your view seems to be that the carnal (fleshly, unsaved mind) has an excuse.

That means scientific evidence. We are in a morality test.
Well, Romans 119-21 has given us all the scientific evidence needed to KNOW that God exists and reveals His attributes, so that no one has an excuse for not glorifying Him as God and giving thanks to Him.

Salvation is not by morality, as you seem to be insinuating. We are in a freedom test. Do we believe that God exists and gives eternal life to those who believe in His Son or not? That's a choice.
 

pittsburghjoe

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What in the world are you trying to say here? ARe you suggesting that these things supercede Scripture?


The Bible disagrees with you.

Acts 17:26,27
26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.
27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.

Romans 1:19-21
19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

This is why man has no excuse. Your view seems to be that the carnal (fleshly, unsaved mind) has an excuse.


Well, Romans 119-21 has given us all the scientific evidence needed to KNOW that God exists and reveals His attributes, so that no one has an excuse for not glorifying Him as God and giving thanks to Him.

Salvation is not by morality, as you seem to be insinuating. We are in a freedom test. Do we believe that God exists and gives eternal life to those who believe in His Son or not? That's a choice.
I'm saying God only allows carnal minds to find Him when the person is trying to. If that wasn't the case we wouldn't have Free Will.

What do you think of the post above yours?