In the Bible why is Jesus more forgiving than God if they are one in the same?

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Revelation 22:8-17
Jesus tells John in verse 8 not to worship him, that Jesus is his fellow servant. Because in verses 12-13 it's still the same person speaking that is Jesus.
 
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He did clearly say that he was God. When Thomas said to Him, "My Lord and my God," did you see Jesus rebuke Thomas for calling him God? No, he didn't. Because he addressed Jesus correctly.

You shouldn't even be on this site. The denial of Jesus as not being God, is a major false teaching.

You'll find out different when you stand before him.
We are before him now. Our Emanuel is with us not of us. God is not a man as us. The Son of man resisted worship in respect to His flesh which he said does not profit for nothing other that the demonstration of Him pouring out His Spirit.

When called Lord or Rabbi (one is in heaven in the same way one is our father in heaven) he would direct the attention to faith the unseen and say only God is good.

Luke 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Its the literalist that makes it all about the flesh as if we did walk by sight .

God who remains without mother and father, beginning of spirit life or end thereof . God not seen is simply not a man as us..Never was never could be. It was the temporal one time outward demonstration of the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world. He rested on the seventh day as a result of the work. We walk by the unseen eternal not that seen temporal.Christ rebuked Thomas and called him faithless. He did not say you have seen well.

John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
When the Son of man left he left clear instructions.This is before he returned to the previous glory he had from the foundation of the world.

And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;2Co 5:18
 
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Jesus is the lamb of God. The lamb of God cannot BE God otherwise he isn't lamb of God.
 
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1 John 2:22-24
He is anti Christ who denies the Father and the Son So he is antiChrist who says Jesus is God

2 John verse 3
From God the Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the son of the Father
 

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Jesus is the lamb of God. The lamb of God cannot BE God otherwise he isn't lamb of God.
You have a warped sense of reasoning sir. Why can't he be the Lamb of God, referring to his sacrifice, and still be God.

He's also the bread from heaven

The sheep gate

Emanuel

Son of Man

The Rock

The King of kings and the Lord of lords

Stop peddling these lies, we don't want to hear them.

Etc., Etc. .......
 
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Not lies just the truth. You believe what I use to believe but there's to much in the word that says otherwise. If you search it out you will see it for yourself. Only by true revelation from God will you see what He's shown me.
He didn't raise me from the dead to lie to me.
 

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Revelation 22:8-17
Jesus tells John in verse 8 not to worship him, that Jesus is his fellow servant. Because in verses 12-13 it's still the same person speaking that is Jesus.
That's baloney! It was an angel that John bowed down to who said "do not do it, I am a fellow servant with you."

I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!”

The angel was his fellow servant, not Jesus. Someone has done a number on you. You ought to do a U-turn and get back to the truth, because this is detrimental to your eternal well being.
 

Ahwatukee

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Not lies just the truth. You believe what I use to believe but there's to much in the word that says otherwise. If you search it out you will see it for yourself. Only by true revelation from God will you see what He's shown me.
He didn't raise me from the dead to lie to me.
You haven't been raised from the dead. As I continue to tell you, I have been searching this stuff out before you were born.

This is about the time that I put you on ignore, because you are just a false teacher.
 
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Over 40 years ago God brought me back to life more than just once actually.
Not false just ordained by God as a teacher and prophet.
 
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That revelation verses read it properly, the one who is speaking in verse 8 is the same speaking in verses 12-13. It's impossible to be an angel saying he is alpha and omega.
 
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Jesus is the lamb of God. The lamb of God cannot BE God otherwise he isn't lamb of God.

God is Spirit. He is not a Lamb or a man as us.. The lamb used in parables represents a clean animal used in ceremonial laws to preach the gospel of Christ in respect to the suffering of Christ beforehand .

Clean animals represent Christ's work of atonement . Unclean animals like a Ass must be redeemed by the lamb as a illustration of the unseen work. If not redeemed the neck of the beast that represent natural man is to be broken to show no mercy was given .

Exo 13:13 And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.

Because God is not served by human hands as if he who satisfied all needs needed something from the creation(clay) .

He gives us another parable using a unclean beast(ass) again to represent a unbeliever retraining the madness of that false prophet.

Num 22:28 And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

It reminds me of the garden when that time the father of lies who has no form put his words on the mouth of another creature .Adam and Eve walked by sight and did the will of another voice. God did not want them to experience what it meant to seek after that seen. Experience is not the validator of the things not seen. Prophecy is. This was a sign against them. The same with tongues.
 
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That's right God is not a lamb, only the man Jesus Christ is the lamb of God.
 

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We can forgive sins as well, remember the Lord's prayer.
You can choose not to hold people's sins against them and that's good but you CANNOT atone for that sin and give them right-standing before God.
 
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Therefore know this day, and consider it in your heart, that the Lord Himself is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other.

To you it was shown, that you might know that the Lord Himself is God; there is none other besides Him.

that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Sort it out.....
 
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Exactly right. Jesus Christ is Lord, TO THE GLORY of God the Father.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM. John 8:58 That is Jesus proclaiming himself to be God. The Jewish religious authorities of the time understood that quite well. That is the very reason why they handed him over for execution. If The Lord Jesus hadn't made that claim [to be God] they wouldn't have had a charge against him.
 
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That's right God is not a lamb, only the man Jesus Christ is the lamb of God.
Jesus a word which means savior is an attribute of God. Not attribute of a Lamb as the Christ the anointing Holy Spirit of God. (Jesus the Christ )can't divide God from God. He is one Spirit
 

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John 10:33

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