Is Baptism in water a work or a command? Is it necessary for salvation?
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Look at Peter's sermon closely he is not speaking to the ones in the upper room already filled with The Holy Ghost:
Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
Act 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: (Grammar here suggest unsaved and in need of the message being preached)
Act 2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
Act 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: (Grammar here suggest unsaved and in need of the message being preached)
Act 2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
I know it is kinda splitting hairs, but I would have said: ".. since mans understanding of Theology doesn't necessarily "Prove" anything."
However, if a man can be satisfied about what they know of God or any other Biblical Doctrine, I would have to say they don't know the first thing about the infinite God.
However, if a man can be satisfied about what they know of God or any other Biblical Doctrine, I would have to say they don't know the first thing about the infinite God.
Water Baptism is an ordinance put in place by our Dear Lord. It was even accomplished by Jesus Christ Himself... the God/Man who knew no sin. It was done by Him because He is the example and Chief cornerstone of the assembly He is building.
When we are brought to believe in Christ, then we too are Baptized. As Peter wrote, we do this out of a good conscience. A conscience that has repented of sin and is believing in Christ.
It is not crucial for Salvation because it is an outward expression of what has already happened in the heart. But it is the first opportunity, to make a public proclamation of ones obedience to Christ, as Lord.
When we are brought to believe in Christ, then we too are Baptized. As Peter wrote, we do this out of a good conscience. A conscience that has repented of sin and is believing in Christ.
It is not crucial for Salvation because it is an outward expression of what has already happened in the heart. But it is the first opportunity, to make a public proclamation of ones obedience to Christ, as Lord.
Debating whether or not baptism in necessary for salvation will never end and usually results in negative Spirits and arguing which causes division in the Body of Christ, noone wants that. Here is some Scripture for thought.
The phrase "baptized into his death" in Romans 6:3 refers to the symbolic burial that takes place in water baptism. When we are baptized, we are symbolically being buried with Christ, just as he was buried in the tomb. This burial represents the death of our old selves, our old sinful nature.
The phrase "raised up from the dead" in Romans 6:4 refers to Christ's resurrection, and it also signifies our own spiritual resurrection. Just as Christ rose from the dead, so too we are raised to new life in Christ. This new life is characterized by holiness, righteousness, and service to God.
The phrase "planted together in the likeness of his death" in Romans 6:5 refers to the fact that we are united with Christ in his death and resurrection. This union means that we are dead to sin and alive to God.
The phrase "our old man is crucified with him" in Romans 6:6 refers to the fact that our old sinful nature is crucified with Christ on the cross. This means that we are no longer slaves to sin, but we are free to serve God.
The phrase "he that is dead is freed from sin" in Romans 6:7 means that we are no longer accountable to sin. Sin no longer has power over us because we are dead to it.
The phrase "we shall also live with him" in Romans 6:8 means that we will share in Christ's eternal life. Just as he rose from the dead, so too we will be raised to eternal life with him.
In conclusion, the Scriptures from Romans 6 do indicate water baptism. Water baptism is a symbol of our union with Christ in his death and resurrection. It is a public declaration of our faith in Christ and our commitment to follow him.
The phrase "baptized into his death" in Romans 6:3 refers to the symbolic burial that takes place in water baptism. When we are baptized, we are symbolically being buried with Christ, just as he was buried in the tomb. This burial represents the death of our old selves, our old sinful nature.
The phrase "raised up from the dead" in Romans 6:4 refers to Christ's resurrection, and it also signifies our own spiritual resurrection. Just as Christ rose from the dead, so too we are raised to new life in Christ. This new life is characterized by holiness, righteousness, and service to God.
The phrase "planted together in the likeness of his death" in Romans 6:5 refers to the fact that we are united with Christ in his death and resurrection. This union means that we are dead to sin and alive to God.
The phrase "our old man is crucified with him" in Romans 6:6 refers to the fact that our old sinful nature is crucified with Christ on the cross. This means that we are no longer slaves to sin, but we are free to serve God.
The phrase "he that is dead is freed from sin" in Romans 6:7 means that we are no longer accountable to sin. Sin no longer has power over us because we are dead to it.
The phrase "we shall also live with him" in Romans 6:8 means that we will share in Christ's eternal life. Just as he rose from the dead, so too we will be raised to eternal life with him.
In conclusion, the Scriptures from Romans 6 do indicate water baptism. Water baptism is a symbol of our union with Christ in his death and resurrection. It is a public declaration of our faith in Christ and our commitment to follow him.
I guess that is just one of my flaws. I'm here to try and reach the lost and bring light to those whose understanding is less than mine. At the same time gain more knowledge from those higher in knowledge than me. I think what hurts my heart the most is the hard heartedness of those unwilling to learn. I just want ALL to be saved, I know it's inevitable to not happen according to Scripture. I just want to reach as many as I can. As long as the seed I sow gets at least one soul, my soul rejoices.
What does Mark 16:16 mean?
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But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned.
KJV He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16:16
ESV Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
NIV Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
NASB The one who has believed and has been baptized will be saved; but the one who has not believed will be condemned.
CSB Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
NLT Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned.
KJV He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
BibleRef.com
https://www.bibleref.com › Mark › Mark-16-16
But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned.
KJV He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16:16
ESV Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
NIV Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
NASB The one who has believed and has been baptized will be saved; but the one who has not believed will be condemned.
CSB Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
NLT Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned.
KJV He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Peter, at Pentecost, disagrees with your belief....
38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each one of you be baptized[cb] in the name of Jesus Christ[cc] for[cd] the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.[ce] 39 For the promise[cf] is for you and your children, and for all who are far away, as many as the Lord our God will call to himself.”
there are several more examples, but that one scripture should be enough....
38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each one of you be baptized[cb] in the name of Jesus Christ[cc] for[cd] the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.[ce] 39 For the promise[cf] is for you and your children, and for all who are far away, as many as the Lord our God will call to himself.”
there are several more examples, but that one scripture should be enough....
The church'.. being added to here... is the church at Jerusalem. These are already saved people joining in membership to the church at Jerusalem.
Acts 2:37
This verse describes the reaction of the people to Peter's sermon. They were "cut to the heart" by his words, which means that they were deeply moved and convicted by them. This is a common reaction to the preaching of the gospel, as it exposes people's sin and need for salvation.
The command to Repent, be baptized and receiving of The Holy Ghost was not the those that are saved but to the lost.
Mat_9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Acts 2:37
This verse describes the reaction of the people to Peter's sermon. They were "cut to the heart" by his words, which means that they were deeply moved and convicted by them. This is a common reaction to the preaching of the gospel, as it exposes people's sin and need for salvation.
The command to Repent, be baptized and receiving of The Holy Ghost was not the those that are saved but to the lost.
Mat_9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
The book of John has salvation before baptism all through it. The thief on the cross was not baptised. Romans 10:9-10 describes salvation without baptism. Ephesians 2:8-9 describes salvation without baptism. Plus others.
Therefore the weight of scripture would say that the receiving of the Holy Spirit for each individual in Acts 2:37 has occured before the water baptism.
A whole group of already converted individuals receiving the Holy Spirit is them becoming a NT church. The Holy Spirit becoming their lampstand. 'In the midst'.
That may be what is happening in Acts 2:37
Therefore the weight of scripture would say that the receiving of the Holy Spirit for each individual in Acts 2:37 has occured before the water baptism.
A whole group of already converted individuals receiving the Holy Spirit is them becoming a NT church. The Holy Spirit becoming their lampstand. 'In the midst'.
That may be what is happening in Acts 2:37